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Baby rice. Just don't do it.

45 replies

welliemum · 16/12/2006 02:26

Welliebaby2 has just eaten her first-ever solids: a steamed broccoli floret.

She sucked on it with great interest, and although very new to this eating thing, managed to get quite a bit down.

No baby rice, no puree, no mixing things with EBM to make them more palatable.

Just broccoli.

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Xuxu · 29/12/2006 12:50

Btw, ds won't eat from his baby spoon anymore, am feeding him from a metal teaspoon! Anything wrong with that?

DizzyBinterWonderland · 29/12/2006 16:01

mumsallie- dd's favourites in the early days were peaches, nectarines and pears, all chopped into slices. she also loved, and still does, courgette in chip shapes fried til slightly softer in olive oil. if you've introduced bread products yet, dd liked crumpets (interesting texture) and simple toast either with butter on or just as it is.

welliemum · 14/01/2007 20:17

Totally self-indulgent bump, to say that dd2 has been "spoonfeeding" herself since 6 and a half months.

"Spoonfeeding" in inverted commas because I load up the spoon and hand it to her, and she puts it in her mouth. She doesn't know how to turn the spoon or anything - she's just putting it in her mouth as she does with any toy - then gets a lovely surprise when there's food on it!

Can only give her stuff that sticks to the spoon, eg mashed potato. Not going to be giving her tomato soup any time soon.

Just mentioning this because lots of people feel that a baby can't handle a spoon at this age. But really, as I said earlier, grasping something and then bringing it to their mouth is a completely natural action for a 6 month old.

No need for parents to put spoons in their mouths at all.

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chipo · 19/01/2007 22:21

I had a whole packet of baby rice that my dd didn't touch so I made a cheese sauce and she loves it mixed with small pasta stars. Technically it is rice flour, so i just used it as such. I boiled some full fat milk and mixed in the baby rice until it was the right consistancy and just added some mild organic cheddar. It's was really nice, dh thought it was for our dinner when he tasted it.

sweetkitty · 19/01/2007 22:31

Agree it's horrible stuff.

DD2 only had proper food that resembles food not mush, she has never choked on anything, choking would involve her ejecting food from her mouth (never been known) I have never known a child that eats the way she does everything picked up stuffed in mouth next bit in hand.

I heard toddlers complaining today that she was cruising around the table stealing their snacks [blsuh]

bigbird2003 · 19/01/2007 23:30

I really don't understand this as a new wonderful discovery

You can't force a baby to eat anything, whether slop or a piece of steak

All that has happened is, the guidlines to wean have changed therefore the babies are being weaned at a different developmental stage. A baby weaned at 4 months hasn't the skills to self feed. Pre new guidelines, by the time a baby got to 6 months old, they were doing what these little ones are doing now...because they were physically able to put hands/food/spoons to their mouths

Baby rice was a perfect first food for a 4 month old. It is bland and soft. Babies didn't used to stay on baby rice til they were 6 months old. After being on solids for 2 months, they were eating a varied diet, including cut up food/finger food. Baby rice was just a tiny part of it, mine only had it as first taste, then they were on stewed veg and fruit, then everything by 5 months old

I don't understand why people think purees are such hard work either. All you did was whizz up what you were eating or mash it and not always as a combined mush either, you could mash the food separately. (although xmas dinner mashed is yummy) It didn't involve hours of separate cooking, you could freeze the extra for days when you weren't cooking

BLW is not a new amazing idea, it's just utilising baby's natural devlopment

AitchTwoOh · 19/01/2007 23:49

why are you so hung up on whether it's new or not, bigbird? the term is new, created by Gill Rapley, whose paper i presume you have read as you've previously said it would be useful for your studies.
the concept, philosophy, what-have-you of blw is still being tested, no-one really knows what the benifits or otherwise will be, they can only make educated predictions based on knowledge of human behaviour.

everythign you say about development is correct, but you surely must acknowledge that HVs are still telling people to start with purees, operating on the assumption that it takes a couple of months of spoonfeeding before finger foods, rather than that babies are ready at 6 months ish? that this is not the case is revolutionary knowledge to some.

i never did purees, but it would certainly be more effort for me to spoon feed purees than to hand her some of my dinner. and plenty of people have done both and found blw to be less fuss, so as it happens i take their word for it.

i also know that i have never been able to give my dd an ounce more of milk than she wanted, so i assume that the same would go for puree. however i have definitely seen my friends spoon-feed their children beyond a point when they appeared happy, employing all sorts of distraction techniques in order to get them to finish the serving of food. so have other people on these boards... harpsichordcarrier has a particularly grim story of a child she met.

i just don't understand why it's so important for you to prove that it's not new. my mum spoonfed me, and my brother and sister got more finger food, then my youngest sister was essentially blw'ed because we were around to share our food and it was less hassle for my mum. that was in the 70s. there's nothing new under the sun, and no-one's saying that there is.

