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4 months and rusks??

91 replies

cazzo85 · 13/08/2016 14:20

Hi my lb is 4 1/2 months I think he needs to start on somethin more than bottles, I have found rusks that say 4-6 months and up, has anyone else tried rusks earlier than 6 months?? And any tips?? Thank you

OP posts:
bittapitta · 13/08/2016 15:54

working you say guidelines change all the time - that's not true. On what basis are you saying that? Health agencies know better than an ill informed mum who thinks marketing/packaging is health guidance fgs.

WaitrosePigeon · 13/08/2016 15:57

Please do not listen to workingmummy's dangerous, uneducated and frankly embarrassing advice.

EmzDisco · 13/08/2016 15:58

Don't assume your baby is ready just because they are interested in you eating. My baby is also interested in me cutting things up with knives, running the bath and drinking wine but I don't let her start doing those things!

NapQueen · 13/08/2016 16:00

More milk? Up his bottles to 8oz 3hourly.

At that age even if advised medically to wean they can really only have fruit and veg which has next to no calories anyways.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 13/08/2016 16:02

Presumably if they're medically advised the paediatrician would give a supplement?

workingMummy2305 · 13/08/2016 17:16

Bitta- WHO guidelines use to be weaning from 4 months. This changed to 6 months months and suggested babies should be breastfed for first 6 months of life.

Anyhow, lets say your baby weighs around 6kg as per estimation guidelines per paediatric resus council. We know your baby needs around 200ml x kg per day for feed. Which equates to 1200ml/24 hr period. We have been informed by OP her baby is having 210ml every 3 hrs =1600ish/mls
So her baby is getting adequate amount of milk and all the nourishment he needs.

So therefor how can giving extra food such as puree apples pears an few spoons of baby rice be a problem?
The problem will arise if OP gives too much food and then baby drops a feed, then OP will be able to balance it out I'm sure she is fully able to do so, she is his mum.

workingMummy2305 · 13/08/2016 17:20

Just to add, OP has not said her son is still
Hungry as such, she has said his showing interest in food which is one of the signs of weaning.
So why would she need to up his milk if his not complaining of being more hungrier? Unless i missed that part Confused

Artandco · 13/08/2016 17:23

More milk. 7oz every 3 hrs isn't much. Increase to 7oz every 2 hours during the day

WaitrosePigeon · 13/08/2016 17:25

The point is an 18 week old baby should not be having solids unless the parent has been advised to and with the supervision of a professional.

Guidelines change, usually for the better.

OP, if you really think your child needs food then you need to speak with a doctor, not mumsnet.

dementedpixie · 13/08/2016 17:26

They can show interest in lots of things at that age but it doesn't mean they should do them. Rusk is a really crap first food - even reduced sugar rusks are full of sugar and you don't get sugar free ones.

Guidelines have been 6 months for at least 12 years which hardly counts as changing all the time. i found weaning much easier with ds than it was with Dd as he was closer to 6 months than the 16 weeks I started with Dd (she was my first and in hindsight it was too soon)

YorkieDorkie · 13/08/2016 17:36

My DD was 4 months when I began weaning her. She was EBF and I wouldn't take a bottle of any kind so increasing her milk wasn't an option. She was so ready and so much happier once I started with a few spoons of solids at dinner time. I started very slowly with very sloppy baby rice and progressed from there mixing in my own milk. I absolutely knew that she was ready for food but I would say that a FF baby should be able to wait until 6 months with an increase of milk - or perhaps hungry baby milk?

I definitely agree with PP that rusks are a poor choice and I'm really not sure why they're even sold!

SpaceDinosaur · 13/08/2016 17:37

Out of interest, how old was your child or were your children when you weaned workingmummy?

Also, lb isn't a mumsnet acronym OP so it's really not obvious I'm afraid. Here we use DC, DS or DD, so your son would be DS.

workingMummy2305 · 13/08/2016 18:01

Space my DS was 15 weeks and like yorkie he was EBM baby, and wouldnt take a bottle. However he was more than ready for solids. This is not the case for every baby , and each baby is his/her own individual so its a case of knowing your child.

SpeakNoWords · 13/08/2016 18:06

workingMummy, I've got an 8 week old at the moment, so weaning is something that will be coming in the near future. How did you know your 15 week old was ready/needed solids - what were the signs?

LunaLoveg00d · 13/08/2016 18:09

he is sitting up by himself and very interested in our food

Neither of which are signs of being ready for solids. Get advice from a Health Visitor first, and they will tell you to either up the quantity of milk or start with baby rice or veg - NOT what are basically sugar packed biscuits. Gluten should also be avoided until 6 months and rusks contain flour (which is gluten). They are basically baby junk food.

LunaLoveg00d · 13/08/2016 18:10

Rusk ingredients (bearing in mind largest quantities first) : Flour, Sugar, Palm Oil, Raising Agents (Ammonium Carbonates), Calcium Carbonate, Emulsifier (Monoglycerides), Niacin, Iron, Thiamin, Riboflavin, Vitamin A, Vitamin D.

Yum Yum.

roseteapot101 · 13/08/2016 18:26

i wouldn't they will give your little one a sweet tooth ,babys go through growth spurts dont worry.When they go through a growth spurt they get really hungry all the time.Just feed on demand as normal

when 6months comes along give them plain toast or fruit to chew on

WaitrosePigeon · 13/08/2016 18:31

15 weeks Confused

Please, any desperate mums out there - do not take this and apply it to your own babies. It's dangerous.

Artandco · 13/08/2016 18:32

A breastfed baby you just feed more frequently. If hungry every 3 hours, feed every 2 hrs. If hungry every 2 feed every 90mins or whatever

peaceloveandtwirlywoos · 13/08/2016 18:35

15 weeks Jesus

Summersun5789 · 13/08/2016 18:36

What Waitrose said

With bells on!!!!

Get advice first

Baby shows interest because you are doing it. Please don't just do it

Artandco · 13/08/2016 18:38

Working -15 weeks is really not recommend so don't go giving others dangerous advice. Unless you are 80 and have a 60 year old child, you have no idea what damage that may have caused yet. Many stomach issues from weaning early don't appear until they are adults

Uphegoesdownhegoes · 13/08/2016 18:46

They'll never learn. It's always
-they looked ready
-the guidelines are always changing
-my dc loved it and it didn't do them any harm
With the occasional well my paediatrician/health visitor/soothsayer advised it (with no mention of the special circumstances this advice was given under).

FuzzyOwl · 13/08/2016 18:46

Even a dietary specialist in a hospital would not ever advise weaning before 17 weeks and that is only in a tiny handful of cases, which are all due to allergies or reflux.

Unless you are already being seen by a doctor the guidelines say that if your baby is under six months and is hungry, give them more milk. If you have any concerns about this, speak to a HV. I appreciate they are only guidelines and there are occasions when it is appropriate to start a couple of weeks beforehand or even to wait a little while longer, but a lot of medical research has gone into giving us the most appropriate and suitable health advice and it seems silly to actively go against it.

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