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'Little Dorrit' readalong

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Piggywaspushed · 07/04/2021 12:36

Hello and welcome to our next proposed Dickensalong after the success of our previous readalongs!

On our previous thread I suggested our first month as commencing in April and convening on June 1st to discuss the first instalment : gives everyone time to get copies and get settled down.

Everyone is welcome! We always start with about 10 people and end up with about 5...

Instalments I have chosen follow Dickens' shorter 19 instalments (which were all exactly the same number of pages originally - that must have taken considerable planning and editing!) but come in pairs or trios:-
The novel comprises only two Books, which forces a break at a particular point, too.

May 2021 - Book One , Chapters 1-11
June - Chapters 12-18
July - Chapters 19-25
August - Chapters 26- 36
September - Book Two Chapters 1-11
October - Chapters 12-18
November - Chapters 19-26
December - Chapters 27 - 34

So finished by 2022. I think that suits reading speed of most.

Happy Reading!

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Piggywaspushed · 06/12/2021 16:03

That's definitely a bonus!

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InTheCludgie · 06/12/2021 18:37

Hi all, wanted to say I'm still here! Real life got in the way and now I'm way behind on my reading but will catch up. I'm up for a Hard Times readalong also.

IsFuzzyBeagMise · 06/12/2021 18:40

@InTheCludgie

Hi all, wanted to say I'm still here! Real life got in the way and now I'm way behind on my reading but will catch up. I'm up for a Hard Times readalong also.
Good to hear from you! We're nearly at the finish line.
Piggywaspushed · 06/12/2021 19:07

Hi cludgie. Glad you are still here with us!

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ChessieFL · 23/12/2021 14:02

I’ve just read today that the Flora character was based on Dickens’ first love Maria Beadnell - apparently he met her again in middle age and was appalled how she had changed so he immortalised her as Flora.

IsFuzzyBeagMise · 23/12/2021 18:11

Really Grin she annoyed me no end, the way she rambled on and on, but she's a great character; she's memorable.

Piggyinblankets · 28/12/2021 09:40

Dickens could be such an arse!

I am currently sorting out Hard Times instalments. It is short and in 3 'books' but was serialised in 20 instalments which seems rather bitty!

Think I shall go for maybe about 4 or 5? Then it'll be a shorter readalong but not too chunky each time.

Piggywaspushed · 28/12/2021 09:55

Next readalong (having reverted to normal name so it isn't Christmas Piggy all year round!)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/what_were_reading/4437561-Hard-Times-readalong-2022

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IsFuzzyBeagMise · 28/12/2021 12:37

Great, Piggy. That sounds good.
I'm looking forward to a new challenge!

Piggywaspushed · 31/12/2021 10:09

I have finished and written my review. Will watch Katie Lumsden later.

Are we all OK to convene tomorrow or do folk want to do it today, if everyone is finished?

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Piggywaspushed · 31/12/2021 10:48

Here is Katie for those who are ready:

She really really loves it.

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IsFuzzyBeagMise · 31/12/2021 10:49

I finished it today. I'm around, whatever suits!

I really enjoyed the final installment.

Piggywaspushed · 31/12/2021 10:51

I shall keep my powder dry for a while and see if anyone else appears!

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IsFuzzyBeagMise · 31/12/2021 10:55

Sure Grin

ChessieFL · 31/12/2021 11:37

I finished it in early Dec so happy to chat whenever!

Piggywaspushed · 31/12/2021 11:59

OK, am tagging @DesdamonasHandkerchief @InTheCludgie to see if they are OK with that!

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Piggywaspushed · 31/12/2021 12:00

Oh , and at @LadybirdDaphne

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DesdamonasHandkerchief · 31/12/2021 12:57

Yes I was very naughty and finished in November!

InTheCludgie · 31/12/2021 13:32

I've not finished by a long shot so go ahead and discuss Grin

Piggywaspushed · 31/12/2021 13:48

OK, well I will dive in and post my thoughts! This instalment was very long so I am probably forgetting the beginning bit which might even have included the surprise deaths. Poor Frederick. Sad

This is what I wrote yesterday:

Finished!

And what an interesting conclusion.

May I just point posters towards the excellent Wordsworth introduction by Peter Preston, if this is the edition you have, which articulates so well many of the themes and ideas of the novel and deals particularly thought provokingly with the frustrating plot of Miss Wade and Tattycoram, which I know has bothered so many of us.

It also points out the ‘Brtiannia’ figures in the novel (which I had not noticed, as illustrated satirically on the original frontispiece. Of particular note is Mrs Clennam, (nearly)always seated and presiding over her bitter world and, of course Messrs Merdle and Casby – and even Affery with her toasting fork! Here ,we also focus on grime and cleanliness , with the most morally corrupt character, Merdle, dying in a bath and Blandois reduced ( so dramatically!) to ashes. The grime of England – metaphorical and literal, is often pointed out. And what was with all the parentless children and twins?

The marriage of Little Dorrit and Arthur was inevitable. Orwell described Dickens’ endings as inevitably featuring a happy family, preferably their children, and a gravestone marking those lost on the way. This ending is definitely darker and more ambiguous. Meagles is lovable but no simple Mr Brownlow and the Circumlocution office still reigns – as Ferdinand warns :’the next man who has as large a capacity and as genuine a taste for swindling will succeed as well’. Doyce basically has to go abroad to be appreciated and corruption has only partly been challenged (sound familiar!?!)

