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how come nobody has bought Rowling's new book?

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notactuallyme · 27/09/2012 21:46

went into town at 4pm after work, thinking 'shame, they'll all be gone' only to find that every shop had them discounted - a tenner in Waterstones! HMV had piles of them and I gave in and bought one in Tescos for £9 - what happened there then?

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AppleCrumbleAndFish · 27/09/2012 23:14

Again, you must be exhausted with all that research.

FreddieMercurysBolero · 27/09/2012 23:16

Jesus LeMarchand, bitchy and snobbish much? I won't be buying the book but will probably get it off my sister when she's finished it. I liked Harry Potter, I also liked DWJ. Each to their own I suppose.

livealoha · 27/09/2012 23:16

No Coco, the films were a hit because the books were so popular

cocolepew · 27/09/2012 23:18

No, I'm right Grin

LemarchandsBox · 27/09/2012 23:18

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FreddieMercurysBolero · 27/09/2012 23:20

Hmmm I'll disagree with you on the film thing Coco, but wholeheartedly agree with you on the Mr. Men books. What a pile of wank they are, luckily DS is too young to realise that I'm making them up as I read them to him:)

LemarchandsBox · 27/09/2012 23:21

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imperialstateknickers · 27/09/2012 23:29

The first three HP books were excellent, I demolished them and couldn't wait for ddtwins to be old enough to enjoy them. The Goblet of Fire was unreadable. I mean that.... I tried three times and couldn't get past page 100. Turgid, uninterested in characters - it was like trying to get through Women In Love (when it was a set text) all over again. YY to whoever said she needed serious editing, me and our local vicar (!) agreed this one about five years ago.

FreddieMercurysBolero · 27/09/2012 23:30

That's fine, each to their own. I just think it was unnesscessary to make assumptions and be condescending to another poster on the basis of that.

Corygal · 27/09/2012 23:40

Anticipating an irresistible read in the vein of Harry-heroin, I snatched my copy at 5pm from the panting Amazon man as he came up the path. I am now on Mumsnet.

That is my review.

GrimmaTheNome · 27/09/2012 23:55

Whoever buys hardbacks - even 'discounted' to £9? I've not even read a review of JKs latest, but if I do get it, it'll be a paperback and probably not till they're discounted too.

I don't even buy Pratchett in hardback, though waiting for the paperback to come out later bugs me a bit.

notactuallyme · 28/09/2012 10:35

Grimma - reviews weren't allowed! Thats why I was so surprised to see piles of the things left; completely different to all the mania over harry potter books, and yet quite a lot of hype around it.

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GrimmaTheNome · 28/09/2012 11:22

Reviews weren't allowed? Confused do you mean prior to public release there were none? (presumably there's no way to prevent review now). How extremely silly of JK and/or her publishers. Even fewer people will shell out for a hardback of an unreviewed book.

SuzySheepSmellsNice · 28/09/2012 12:44

Thanks Freddie :)

MooncupGoddess · 28/09/2012 13:25

It's all about the hype, Grimma. Reviewers were biked their copies on Wednesday and then had to file reviews for the Thursday newspapers to tie in with publication and release date.

To be fair to JK Rowling, from the reviews I've read, the new book, while not a masterpiece, sounds considerably better than one might expect from the rather pedestrian (albeit with a few flashes of genius) HP series. And I admire her for doing something totally different that will alienate wizard-lovers.

DuchessofMalfi · 28/09/2012 13:54

It's got to be price that's putting people off. It's £10 in Asda - I could get 10 kindle daily deals for that price Wink.

I had a flick through a copy this morning and, whilst I was there, two other people picked up copies. One person put it back after flicking through (like I did) and the other put their copy in their trolley, took it for a short walk and then brought it back (second thoughts presumably) :o

NicknameTaken · 28/09/2012 14:33

I've reserved a copy at the library. Could be a while before it's my turn.

I would strongly defend the HP books, and not because of the films. The prose is functional (nothing wrong with that), the plotting and the creativity are strong. I think the series peaked at Prisoner of Azkhaban, but I still found the rest compulsive reading (although I haven't felt a strong desire to re-read).

DuchessofMalfi · 28/09/2012 14:39

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the 72 people ahead of me on the waiting list at the library are fast readers :o.

I read and liked the Harry Potter series and am looking forward to my DC being old enough to read them (DD's nearly there).

