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50 Book Challenge 2020 Part Five

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southeastdweller · 07/05/2020 12:21

Welcome to the fifth thread of the 50 Book Challenge for this year.

The challenge is to read fifty books (or more!) in 2020, though reading fifty isn't mandatory. Any type of book can count, it's not too late to join, and please try to let us all know your thoughts on what you've read.

The first thread of the year is here, the second one here, the third one here and the fourth one here.

How're you getting on so far?

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RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 22/05/2020 12:28

Thanks, Meg. I've heard about this but not read. Will investigate!

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 22/05/2020 12:29

I love that his pen name is derived from a list of failures. :)

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 22/05/2020 12:59

Heads Up :

Little Fires Everywhere the series is on Prime as of today.

PepeLePew · 22/05/2020 14:17

tara, as far as Hot Milk goes I have encountered enough people who had the same response as you and I did to assert with confidence that it isn’t us being too stupid to understand it! I would locate responsibility somewhere much closer to the author.

TimeforaGandT · 22/05/2020 14:18

Slightly diverted from Hemingway to read:

31. Enquiry - Dick Francis

Jockey and trainer are banned for losing races deliberately - but they didn’t and all the evidence was fabricated. So, who wanted them banned and fabricated the evidence and why? A good one.

Back to Hemingway....probably.....

TimeforaGandT · 22/05/2020 14:20

I keep wondering if I should read Normal People as I am watching the TV series - but I think Bookwitch has helped me on this...

KeithLeMonde · 22/05/2020 15:10

Spieluhr thank you for the Sarah Moss heads-up! I find her a genuinely interesting writer, so am looking forward to hearing what she says about Iceland - fits in so well with the things she writes about, the layering of ancient and modern, the important of landscape on our psyche, the complex nature of gender roles and relationships between men and women.

33. Uncanny Valley, Anna Wiener

Loved this. As the book opens, Wiener is young and frustrated, working in a poorly paid job in the New York publishing industry. Via a short-lived role at a book-sharing app, she finds herself catapulted into the heart of Silicon Valley at its most hubristic. The scandals, the exposes are just bubbling under at this point, and Wiener, who is proud of her disinterest in tech, is unaware of the ramifications of the work being done by the data analytics company she works for. She describes their world in lively prose, the open plan offices full of squishy furniture and techy toys, the teams who communicate mainly by emoji in chat rooms, the high end San Francisco restaurants whose customers dress in technical outdoor wear as though they were about to hike up a glacier. Wiener's viewpoint makes the book both accessible and fascinating - she obviously knew nothing about this world before she joined it, and she looks at it all with interest and some cynicism, but equally she comes to it without prejudice and, at least at first, enjoys working with clever ambitious people in technology that is genuinely shaping the world.

Gradually, the shine comes off - she starts to question both the companies themselves and the ethics of their leaders. Her portrait of the drip-drip of patronising, sexist "micro-aggressions" is painfully perfect - if you've worked in that world, you will know how it feels to hear the same joke at your expense or the same awkwardly worded misconceptions about what you bring to the team, all made by people who you know mean well. You can rarely put your finger on an occasion when someone has disrespected you but two years later you look around to find that all of the young men who started with you in the company seem to be leading teams and moving up the ladder while somehow you have been encouraged sideways into a less technical customer-facing role with no management potential.

^The Customer Success team was small: just me and a former account manager, a newly minted MBA who dressed in button-down shirts and polished leather brogues. A manager told me that he expected the MBA and I would make a great team. I agreed—I liked the MBA and his dry, cynical humor. “He’s strategic,” the manager said, beaming. “And you love our customers.”^

I'd read a couple of articles based on this book which hadn't particularly interested me, to the point where I almost missed out on reading the book. It's only in the long form that you properly understand the arc, Wiener's growing understanding of the tech culture, her love-hate relationship with it. I couldn't put this down (although I did think the ending was a bit limp - I guess its a memoir and real life doesn't often have a big cathartic ending scene).

34. Not that Kind of Girl, Lena Dunham

I didn't know much about Dunham before reading this book. I know she's written and starred in award-winning TV but I haven't seen any of it so I came to this with no preconceptions.

Impressions:

  • she can write
  • she's incredibly self-obsessed
  • she's very talented at capturing what it's like to be young
  • sometimes she writes about times when she knows she's being a dick, and other times she writes about herself being a dick but I don't know whether she knows

I found her more annoying than likeable and I don't think that was an age thing, although if I were younger I might forgive her annoyingness more because I identified with her. The chapter on the older men who demand attention from young women in Hollywood was excellent, so astutely written and subtle.

KeithLeMonde · 22/05/2020 15:28

I've just found a great Goodreads review which sums up my feelings about the Lena Dunham book and which I enjoyed reading more than I enjoyed the book. An excerpt:

^Maybe she's too cool to share the excitement and the very real, admirable and hard work behind having her own show, but she is not too cool to share with you what she ate for lunch literally every day for several days in a row in excruciating detail. Good lord. Why.^

^And I guess that's the rub with Lena Dunham, and maybe the problem with the over-sharers of the world being granted autobiographies. So often, I just don't get why these things are thought or said aloud or why I take the time to read them, hoping for something with substance.^

Tarahumara · 22/05/2020 15:43

Thanks for the reassurance Pepe Smile

Terpsichore · 22/05/2020 16:22

she's incredibly self-obsessed
she's very talented at capturing what it's like to be young
sometimes she writes about times when she knows she's being a dick, and other times she writes about herself being a dick but I don't know whether she knows

Keith, all of the above were very evident in her self-penned TV show, Girls.

