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BLW/ breastfeeding...

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quootiepie · 31/07/2006 12:52

Hiya, my son is 4 months and around the 6 month mark im obviously planning to start weaning, but I have no idea about it. He is breastfed on demand, and I thought (before mumsnet!) the way to go was puree up the food, attempt after a breastfeed, then after more BFs, then before a BF, then give EBM in a cup with a meal, and have morning and night feed on breast. Now ive heard about baby led weaning, babies still feeding at breast beyond 6 months, im all confused on how to approach this! Is the 6-12 month period mainly breastmilk with getting used to solids? Can I breastfeed on demand? Do I stick to mealtimes being at a (semi) regular time, then allow him to breastfeed when he wants (like now). Im still not entirely sure what BLW is... and how to approach it. DO I still give him mid- night feeds? Im so confused!

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hub2dee · 31/07/2006 19:32

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archiesmummy · 31/07/2006 22:47

Thanx hub2dee, I guess I overestimated my abillity.. LOL

hub2dee · 01/08/2006 09:37

Nonsense. Anyway you are now a link pro.

aitch71 · 01/08/2006 20:45

thanks for passing that on, archiesmummy, i've been away all day. i can't do links either. wrote screeds last night and will do more tonight if BB is boring. (Think we can SAFELY assume that there will be something new to read tomorrow morning...)

good luck quootiepie, it's great fun and terribly exciting. believe me, before you know it your knickers will dampen at the thought of hub2dee's porridge pancakes...
h x

sweetkitty · 01/08/2006 20:58

My DD2 is 6 1/2 months and we are doing BLW too although I have to admit to giving her a spoon with some of DD1s yoghurt on it she holds the spoon and sucks the yoghurt off.

DD2 has her mealtimes with DD1 and I and has bits of whatever we are having, I then BF her on demand throughout the day as normal. DD1 flatly refused to eat off a spoon so was on BMW as well.

hub2dee · 01/08/2006 21:20

Behave aitch .

Pancakes .

aitch71 · 02/08/2006 00:12

sweetkitty,
don't be at all embarrased about using spoons, I really think that's a-okay.

It seems to me that the most interesting principle of BLW is that the children should be in charge of it themselves, so putting yoghurt into your own mouth with your own spoon in your own tiny fist still counts in my book.

although i admit i have to be feeling REALLY strong to let her eat yoghurt, the mess is unbelievable. Corriedale told me that her child eats cottage cheese by the fistful, but i keep forgetting to buy it... must do soon as i think it sounds really good fun.

quootiepie · 02/08/2006 11:57

cant wait 'til hes 6 months. So, its still BLW when they use a spoon but feed themselves?

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quootiepie · 02/08/2006 11:58

how on earth did you post at 12:12, when its not 12 yet???

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aitch71 · 02/08/2006 13:10

posted last night, quootie.
as to your question... weeeellll, no, kinda, yes, but not really.

i think that BLW is if anything more about encouraging the child not to be freaked out by food than it is nutrition, certainly for the first few months of trying it.

and as you will see with toys, keys, anything really, what children like to do is pick things up, turn them upside down, stick them up their noses, rub them into their hair and put them in their mouths. so in a way, if they are only touching the spoon that they are using to feed themselves they are being deprived of all this wonderful tactile learning experience.

but a spoon is part of a child's learning experience as well, i would say, so i do give my dd them to play with (mostly in the bath, where they double as handy temperature gauges). and if we have yogurt, i put the spoon on her highchair tray along with banana and other fruit for dipping. some of it gets in her mouth...

i would forget about the spoons for a while, though, and concentrate on letting your baby touch everything first. in my previous post i was really just wanting to say not to be embarassed about using spoons because BLW is really a guiding principle rather than a diehard dogma, so as long as it's working for you and your baby then there is, IMHO, never any reason to feel embarrassed...

quootiepie · 02/08/2006 13:40

oh yeah... i STILL think 12am is midday I havent started weaning at all yet, so I want to make sure I "get it right" from the start, so hopefully I wont have anthing to "correct". Is BLW more about baby feeding themselves... or actually touching and feeling the food aswell? Should I be only giving finger food? I know not to be feeding them with a spoon myself, but was unclear if they fed themselves (not puree or mush but porridge or something) would that be wrong or right?