I was so annoyed that Little Dorrit did not want to be Amy but I get it symbolically. She is a grown woman who has been infantilised but is strikingly mature , where Maggy is a physically grown woman frozen in childhood.
Anyway, I did find some rather lovely bits. First of all, I loved Miss Wade :
‘I thought you knew’, she interrupted with a smile, ‘that my good nature is not to be calculated upon.’ I may use that next time someone appeals to my ‘good nature’!

I loved John’s final ‘pillow inscription’ but before this did love the moment of realisation. What he (although authorial voice is interesting here - it could also be Dickens really, Or Arthur) thinks about LD is actually rather beautiful :
… she was its vanishing point. Everything in its perspective led to her innocent figure. He had travelled thousands of miles towards it ;… it was the centre of the interest of his life; it was the termination of everything that was good and pleasant in it; beyond there was nothing but mere waste , and darkened sky.’ Sob

This is the part of the book that says
Little Dorrit. Little Dorrit. Again, for hours. Always Little Dorrit
Lovely. And seems to capture the perspective of both Arthur and John.

So, John, ‘for the sake of the loved one’ , ‘became magnanimous’ . Dear blessed John! Silly Dickens to give the finest romantic prose to John, and not Arthur.

I enjoyed the novel well enough but did find the plots convoluted and the cavalcade of characters a bit much (Rugg? Tip? Meagles and Merdles? Plornishes? Nandy?) . I thought the themes of money, greed and decay were well done. Think I preferred it to Our Mutual Friend, but would put it well behind Bleak House for atmospheric claustrophobia and cutting edge style, and David Copperfield, which I just thought was joyous.

I ahve lsitened to Katie since and founfd what she said about Amy and her maturity and fight , her independence compared to earlier Dickens' women interesting, although I am not sure I entirely agree. She also has insightful comments about the characterisation of Arthur.

Thank you all for joining me on this readalong and keeping me company!

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JanglyBeads · 31/12/2021 14:25

(Sorry a occasional lurker here!)

This is really worth a listen although doesn't seem to be available at the moment, so I don't know if there's ANY way of doing that:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001sxq

A modern day version of LD, involving high rise flats and evil landladies. It really captures the main characters.

IsFuzzyBeagMise · 31/12/2021 14:35

Fantastic review, Piggy!! Well done.

I have that edition and found the introduction very interesting in the discussion of themes and imagery. It tied it all together brilliantly.

I loved the description of Mrs Clennam's long, frantic, tortuous walk to the Marshalsea and the ensuing scene between Mrs Clennam and Little Dorrit. Retribution and vengeance versus mercy and forgiveness. And goodness won.

It was no surprise that Little Dorrit renounced her inheritance and the trappings of money. She was always above it. Her character was the most consistent in the book, I thought. A walking saint, completely selfless and generous of spirit. Arthur by comparison, took a long time to mature and see what was in front of his nose (Amy Dorrit). He had a horrible childhood though, with that woman. Maybe he was emotionally stunted. I felt that the whole thing was rather sad. Mrs Clennam blighted all their lives with her narrow-minded religiosity.

I loved that Rigaud went up in blazes. Good riddance!

Flintwich's twin was an unexpected twist. Purely a plot contrivance. I really laughed at Flintwich's new Dutch name...Flyntevynge. I loved Dickens' ear for languages.

Poor Tattycoram returning to the Meagles. I felt she didn't have any choice though. She had to get away from Miss Wade.

On the honour's list; Mr. Meagles, Pancks, Doyce, Cavalletto, Frederick Dorrit, John Chivery, Flora, Affery.

People who should spend time in the Marshalsea; Casby, Flintwinch, Henry Gowan, Miss Wade, all the Barnacles.

Overall, I enjoyed the book and I'm glad I read it.
Thank you all for your company during the past few months! On to the next challenge!

ChessieFL · 31/12/2021 16:31

Great review Piggy. I don’t have that edition so missed some of the things pointed out in the introduction.

Was anyone else expecting to find out that Arthur’s real mother was one of the book’s female characters? As soon as it said that Mrs Clennam wasn’t his real mum I was trying to work out who would be. Also, what did happen to the money that should have gone to Frederick Dorris in the will?

I loved the showdown between Pancks and Casby where P cut C’s hair off! Very funny.

Piggywaspushed · 31/12/2021 17:10

Yes, I was expecting that! I found the reveal confusing and had to resort to Shmoop.

The Casby humiliation was gratifying!

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IsFuzzyBeagMise · 31/12/2021 17:44

I read through the the final chapters twice to make sure I understood it. I've just checked out Wikipedia to see if I have actually grasped it.

So, Arthur's wealthy uncle felt remorseful about banishing Arthur's biological mother and left her a bequest and also gave a bequest to her patron, Frederick Dorrit, who took her in. This money was left to Amy Dorrit as he had no children and it was stipulated to be given to his youngest niece.

Apparently, Flintwinch's twin took in Arthur's mother. Also, Wikipedia suggests that Rigaud murdered the twin for the papers (I didn't get that at all! Did anyone else?!)

Yes. There was a lot going on and the reveal was slightly disappointing as Arthur's mother was not a character in the story. So, Amy Dorrit never disclosed the truth about his mother to Arthur, I don't think. At the close of the story, Mrs Clennam had a stroke, was paralyzed and lived for more three years. Amy promised to keep it a secret while she was alive.

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