Sadik · 22/05/2020 17:35

Thanks for your review of Uncanny Valley Keith - I bought it on deal having read about it in the paper, but I was finding it really annoying and switched out to other things.

I felt she came across as rather superior & tending to look down on the techies (as opposed to 'cultured' publishing people) and actually pretty much everyone she describes on the West coast. I also couldn't help wondering (a) had she not read Coupland's Microserfs?? - and (b) could she really, truly be that ignorant about tech companies while wanting to work in one - but maybe she's just too young. Perhaps I'll give it another go!

KeithLeMonde · 22/05/2020 19:20

Oh that's interesting, Sadik. I thought she was quite open to being impressed by the tech companies but maybe didn't have the knowledge to properly understand why and how what they were doing was clever. She was pretty snarky about the people, but then I thought she was pretty snarky about people in Brooklyn too.

Do you know, I haven't read Microserfs. At least I don't think I have.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 22/05/2020 19:31

Oh Christ, I can't deal with Coupland

Bores me to tears

Sadik · 22/05/2020 19:57

I think maybe Microserfs was only a good read in the 90s!

KeithLeMonde · 22/05/2020 19:59

I feel like I must have read at least one of his back in the day but if I did then it wasn't memorable enough for me to know which one.

KeithLeMonde · 22/05/2020 20:02

I love Anna Wiener for describing the hot tub at a party as a "sous vide bath of genitalia”.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 22/05/2020 20:13

I used to think that one day Coupland would write an utterly perfect novel. Unfortunately, he got worse rather than better.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 22/05/2020 22:50
  1. The Memory Of Love by Aminatta Forma.

Like Derby Day this has been looking at me on my Kindle since 2011, and I read it more as an effort to clear it than anything else.

In Sierra Leone, a dying man reflects on his past and on love. We also get the narratives of two young doctors connected to him.

Books set in African nations are one of my sweet spots as a reader, I often seek them out, as a window to another world.

This though, I think I was supposed to find it incredibly profound, instead I found it incredibly, almost mindnumbingly dull.

One of my worst this year along with Gift Of Fear and Normal People

I'm glad it can stop silently rebuking me from my Kindle Library though Grin

YounghillKang · 22/05/2020 23:27

Bookwitch did you see Jessa Crispin's article about Normal People? She was mostly responding to the adaptation but think you might enjoy it.
Normal People is little more than a gutless soap opera for millennials
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/05/sally-rooney-normal-people-hulu-bbc-soap-opera

YounghillKang · 22/05/2020 23:30

Crossposted with Eine sounds like you'd appreciate Crispin's perspective too!

I've never read anything by Lena Dunham, but did watch Girls through to the bitter end. Dunham is quite a character! Was surprised by how 'conservative' the ending of the series turned out to be.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 23/05/2020 00:12

Around the time of her autobiography being published there were some really dodgy stories that I don't remember the specifics of about Lena Dunham. However, in Ronan Farrow's Catch And Kill he makes a point of saying that he knew for a fact she had repeatedly warned people on the Clinton campaign that Harvey Weinstein was a rapist and was not heeded.

BookWitch · 23/05/2020 08:20

@YounghillKang thanks for that link.
I think I've decided my life is too short for the TV drama. I will try Little Fires Everywhere on Prime though, I enjoyed that book a few years ago.

Terpsichore · 23/05/2020 09:28

I think there are more than a few crossover points between what Lena Dunham does and Sally Rooney's novels...hardly surprising, I suppose, as they're similar in age (34 and 29). The abusive relationship Marianne gets into reminds me of the truly horrible, humiliating treatment Dunham's character accepted uncomplainingly from her awful boyfriend in Girls, for example.

But although, like Younghill, I watched every single episode of Girls (and to be fair, thought it was very well done), I did so feeling profoundly thankful that I'm not in my 20s and having to navigate a world that seemed eye-poppingly alien at times.

highlandcoo · 23/05/2020 11:48

Fortuna I really appreciate the Hay Festival heads-up. Although I'm on their mailing list, somehow the information didn't reach me.

About to watch Maggie O'Farrell today (everyone seems to have read her books except me and I do like the sound of Hamnet) and have booked Hilary Mantel, Anne Enright, Halle Rubenhold and Jessie Burton as well as some political and economics events.

Thank you Smile

FortunaMajor · 23/05/2020 14:00

Glad you've been able to book some sessions. I imagine we're in a lot of the same ones. Going to Hay for the festival is one of my dreams but the past few years it simply hasn't been possible. I've really been enjoying it so far. I listened to the Gloria Steinem / Laura Bates chat yesterday and dug out Everyday Sexism for a reread which I finished this morning. I thought the Maggie O'Farrell session was fantastic. Stephen Fry was phenomenal last night speaking about Troy the next in his series and while I feel largely Troyed out at the moment it got me really enthusiastic, only got to wait until the end of October for it...