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quootiepie · 02/08/2006 13:43

while i remember... if you give them a pear or something, do you skin it 1st? I saw a picture of a 6 month old eating a pear and was unsure.

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aitch71 · 02/08/2006 13:44

honestly, it's great, you just hand them the food and they eat it. archiesmummy posted you a link to a blog i've been keeping for the past few weeks, you could take a peek at that as i modestly think it might help. i've basically written a big long list of all the things my DD has eaten, along with the best ways i have found of cutting them up so she can eat them. i've only just started myself about 8 weeks ago, but i look at teh list and i realise she's eaten loads of things.
that might be just my personal opinion about the touch thing, but i think it's valid. or i might have read it somewhere...
basically, spoons are not evil, but wee fingers are better i think.

aitch71 · 02/08/2006 13:45

i've even done an entry on pears, funnily enough...

quootiepie · 02/08/2006 13:50

when do you start introducing meals eg. shepherds pie or something?

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aitch71 · 02/08/2006 19:16

dunno yet...

baby had pasta arrabiata today and loved it - thankyou to Jenn i think it was who explained about tomato being okay...

i don't really eat things like shepherd's pie, as it happens, dunno why. bet my husband would love it.

i suppose you could give it to them when you know they've got quite good at picking soft things up... personally i might make the case for them self-feeding with a spoon there but you might have to wait a few months before they can do the spoon thing well.

i suggest you just get started on the easy stuff my baby had strips of pepper and cucumber from my side order of salad today along with her penne pasta so it's not hard to find things they will eat. she also tucked into my friends' pizza crusts with great gusto.

wartywarthog · 02/08/2006 23:25

aitch, how old is your dd? love your blog btw - just read a couple of articles.

Quootiepie · 02/08/2006 23:27

how would you give porridge, or rice?

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aitch71 · 03/08/2006 00:12

thanks very much wartywarthog, and may i take this opportunity to compliment you on your charming name?

quootiepie, did you read hub's porridge pancake recipe? it's further down the thread.

and my dd has only ever had rice in the form of a risotto, so it's pretty bound up with parmesan and butter by the time it's gone cool enough for her to eat. have you read all the info yet? did you read about the pincer grip? basically, if they can't pick it up, they probably aren't ready to eat it.

but honestly, quootie, you are getting waaaaaaay ahead of yourself... you'll probably start off with banana, peach and steamed carrots and stuff like that for a couple of weeks at least. but i do understand the excitement, it's such a big step for them...

CorrieDale · 03/08/2006 06:35

I thought I'd add my bit about the spoon thing. We used to give DS yogurt with mashed fruit on a spoon, in that we loaded it and he grabbed it from us and smeared it in. He did that from 6 months. A couple of months later, he wouldn't take the spoon at all, and would only eat yogurt in fistfuls (we quickly learned to cut up fruit and just coat it in yogurt, but it was still messy enough). Now? At 13 months and wanting to be more 'grown-up', he adores spoons and forks, though very rarely uses them for eating. Also bowls and plates, which he eats quite a lot from before tipping them upside down. So I think the moral is: with BLW, your baby is in charge (well, not entirely. We don't give him free access to the fridge yet). Be guided by him.

Quootiepie · 03/08/2006 12:00

just finger food then? wanna make sure i have this sussed. gonna print all info from links out.. they were all brill, thanks everyone x

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hub2dee · 03/08/2006 14:45

Just a few hints re: spoon... (1) They can't hold it / guide it to their mouths properly for the first few months IME (2) don't load the spoon like you might to feed your ds/dd (ie heaped)... just dip it in IYSWIM and let them lick / suck / maul it off (3) sticky stuff - like risotto or my pancake recipe can be useful because you can load a spoon with it and the baby can shake it about without necessarily losing the valuable contents !

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