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50 Book Challenge 2021 Part Seven

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southeastdweller · 29/08/2021 22:24

Welcome to the seventh thread of the 50 Book Challenge for this year.

The challenge is to read fifty books (or more!) in 2021, though reading fifty isn't mandatory. Any type of book can count, and please try to let us all know your thoughts on what you've read. Could everyone embolden their titles and/or authors as well, please, as it makes the books talked about easier to track?

The first thread of the year is here, the second one here, the third one here, the fourth one here, the fifth one here and the sixth one here.

OP posts:
Sadik · 03/11/2021 21:25

I love Cotillion, Permanent - definitely one of her best.

  1. The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August by Clare North
    A re-read - Harry August lives his life over and over again, each time remembering the events of the previous lives. But then things start to change, and he has to find out why, and stop changes to the future that shouldn't be happening. Good SF thriller, the central idea is somewhat similar to Evelyn Hardcastle, but the whole thing works much better IMO.

  2. A Madness of Angels by Kate Griffin
    Urban fantasy novel by same author as Harry August writing under another name (which I only realised after I'd bought this one).

Sorcerer Matthew Swift wakes up in his house to find other people living there, and with his last memory being his death at the hands of a supernatural creature. He also has strange glowing blue eyes, and is sharing his body with some rather strange angelic creatures. He then discovers that all the other sorcerers he might go to for help have also been killed or fled.

I generally enjoy urban fantasy, but this didn't really come off for me. The system of magic was interesting, but none of the characters really came to life, and the plot was rather predictable. I might give the second one in the series a go though, especially if it comes up cheap on kindle, looking at reviews it seems like things might come together better.

LadybirdDaphne · 04/11/2021 06:29

We did To His Coy Mistress and a couple of other poems about men pressuring women into sex (basically) for GCSE coursework, in Wales about 1997. One of the others was by Yeats but I can only really remember To His Coy Mistress.

Boiledeggandtoast · 04/11/2021 07:54

Thanks for the link Remus, I didn't know Sunny Prestatyn. Brutal.

LadybirdDaphne · 04/11/2021 09:05

I grew up very close to Prestatyn. It wasn’t very sunny, otherwise I think Larkin’s poem was quite accurate.

SapatSea · 04/11/2021 09:07

I also did To His Coy Mistress at my co-ed school and Sons and Lovers by Lawrence, There was a lot of tittering from the boys.

Stokey listened to the Bookish podcast with Doug Stuart (Shuggie Bain). I really enjoyed it. Thanks. Will listen to others when I have time. I have a few more books to add to my list now as a result. I daren't look at the books other interviewees have chosen or it will be huge!

elkiedee · 04/11/2021 10:07

@LadybirdDaphne, was the Yeats his poem to Maud Gonne , with the line "When you are old and grey and full of sleep"? (You'll regret turning me down when you get old and no one fancies you). That in turn is a translation or rip off of a French poem too.

bibliomania · 04/11/2021 10:22

(You'll regret turning me down when you get old and no one fancies you).

Noooooo! I've always had a soft spot for the line "One man loved the pilgrim soul in you". No man has ever appeared to notice or appreciate the pilgrim soul in me, but I live in hope. Tread softly for you tread on my dreams, elkie.

Boiledeggandtoast · 04/11/2021 10:59

@bibliomania

(You'll regret turning me down when you get old and no one fancies you).

Noooooo! I've always had a soft spot for the line "One man loved the pilgrim soul in you". No man has ever appeared to notice or appreciate the pilgrim soul in me, but I live in hope. Tread softly for you tread on my dreams, elkie.

Me too biblio!
bibliomania · 04/11/2021 11:23

They're out there somewhere, Boiled!

Tarahumara · 04/11/2021 11:26

Ah I love both those Yeats poems!

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 04/11/2021 11:56

I love Yeats and my favourite is The Two Trees

Stokey · 04/11/2021 12:33

I love that Yeats poems to and never read it like that. I always thought it was about an old lady remembering passionate love. I had He Wishes For The Heavens Embroidered Cloths as a reading at my wedding.
Also love An Irish Airman Forsees His Death.
"I balanced all, brought all to mind
The years to come seem waste of breath.
A waste of breath the years behind
In balance with this life, this death."

Glad you liked the podcast @SapatSea. It has been very bad for my reading list!

ChessieFL · 04/11/2021 12:56

I studied Yeats for A level and I’m afraid I wasn’t impressed. I just remember lots of gyring in all the poems we studied. I’m not a poetry lover though so that doesn’t help.

bibliomania · 04/11/2021 13:59

I love Sailing to Byzantium.

.....And set upon a golden bough to sing
To Lords and Ladies of Byzantium
Of what is past, and passing, and to come.

Admittedly, Chessie, it does involve a bit of perning in a gyre.

bibliomania · 04/11/2021 13:59

....But so does some of my favourite activities.