I'm curious to know whether she really can write for adults. Looking forward to reading it, eventually.

donburi · 28/09/2012 17:57

I would read it - if it came as a newspaper collect-coupons freebie. 'I'm still Jo from the block". I think Liz Jones may like it?

FreddieMercurysBolero · 28/09/2012 19:01

No problems Suzy:)

MissWooWoo · 28/09/2012 19:10

there must be someone on mumsnet who's read it, cone on! what's it like?

never read a HP and not likely to read this new one either I'm just being nosey

notactuallyme · 28/09/2012 19:51

I shall start it tonight and update...

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newpup · 28/09/2012 20:01

Ordered it and waiting for it to arrive. I read the first two HP books and thought they were fun and quite good but not amazing. I bought the new book because the idea sounded interesting and I wanted to see how her 'adult' fiction is.

sieglinde · 29/09/2012 08:08

I read the free Kindle sample of TCV and will not be reading on. The writing is absolutely awful. If possible, worse than 50 Shades. Clunky, pretentious and barely grammatical.

Like many here, I loved the first 3 HPs, but from then on I fell out of love because the writing declined, or the editors didn't dare to do their jobs. Good luck to all who enjoy the new book; chacun a son gout.

Corygal · 29/09/2012 09:52

I've finished it now, thanks to an appalling cold that sent me to bed with the cat.

It's not very good - my first instinct is that it wouldn't have made it into print without the author's name on the front. I can't detail without outing myself, but all I can say is that when the main selling point of a book is the author's name, the least one can do for the paying public is hire someone who can write, ie someone else, to create the text. That hasn't happened - that's the first instance I can think of in book publishing, too, except Iris Murdoch's last book that was famously written when she had Alzheimers.

The story is, as everyone knows, about a local council election and its effect on various families in Smalltown Village, West Countrrreee.

The council election raises temperatures all round but it's not much to with the the real theme of the book, bad parents - from the adopted kid who wasn't wanted by dad to the beaten sons of maniac above to the local crack whore's flailing and terrified chaos victims.

But first, I have to point out that the only outstanding feature of the book is that it's full of typos and reps, noticeable even to someone like me who is used to overlooking these things in raw typescripts. They stick out so much they're irritating and confusing - one character is only ever introduced as "Fat, plain...", but when you get to page 500 you kind of know that already. And think author is introducing a new character, proudly using two of the ten adjectives she knows.

(Thinks JKR must be hyper-stroppy and tough - no editor lets that out unless they're terrorised. See below for the worst non-edited slip, the one that blows the plot out of the water.)

None of the characters is very nice. So there's no empathy or drive to get to the end of the book. They represent one fault each, and each fault is just repeated stoutly every 50 pp through all 500 pages. There's no insight or development into say, the deli owner's smalltown snobbery, or the local maniac's wife beating. All the snobbery is really out of date 70s-style, too: skirts jeered at for being above the knee, etc, other skirts look 'like hessian'.

The non-ghastly characters are there as props - you get nothing, say, of the beaten wife's interior monologue. Or how Ms Fat, Plain feels about not being Miss World. The 'social comment' JKR makes is limited to 'wife beating is bad'- You don't say.

What gets me is that all the 'children' in the book, while universal victims, are not very nice themselves and have zero insight into what's going on around them. OK, victims aren't always nice people, and that's fine, but most abused children don't turn nasty - mostly because they're too frightened. Some cope, some get out, and some flail silently. Some survive unscathed, which is what I have always found the most interesting, but this possibility is not allowed.

The social comment, which is like being smacked over the head with a hammer, is beyond obvious. And FACTUALLY INCORRECT. The plotline of crack whore's teen DD Krystal trying to get pregnant so she can get a flat, while about the only character-driven development in all 500pp, couldn't happen in today's England. She would have known all she would get is a fostering with baby, and we are told she hated being fostered. The book is supposed to be about today's England.

I did enjoy the crack whore house of heroin strand, felt mildly illuminated with Krystal's story and very sorry for her. Krystal the Krack Khaos Kid was the only mildly empathetic character - nothing you couldn't have got from Dispatches on C4 in 5 min tho'.

All in all, a curiosity piece - you won't be enlightened or entertained. But you will hope the book makes enough money to subsidise a state of the nation novel set in this century without howlers.