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Low Carb Bootcamp - Week 12 (but Newbies always welcome!)

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BIWItheBold · 02/07/2012 08:04

Wow! Three months almost completed. I'm amazed what everyone has achieved, and really impressed how many people are still here!

They say it takes 100 days to make something a habit, and by the end of this week we will pretty much have reached that. Hopefully eating this way will have become much more 'normal' for us all now.

As requested, I have change the title of the thread, so that others interested in low carbing can find us more easily. I will also re-post the rules and the list of allowed veg:

The Carnivore Rules

1.Eat three, proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat helps you to burn fat. Honestly! Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food ?
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

*5.Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited). It can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol
If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8.No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada.

9.No nuts/seeds
Whilst these are really good to snack on later - it can be too easy to start snacking on these - and before you know it, all your carbs have gone on nuts. Seriously - in bootcamp - don't do it to yourself.

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Allowed veg

Don?t eat any veg unless it?s on this list, and try and focus on eating those that are under 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

Veggie Rules

Only slightly adapted from BIWI's but best to take notice of the changes if you're vegetarian.

1.Eat three, proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural ingredients as the basis for your meals. Vegetarian Sausages and Burgers are ok in small quantities, but check the carb count as some can be very high. Avoid foods marketed as 'Low Carb' such as Atkins Daybreak Bars, etc.

3.Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat helps you to burn fat. Honestly! Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating plenty of vegetables and salads with your food ?
This is where most of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited). It can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol
If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8.No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada.

9.Beware of Nuts and Seeds.
Nuts are a very good way to include more fat and protein in your diet, however some are very high carb (e.g. Cashews). Stick to small amounts of Almonds, Brazil Nuts, Dried Coconut, Walnuts, Seeds and Peanut Butter, but check the ingredients, many supermarket brands have sugar added.

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

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BIWItheBold · 03/07/2012 14:58

Water, water, water ... Grin

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mummyduff · 03/07/2012 15:09

MNP I do hope DS is on the mend? make sure you try and get some well earned restSmile

I would not worry about the last few days food wise, I'm sure you will be back on track once DS is better.

x x x

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teaandthorazine · 03/07/2012 15:41

MNP - how stressful, hope ds is doing better now. I think you can definitely be forgiven a tumble off the wagon for that!

Have just had a quick lurk on another thread - there is lots of talk of 'double zumba' and egg-white omelettes... god I love this WOE Wink]

Having said that, I've not eaten much more than a few almonds today (work is conspiring against proper meals). But dinner is chicken breasts with cheese and pancetta and mushrooms, probably with broccoli and green beans. YUM!

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sybilfaulty · 03/07/2012 16:06

Am really craving sweet stuff today. Went to a coffee thing this am and was so tempted by the cakes and biscuits. Also at school pick up. Have resisted so far but hard. Hey ho.

MNP, so sorry your son has been unwell. I agree that when faced with that type of problem, you eat whetever you need to keep going. Hope he is now on the mend.

Egg white omelette, how vile. Thank god for proper food on this thread!! Yum

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Finbar · 03/07/2012 16:12

Can anyone recommend a suitable lunch time meal from M&s or Boots that works with this diet ?

Also someone mentioned Babybels - are they ok to snack on?

I'm thinking about jumping into this diet ..but just need ideas of what to eat when at work and I haven't got time to make stuff everyday.

Love all your success stories!

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Shimbo · 03/07/2012 16:16

Finbar - plain salads with some protein (no croutons, sweet dressing) and fat (oil, mayo), egg mayo/tuna mayo with salad, cheese and cucumber, roast chicken portions with salad.......if that helps. Babybels are ok for a snack unless you have dairy sensitivities in which case you should limit your cheese.

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QueenStromba · 03/07/2012 16:16

From M&S: Chicken and pesto salad bites and a couple of their pick and mix cheeses, pre-cooked chicken pieces, ham or smoked fish of some sort.

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Finbar · 03/07/2012 16:24

Thanks
And is there a general rule of thumb as to how much is too much carb? I saw that anything over 3g per 100g was the rule in the veg section -is Quorn ok?

Am circling ever closer to starting....

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BIWItheBold · 03/07/2012 16:41


At M&S there are some prepared salads that are OK - avoid any that have potato, pasta, rice, noodles and croutons - unless you're prepared to pick them out and promise that you won't eat them!

Any of their cooked meats/fish (they sell some lovely, juice prawns)

Their individually wrapped pieces of cheese (just don't go mad with the cheese)

And some of their tapas-type stuff - but be vigilant and check the carb counts. Anything over 3 or 4g carbs per 100g can quickly add up.

