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Lake District Advice

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PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 11/08/2021 22:54

I'm planning a week in the Lake District in October half term, so the last week. We've got accommodation sorted and we'll be happy driving around to explore as we've got eight days.

So! What do we want to see? Kids are teens and early 20s.

We're not experienced hikers. We're comfortable with about five miles usually, but happy to stretch ourselves for a view and we'll have time. We won't want a long hike every day. Are there any amazing spots with a short walk?!

I fancy a canoe on the water but would love to go off (clinging to the shore line) for the day and not be restricted to one hour hire. I'm thinking of buying an inflatable kayak. What would we wear? Regular clothes? Gym gear type stuff? Should we wear life vests? (We're good swimmers, but accidents happen) Will it be too cold to spend long on the water in late October?

Any tips gratefully received. Thank you!

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CurbsideProphet · 12/08/2021 10:23

Do you have National Trust membership? There are a lot of NT car parks that can be expensive if you aren't a member.

If you don't like big walks have a look at Buttermere. It's lovely to walk around. You would need to arrive in the morning before 11am to get easily parked in the car park by the pub. Some people leave their cars anywhere, but we never do that as it risks blocking the road. The drive there is a bit exciting, but DH found it fine as we always go outside school holiday time.

In Ambleside itself Stocks Ghyll is a nice walk right from the centre. We really like Loughrigg Fell, but that might not be what you're looking for.

Elterwater is apparently a lovely walk. We have eaten at Wainwright's Inn near there and it was a great pub, very nice views. I'm October we're planning to walk there from the Elterwater NT car park.

There is the Old Coffin Route from Ambleside to Grasmere. We enjoyed that walk. You could always get the bus back if you're tired. There's a v famous gingerbread shop in Grasmere and lots of cafes.

Derwent Water has lovely surrounding views if you park at Keswick and have a stroll from there (large council run car park in town).

Castlerigg Stone circle just before Keswick is also worth a stop for the views (free on road parking).

Aira Force is another favourite. We haven't been since before covid as they were restricting numbers in the car park, but that's probably relaxed a bit now.

In Ambleside definitely go to The Old Bank House Chocolate Shoppe. Their homemade chocolate is amazing. There is another chocolate shop but it isn't as good (IMHO).

DH really likes a stop at Beer Ambleside to peruse the craft ale. I prefer The Bath House for beautiful toiletries made in Cumbria.

There is a business in Ambleside where you can rent wetsuits, I think it's called Swim I'm The Lakes. They also run swimming courses if I'm remembering correctly.

If you like Japanese food there is a restaurant called Wabi Sabi. Husband and wife run it. We haven't been in yet but saw them on the documentary about Tebay services. The food looked amazing.

The main advice is to always check online in advance where you're planning to park and arrive early to get a spot. There's been so much on bbc 1 north west tonight about visitors abandoning their cars and preventing emergency services from getting through. If you look at LakeDistrict.gov.uk you can see live updates for how busy the car parks are across the national park.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/08/2021 10:46

We've got quite a good inflatable canoe, it was. Ok and fun for the 3 of us when dd was younger but really only fits 2 full sized people. So you'd need more than one for sure and that would be quite a bootfull plus the wetsuits and BAs.
The car parks you can launch your own canoe from (we used to go to coniston) can get very full... we got blocked in for an hour once.

Unless you were likely to get much future use out of it, you could probably get quite a lot of Canadian canoe hire for the money - you wouldn't need wetsuits and the hire would include BAs - and be more comfortable and they're easier to paddle.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/08/2021 10:49

And tbh I wouldn't make plans centred on watersports for the October half term. They're too weather dependent, whereas walking just needs boots, decent waterproofs and a good attitude.

Phillipa12 · 12/08/2021 11:00

My boys have just got back from the Lakes. They have been gorge walking and kayaking, all booked in advance and loved it. There is a go ape near Ambleside and if your teens want a fun walk up a mountain it has to be Helvellyn, first parts boring but Striding Edge near the top makes up for it!

Tiddlywinks10 · 12/08/2021 11:04

Lucy’s on a plate in Ambleside is one of my absolute favourites. Make sure you tell her your plans when asked!
I also really like Kysty- Cumbrian kitchen for something a bit fancier. I ate Wabi Sabi food from Tebay when we got home and I wasn’t that impressed, so wouldn’t rush to eat at the restaurant.