AitchTwoOh · 19/01/2007 23:50

benefits...

mears · 19/01/2007 23:50

Baby rice will eventually become obsolete because mothers were encouraged to wean before babies were ready. It is crap.

bigbird2003 · 20/01/2007 00:17

I have read so much my head hurts lol

Just reading through the threads here, it is made to sound like it is a new way

Many mums (dads) are suprised that a 7 month old will eat anything (including worms if you put them in the garden) That is what I don't understand. Why is it suprising that a 6/7 month old will eat a sprout whole, or a lump of brocolli? It is a developmental stage not because people have missed out on the puree stage.

The puree stage was for a 4 month old, now the guidelines have changed, it is just skipping a step

I actually think the availability of jars and powdered food is responsible for alot of this. People have lost sight of the way it should be done, rather than buy bland mush, my pet hate are the lumpy foods sold. They taste horrid and mostly all the same. Like I said, xmas dinner mashed is yummy. Babies love flavour (although would love to know why many school age kids go off vegetables but thats a different topic

AitchTwoOh · 20/01/2007 00:49

well, it is 'new' in the sense that it's not something a lot of people know about because HVs aren't making the causal connection between the move from 4 to 6 months and the developmental implications. so when people hear about BLW they assume it's a new way of doing things, and it's such an irrelevance that there's not much point in coming on here to correct them, although i think the literature makes it all pretty clear.

welliemum · 20/01/2007 01:19

Bigbird, I think a lot of people are surprised to see a 7 month old eating real food - dd2 ate a whole peach the other day, skin and all, and people were suprised and even a bit disapproving in a "you're braver than me" sort of way. (Subtext: you are a dangerously cavalier mother)

The idea of starting a baby on purees is so ingrained that it doesn't seem to occur to mothers or HVs to try out other food, even if weaning at 6 months.

In other words, I don't believe many mothers or HVs have noticed that they could be "skipping a step". All credit to Gill Rapley for pointing this out.

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AitchTwoOh · 20/01/2007 10:57

i like 'dangerously cavalier', welliemum , soooooo much nicer than 'slack'...

kiskidee · 20/01/2007 11:06

brings up images of Dogtanion

AitchTwoOh · 20/01/2007 12:00

one for all and all for one, muskehounds are always ready...

DizzyBint · 20/01/2007 14:38

i have friends still asking me..but when are you going to start her on purees? she's 8 months now. they think finger foods means breadsticks and cucumber and that that's all i'm giving her.

welliemum · 21/01/2007 03:22

Nah, no swashbuckling here... I'm too lazy!

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fluffyanimal · 21/01/2007 10:33

Back to the great baby rice debate - I find it an invaluable invalid food so always keep a packet in. If ds is teething or has an upset tummy, he is always happy to eat baby rice with a bit of fruit puree in it, and it does wonders for calming the stomach.

[Waits-for-the-thousands-of-posts-screaming-that-this-is-because-baby-rice-is-wallpaper-paste-and-is-sticking-his-insides-together-like-glue emoticon]

Also, like Bigbird, I have never found purees a hassle, even though I didn't wean ds until he was 6 months. This is because I always used jars.

[ducks-head-under-torrent-of-rotten-tomatoes emoticon]

princessmel · 21/01/2007 10:49

Neither of my 2 have ever happily sucked on broccoli. Other foods but not broccoli. I wish.

Dd does put the spoon in by herself, she's beginning to load it herself too, but I also feed her. I don't see how that is so wrong?
'No need for parents to put spoons in their mouths at all'

When you know your child is hungry ,but for whatever reason will only feed themselves a few spoonfulls before they get bored/distracted/tired etc whats wrong with someone helping them.
If she doesn't have anough food during the day then she'll wake me up for more milk in the night. More than normal.

madness · 22/01/2007 20:52

well, started weaning dd2 yesterday. She has had 1 or 2 teaspoons of babyrice but I have had 2 big bowls of it, mjum mjum!!

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