Olives are good.

If you follow the Bootcamp rules, and stick to the allowed veg, you won't go far wrong. If you really, really want to count carbs (which can be a good idea at the beginning, just so you really know what you're eating), I have a spreadsheet that will work it all out for you, and I will happily send it to you if you PM me yor e-mail address.
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teaandthorazine · 03/07/2012 16:43

Not sure about Boots - they're pretty sandwich- or pasta salad-based in their offerings I think. But m&s are great for meaty, cheesy picky bits. Talking of which, I've just popped into my local m&s, they are doing 3for£6 on lots of low carb stuff. Bought three packs of calamari with red pepper dressing which are 0.4g per pack and freezable too - they're delicious. AND 2packs of pork scratchings - the woman in the queue ahead of me definitely gave me a funny look when I picked them up! Grin

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BIWItheBold · 03/07/2012 17:11

If you're really desperate, and Boots is the only place nearby, the last resort would be an Atkins Daybreak bar. They sell them in packs of 5. But try not to get into these, as a) they're sweet, and we're trying to break the cravings for sweet things, and b) they are full of artificial ingredients.

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WillieWaggledagger · 03/07/2012 17:51

tea i get a perverse (and probably not entirely healthy) pleasure from eating so many things (and quantities) that people disapprove of. oh yes that IS a large dollop of full fat mayo

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QueenStromba · 03/07/2012 17:52

I've had a nicoise salad from Boots which just had a couple of new potatoes that were easily picked out and fed to my DP. They also do packs of olives. I got the olives, salad and a bottle of water as part of their meal deal.

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mummyduff · 03/07/2012 18:29

Finbar the mexican chicken in the 3 for £6 is lovely and I agree with BIWI the prawns are also great.

I have drank so much water today to try and stop me eating chocolate, which I dont even like!!!, bloody totm! Now feel like Im sloshing Grin

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teaandthorazine · 03/07/2012 18:33

Willie, oh yes, me too! Two of my closest friends are calorie-counters par excellence - I love them to bits but I love the look on their faces when I tell them about pork scratchings and drinking cream for breakfast even more!

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Finbar · 03/07/2012 18:42

Waves back to BIWI!
This is feeling like something I could do. Love calamari and prawns
Are M&S's Fuller Longer meals the sort of thing?

How do you think courgette and brie soup might figure on this? - local bakers does a lovely cup !

Have also checked the Quorn mini scotch eggs- pleasingly low low low on carbs!

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PostBellumBugsy · 03/07/2012 18:45

Another benefit - my blood pressure has dropped significantly on this WOE. I had it done today & it was 100/59 and my resting pulse was 63. Not bad for a 40 something woman of only very moderate fitness. It was 120/72 and resting pulse of 71 this time last year. Only thing I've changed is my food. Grin

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moonshine · 03/07/2012 18:48

Heelo - sorry for not posting as I have had fab support from many of you but I do read the thread and live vicariously thru your losses.

Hope you are both ok Headstart and NMP.

I have put some weight on despite mostly following the woe still (apart from too much wine Blush) but am gearing myself up for results of tests on Saturday.

I buy loads from M & S. I particularly love their packs of piri-piri chicken and the chilli prawns/squid, oh and the salmon flakes. And the Greek salad. And house salad.... (bloody hell and I wonder where my money goes!).

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tartiflette · 03/07/2012 18:56

Bollocks I have just had a strepsil as throat feels awful and tonsils looking murderous... Any suggestions for alternatives? Have down painkillers of all descriptions and gargled with TCP

Mmmm all those M&S bits sound lovely.

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BIWItheBold · 03/07/2012 18:58

You can buy sugar-free Strepsils - although I appreciate that won't help you right this very minute.

How about gargling with dispersible aspirin? That should kill the pain for a while.

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HumphreyCobbler · 03/07/2012 19:02

OMG

Celariac chips!!!!!

What a revelation.

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BIWItheBold · 03/07/2012 19:05

Grin

How did you make yours?

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HumphreyCobbler · 03/07/2012 19:07

boiling water for three minutes, then into a hot oven with olive oil and curry powder. I googled it.

I am really happy

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HumphreyCobbler · 03/07/2012 19:07

hope your throat gets better soon tartiflette

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PostBellumBugsy · 03/07/2012 19:24

tartiflette, the throat sprays are very good. Difflam is fantastic stuff.

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