JaninaDuszejko · 04/11/2021 15:44

I did not know 'perned in the gyre' and found this interesting article about perne.

bibliomania · 04/11/2021 16:00

That is interesting, Janina.. I also did Gerard Manley Hopkins at school and Yeats' use of obscure/invented words seemed very restrained compare to GMH. I still recite The Windhover to myself on a regular basis.

elkiedee · 04/11/2021 18:13

Then there's Leda and the Swan - though to be fair he didn't invent the old Irish myth on which it's based.

bibliomania · 04/11/2021 18:37

Greek myth - it's Zeus behind that there...beak. Swans in Irish myth don't get involved with that kind of carry-on. They get preached at but St Patrick and turned back into humans (the children is Lir).

bibliomania · 04/11/2021 18:38

by St Patrick even

Sadik · 04/11/2021 19:17

I feel like I'm going to lower the tone here Grin

  1. The Woodchip Handbook by Ben Raskin Assuming that we need from a climate change POV to drastically reduce our meat consumption, that leaves a big question about soil fertility for organic farmers/growers who largely depend on use of animal manures within their rotations for soil fertility (artificial fertilisers having a very high carbon footprint even apart from affects on soil life/ reduction in carbon sink ability of the soil). Basically, how do you do large(r) scale stockfree / vegan organic vegetable and arable production? Woodchip is increasingly looking like part of the answer to this question - especially as planting extra hedging / coppice / agroforestry tree alleys etc to generate the material to chip is beneficial in itself. This book is a good survey of the landscape, so to speak, including recent research on direct use of small branch (ramial) woodchip without composting, carbon in soils, and other uses including mulching, mushroom production etc. Probably mostly useful to farmers, but written also to be relevant to home gardeners.
RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 04/11/2021 19:28

@ChessieFL

I studied Yeats for A level and I’m afraid I wasn’t impressed. I just remember lots of gyring in all the poems we studied. I’m not a poetry lover though so that doesn’t help.
I LOVE the gyring! Incredible poem.
RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 04/11/2021 19:29

Ah, I see there's more than one gyring poem. The one I love is The Second Coming (which isn't a 'sexy' poem, despite what the title might suggest).

VikingNorthUtsire · 04/11/2021 19:43

God, that Larkin poem is brutal isn't it? Have to say I love Donne despite him being a bit of a sleaze. I don't mind a good sexy poem.

Elkie thank you for the SA recommendations. I had A Long Way from Verona on my shelf when i was younger (12?) and remember finding it really quite odd although bits of it have really stayed with me (the awful house party and that terrible dress). I would like to go back and have another read.

I found a blog which quotes the Hardy bit - was your interview a bit like this, Sap?

I had just reached the part when [spoilers - terrible thing that happens] when a hand came down on to the book from out of the shadows beyond the reading lamp, and it was Mrs. Baxter. ‘Jessica!’ she said, ‘I’d no idea you were still here. The buzzer went ten minutes ago. Whatever are you reading? It must be very exciting.’ She picked Jude up and held it near her spectacles for a moment, twisting the lamp upwards so that she could see. She gave the most frightful sort of yelp after a minute and nearly dropped it. ‘Jess, dear!’ she cried. ‘Whatever on earth! What is this terrible book?’ I said it was an English Classic. ‘It must be removed from the library,’ she said. ‘It’s a most horrible book. What would your father say? Oh, Jessica, you mustn’t read such a horrible book!’

I said it was by Thomas Hardy.

‘I don’t care if it is by William Shakespeare, you are NOT to read it. I will speak to the librarian to have it taken off the shelves.’ And I think she must have done, because it’s certainly not there now.

I read LOTF a couple of years ago when DS was studying it for GCSE. I thought it was terrific - so compact and yet so terrifying. The tension in the final chapters is just brilliant, and awful.

81. People Like Her, Ellery Lloyd

Domestic-noir thriller about a instagram mum with a follower who gets rather too interested in her family. I picked this up as a palate cleansing easy read after the Nadine Gordimer (which was quite challenging) but was pleasantly surprised to find it was better than I was expecting.

The thriller plot is rather silly and quite nasty (it certainly ends up in a much darker conclusion that I had expected - be warned) but if you disregard that, this is quite a witty depiction of a family living their life online, with some unexpectedly thoughtful pondering on the morals of making your living from it. The bits sending up the instamums are very funny too.

82. An Aacademic Question, Barbara Pym

I have not read any Pym until now. This is a bit of an odd one, written in the early 70s but only published in 1986, some years after her death. According to Wikipedia "she was ultimately dissatisfied with the novel. She put it aside and never returned to revise the work". I picked it up from a charity book shelf for 25p - in retrospect I don't think it was the best place to start with this author.

This is an English campus novel about the unfulfilled wife of a professor at a provincial university. It's funny and smart, sometimes searingly sharp and rather ruthless. The plot revolves around a McGuffin, which is to say an object which is essential to keeping the characters moving but ultimately amounts to very little. The real focus is the characters' relationships, and the sexual, racial and class politics which bubble away under the surface. It's hard to tell how much of the awkward and sometimes unpleasant aspects of these themes are down to the fact that the book is 50 years behind the times, and how much is deliberately introduced by Pym. You can tell from the awful way that she writes about parenting that she is certainly having some fun at the expense of the characters, or the reader, or both.

noodlezoodle · 04/11/2021 20:57

Loving all the Yeats. I have to credit Jilly Cooper with making me love Yeats (and lots of others) as Declan O'Hara is forever declaiming poetry in Rivals.

She also published a poetry anthology that I loved but probably donated many years ago. I wish I still had it, I remember it as being a great collection for people that don't know anything about poetry, e.g. me!