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BLW Beginner! Top tips please!

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Somersaults · 27/05/2012 19:44

DD is 6mo and we're heading down the BLW route , hopefully in a nice, relaxed manner!

Any top tips/advice/ideas greatly appreciated.

What can I give her that's healthy but piss easy to prepare?! Also any advice about when to introduce the dreaded wheat/dairy/eggs etc. we have no known food allergies in the family so do I really need to be so careful? Or can I just charge full steam ahead and five her anything? What about strawberries and tomatoes too? When should I start giving her meat and fish?

Sorry for so many questions! I've read a fair bit online and short snippets in books but nothing I've read answers all my questions. I walked down to the library last week and they had not one book about BLW. All the weaning books that referred to it (and most didn't!) suggested it was a new crazy fad and then said nothing more about it!

So to the combined wisdom of MN I turn. C'mon, share your best tips and advice with me!

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ButtonBoo · 03/06/2012 09:29

You can check out Gill Rapleys book or website. I started with BLW (first day: broccoli and sweet potato wedges). DD loved it. BUT for me, I wanted her to EAT meat not just suck the juices. Also the 'sticking your face in a yoghurt pot' just wasn't working for me. I even tried Frubes...never again...she swing the bloody thing round her head and it sprayed all 4 walls AND me! I also wanted her to eat cereals etc. So after a few weeks I started doing some spoon feeding. I spoon feeding her weetabix, yoghurt etc. It depends on the meals I make but she'll get spoon fed fish pie or spag Bol (although we're now learning how to use a spoon - take cover!!!) and have her veg, fruit and breadsticks and pasta etc as finger foods.

I got a great book called 'weaning made easy' which talks about both purée and BLW and suggests ways if doing both.

Also try the River Cottage Baby & Toddler cookbook. It's meals that you and your family will like but suitable for babies so low-salt etc. I've made loads from there and DP and DD love it!

ButtonBoo · 03/06/2012 09:37

Should've said that I gave my DD a little tomato purée on some toasted pitta to try out tomatoes and she was fine. I guess just do a little and watch for any reaction.

I just ploughed on in with finger sticks of cheese. I chopped my pasta up small when she first had it. Still not really good at chewing bigger pieces - they just tend to roll around on her tongue for hours and then I have to dive in and fish it out cos she needs to go to bed!!

Sweet potato wedges are dead easy. Tenderstem broccoli (as it has it's own handle). Banana. Avocado. Watermelon (my DD lives this - just watch out for seeds). Cheese sticks (I give mine a mild cheddar as it has less salt). Then we had breadsticks and rice cakes. Tried her on her chicken and fillet steak (posh bird eh?! Fillet steak at 6mo!) but she just sucked it. Good for getting flavour and iron from the juices but as I said earlier, I ended up chopping up or shredding it and spoon feeding with mashed potato, milk, mashed peas etc.

Have fun!!

KoyKarp · 03/06/2012 12:06

We have three DC and did baby led weaning with DS2.... It was actually the worst thing we ever did in terms of feeding as it meant he refused to let us feed him with a spoon, only eating what he could pick up in his hands. He lost a lot of weight and still has problems now. I would say make sure you continue to feed half the meal yourself then let him 'play' and eat the second half himself.

Sorry to put a damper on your thread!

Abitwobblynow · 03/06/2012 14:43

Be careful of wheat based cereal, I weaned on weetabix (nothing wrong with it by the way) and baby ended up being tested for coeliac disease. Consultant explained (when we got to the bottom of his horrendous diarrhoea) that wheat is just too harsh for delicate systems.

So do oatmeal porridge or rice porridge.

The other thing: don't forget meat (protein is vital) and also how much fat a baby needs.
Feed cream, full fat yog and fatty meat. The organ that is fastest growing in a child is the brain, and a full 30% of a baby's diet must be fat.

GodisaDj · 03/06/2012 16:57

koycarp sorry to hear you had a poor experience with BLW and your son lost weight, that must have been concerning? Could you give us some more information on what age he started loosing weight, what foods he started on/ate and who advised that BLW was the cause of weight loss?

I have read the BLW book by Gill Rapely and she does explain that babies and children do decide when they've had enough and choose the right foods for them. So they will be slower to gain weight whilst they "learn" to eat between 6-12 months, but normally this catches up with spoon fed babies by 12 months.

The book also explains how as a western culture, we've become accustomed to not realising when we are full, hence why BLW is a good route as we let the child decide this on their own.

With any weaning route, if you wean on to foods and milk feeds drop, then the food which has been substituted isn't as calorific and so some weight loss can happen.

Weight loss (under one) could be for a number of reasons such as more movement and activity as they learn to crawl and walk, eating healthy foods such as vegetables and filling up on those (eat half a carrot and a glass of milk- which is more filling?!), dropping milk feeds too early within 6-12 month mark, not being offered enough 'fatty' foods and using low fat alternative foods such as yoghurt or margarines (easily done)

I do not spoon feed my dd and have no intention of trying to give her half of her dinner by spoon as to me, it does defeat the idea of BLW.

BLW and spoon feeding don't necessary go hand in hand (loaded spoons are different) especially if they are pushing the spoon away when it goes near their mouth; that normally implies they've had enough food.

I've tried to feed a spoon refuser (a family members baby not my own) and it's near dam impossible. I've also offered food to my other half on a spoon and it isn't an easy way to be fed when you don't know whats on the spoon - that is only my opinion based on my experience. I know spoon fed babies who have a fabulous relationship with food. I also know a lot more that were spoon fed and have terrible relationship with food and its these experiences that have made me choose not to feed that way and let my dd decide what she wants to eat.

All I can do to ensure 'healthy' weight gain is offer her good fatty foods with protein and consult a HCP if she stops being happy and content. She has recently lost 2oz in one month and I'm not at all concerned that this is down BLW but the fact shes crawling and trying to walk and generally doesn't stop from when she gets up to going to bed! BUT of course I will keep an eye on it.

abitwobblynow I agree wheat isn't great for babies. I tend to limit it too. It's something to do with the enzymes in their bodies that break it down but don't quote me on that!

Abitwobblynow · 03/06/2012 18:25

I hasten to add that there is nothing wrong with weetabix, but it shouldn't be a weaning food because wheat is harsh is the point I was trying to make.

This got my injustice reflex some years ago: I wonder if anyone remember that awful scenario where the baby died of salt poisoning and the young parents blamed it on Weetabix. So unfair, and I am surprised the cereal company didn't come out with all guns blazing over this:
Weetabix has NO SALT ADDED, and that poor baby had over 2 tablespoons in its system.
They slandered a blameless foodstuff, it was plain child abuse in the end.

"[weight loss is caused by] using low fat alternative foods such as yoghurt or margarines (easily done)"

DO NOT DO THIS! I think they should have notices in the dairy aisle at supermarkets, advising mothers that babies need full-fat milk, cream, butter and yoghurt in their diets.

Remember the 30% rule: 30% protein, fats, carbohydrates. There is a new form of malnutrition being reported: the children of middle-class health nuts, who feed their children on meusli etc. Great for adults, not great for children.

gallicgirl · 03/06/2012 18:39

Weetabix has quite a lot of salt - around 0.5g per biscuit IIRC!! We use Dove Farms wheat biscuits instead. All ok in moderation though. I think with that poor couple, they were just young and didn't know any better.

Ditto on the full-fat dairy products but good luck finding full fat yoghurts that aren't packed full of sugar too.

I have found that supermarkets' basics ranges quite often have lower salt or sugar than branded products.

If you're worried about gluten/wheat, I think I read that oats are the gentlest form of gluten.

monstertufts · 03/06/2012 19:09

I'm 4 months into my second BLW experience.

Just give your DD whatever the family is eating, assuming it's healthy and with no added salt, honey, or nuts. Don't expect her to eat much for a while - for the first few weeks it almost seems pointless offering food because they don't seem to touch it, and then you're surprised with a foody poo that makes you realise they take in more than you realised!

One thing to bear in mind is that, until she develops the 'pincer grip', she needs to be given quite big chunks of food that she can hold in a fist. Obviously not all food comes in this form, e.g. curries etc. I got round this to some degree by giving my kids bread fingers dipped in or spread with the problem food.

Another thing to bear in mind is that - rather counterintuitively - it's best not to offer them food when they're hungry, at first. She'll just get frustrated as she won't associate 'normal' food with satisfying her hunger. Best thing is to breast/bottle feed immediately before a meal. Don't worry about filling her up with milk - she'll still get the hang of it.

Finally: don't worry too much about anything relating to BLW! With my first child, I was constantly fretting about whether she was eating enough, drinking enough water, being given enough time to eat, etc. With DS, I have to be so much more relaxed just because I have my hands full looking after both of them. He gets stuck in his high chair, presented with food, taken out when his sister decides mealtime is over, and despite all this he is perfectly fine and dandy :)

FredFredGeorge · 03/06/2012 20:04

DD eat curries and chillies and shepherds pie and other non chunky things from well before she had a pincer grip, just scooped it inot her fist and then into the mouth.

PeaTarty · 03/06/2012 20:06

A 2 biscuit serving of weetabix provides 0.24g of salt. I very very much doubt a baby is regularly eating that much weetabix.

PeaTarty · 03/06/2012 20:12

They can have up a gram a day so they would have to eat more than 4 weetabix in a day along side their fruit and veg to be over the limit...

gallicgirl · 03/06/2012 22:25

oh perhaps I miscalculated then.

No matter - DD won't touch the stuff now!

PeaTarty · 03/06/2012 22:39

Grr and I mis calculated too! It's 8 biscuits as it's 4 'servings' of 2 to get near a gram!

MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 04/06/2012 00:19

Just wanted to add about yoghurts. It drove me mad that so many yoghurts aimed at 'from 4m' have added sugar. Why???

DD at almost 4 with still choose Yo Valley natural organic full fat yoghurt over any other (her favourite way is topped with pomegranate seeds) and that's what DS will have.
After a while we also fed Plum brand fromage frais (sweetened with grape juice and has quinoa added in) and Rachels organic yoghurts (also sweetened with fruit).
Or take a natural yoghurt and stir in a fruit puree.

PeaTarty · 04/06/2012 01:47

My older daughter is 3 and still thinks natural yoghurt is normal yoghurt .(it's what we prefer anyway which makes it easier. Full fat Greek yoghurt is creamy and delicious without adding false yuck. )I think about 2 1/2 we let her have different yoghurt out and about. Similar with porridge for breakfast.

Somersaults · 04/06/2012 16:45

We're away with family this weekend and my dad is absolutely loving seeing her eating bits of whatever we're having and is fascinated with how well she's doing. She's really entertaining him at every mealtime! And it really is so amazingly easy to go out and about.

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Clarabelle77 · 12/06/2012 19:27

Hi there. We have been doing BLW for a month now and don't know anyone else doing this so wondered if anyone here can help with a question. I'm over the moon with how things are going but sometimes he is just not that bothered about whatever's put down for lunch or dinner but if I then take it away and offer fruit he munches away! Not sure if this is ok and if I leave him with whatever meal he is having he starts getting upset until I clear it up and bring fruit or something I know he will eat. Not overly concerned but just wondered if anyone else has had a similar problem?

Astr0naut · 12/06/2012 20:02

Porridge fingers works!

However, I must admit, I am having a bit of a wobble. Dd is 7 months now and, although she's eating everything I put in front of her, she still isn't eating much. Ds was eating shit loads at this point; gently mashed rather than pureed, and I was beginning to drop the odd feed. Dd appears to have upped her feeds, so I've a horribel feeling she's making up the difference in milk.

I've got to persevere with it, as she's a complete spoon refuser, but I'm struggling to shut the nagging voice up.

OneLittleBabyTerror · 13/06/2012 10:05

Astr0naut I think in the BLW book, Rapley says BLW babies usually starts eating a lot more from 9-10mo. This is certainly the case for DD. So just hang in there.

Clararbelle if he wants his fruit, just give him his fruit? Do you know it's a european habit to have puddings with meals? There are other cultures who brought up perfectly fine children without this concept of 2-course meals. They either eat no sweets, or they mix the sweet with the savory at the same time. Instead of clearing away the savory and offer fruit, maybe just offer the fruit and see if he'll eat more of the savory afterwards? I do this with DD when she starts playing with her food. I bring out the yoghurt, and sometimes after the yoghurt, she'll feed herself more of the main. As long as he's happy about it, there's no reason he has to eat like an adult.

GodisaDj · 13/06/2012 18:50

Couldn't agree more onebabyterror

Dd also 'got' food at the 8-9 month mark. I was expecting it a bit later.

I don't offer dessert either and just pop fruit out when she's slowing up, she'll normally have a munch on the fruit and go back to the main meal again.

I think I said it earlier but give babies time to eat. It's easy to think they'll be done and dusted in 20 min but dd would happily graze for up to 90 min if I let her! This is good for when you go out for meals, as shell sit in a high chair without fuss for quite a long time as long as there is food Grin

Clarabelle77 · 16/06/2012 19:23

Thanks both for your replies. I have tied to give both and he seems happier. I was just avoiding it as I give him what we are eating and thought it would be a bit rank to have stew covered mango but he couldn't care less!

Somersaults · 16/06/2012 19:25

We've had spaghetti bolognese tonight! Ok so it was with fusilli not actual spaghetti but still fun to watch! DD loved it!

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GnocchiNineDoors · 16/06/2012 19:30

We spent a good 45mins this afternoon watching dd enjoy her dinner sad losers that we are she had a rice cake, half a banana, some orange segments, brocoli florets and baby corn. DH looked amazed when she picked up her sippy cup and drank her water.

Just realised I sound like a loon finding it this entertaining, but she is loving it.

Do you take the skin off sweet potato to make the wedges, and do you use any oil/seasoning?

Also, dds pincer grip is good but im worried at 6mo that she wouldnt be able to eat say, a pea, with it being so small....should I wait a while to introduce such small objeects?

FredFredGeorge · 16/06/2012 19:45

Never bothered removing skins from any wedges, seasoned with all sorts herbs and spices, and yes oil.

served what we ate from the start so peas were they, DD had no problem eating them from very early on, long before she had a pincer a grip - she just scooped things up - often only getting half what she tried but that was enough to put in her mouth.

Somersaults · 16/06/2012 19:55

Yes the scoop method was how DD managed her spag bol tonight!

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