Agree with pp absolutely need a wetsuit in October and remember water sports are tiring, so a few hours on a kayak/paddle board will be enough.

I’ve done gorge scrambling in the lakes too which was great fun and would work regardless of weather.

Short walks- loughrigg fell is great to see multiple lakes over a really short distance :)

RedRec · 12/08/2021 11:07

Another recommendation for Catbells, from Keswick. Good hill walking with great views but not too arduous or hard core.

PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 12/08/2021 12:20

So many good suggestions! Thank you! I knew you'd come up trumps!

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uktrippin · 12/08/2021 13:13

I'd take board games as opposed to a costume and inflatable kayak at the end of October! It will be bitterly cold in the water and dangerous.

You might be better planning some indoors days too or trips to nearby places. Lancaster and Morecambe, a day in Bowness seems obvious. Book a nice pub preferably with a fire and a view!

ErrolTheDragon · 12/08/2021 13:19

@Phillipa12

My boys have just got back from the Lakes. They have been gorge walking and kayaking, all booked in advance and loved it. There is a go ape near Ambleside and if your teens want a fun walk up a mountain it has to be Helvellyn, first parts boring but Striding Edge near the top makes up for it!
If you're not really into hiking then take one of the paths from the Thirlmere side, not striding edge.
RedRec · 12/08/2021 13:49

A pp mentioned Striding Edge. Yes if you have nerves of steel and are extremely sure footed. But it is absolutely terrifying! With sheer drops. Not for the faint hearted or those without a head for heights. I had the most frightening moment of my life up there and will never, ever go back.
Google it, you will see from the photos what I mean.

Toddlerteaplease · 12/08/2021 13:51

The coffin route from Ambleside to Grasmere is lovely.

Hopeisallineed · 12/08/2021 14:07

Pencil museum is truly awful. 😂

robotcollision · 12/08/2021 14:19

If you are in Ambleside, do the 'coffin route' walk from Ambleside to Dove cottage. It's about 4 miles, on the flat with stunning views of mountains all around. You walk through the gorgeous (free) gardens of some stately home about half way there. You could have lunch in Grasmere and then catch the bus back to Ambleside.

There's a nice very short walk around the waterfalls at Ambleside too.

Bit more strenuous but great fun - Loughrigg Fell circular walk is easily doable from Ambleside. Fabulous shifting views. Take the mini detour to explore the caves on the way back.

I've kayaked in winter. I'd go for thermals or fleece and joggers with full body waterproofs on top and then a life jacket, rather than wetsuit. Neoprene gloves and/or pogies will help keep your hands warm if you are out for a while. And a thermos of hot soup. I'd love to pootle about the shores of a lake all day. Sounds idyllic.

PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 12/08/2021 20:00

Going for a walk and getting the bus back is a great idea!

I care for my dad full time and haven't had any respite care since Feb 2020 so I'm really looking forward to getting away. I don't even care what the weather is like. I just want the wind in my hair and not have to worry about rushing home.

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notscarletbutgold · 12/08/2021 21:08

We're in the lakes at the moment, we went canyoning/ghyll scrambling in Church Beck me Coniston which was really good fun if not for the faint hearted. (Cold though even in August!) Jumping off rocks into pools, sliding down waterfalls etc.
Haystacks is a beautiful shorter /easier fell and was Wainwright's favourite.
Going to Hilltop (National Trust - where Beatrix Potter lived) tomorrow so hoping that will be good too.
Is so damn beautiful round here!

PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 12/08/2021 21:25

Sounds fab! I can't wait!

Thanks for all the easy walk suggestions!

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TheCumbrian · 12/08/2021 21:42

The lakes water in October isn't actually that cold, on average it's usually around the same temperature in October as it is in May as it's had a whole summer to warm up and often the weather itself in October isnt THAT cold either.

PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 12/08/2021 22:20

Thank you Cumbrian. That's what I wanted to hear! I gather water is slower to warm up and slower to cool down. I'm hopeful!

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Hopeisallineed · 12/08/2021 22:32

@TheCumbrian well, I swim all year round in the lakes and can definitely tell you it’s colder in October than it is in May. Just went for a Dip this morning in Ullswater snd significantly chillier than two weeks ago. I don’t wear a wetsuit but from September onwards always wonder why I don’t.

Arewenearlythereyet21 · 12/08/2021 22:50

From Ambleside town centre walk up to Todd Crag via the local park. It's all beautiful and you'll get the best view of Windermere and Ambleside from the summit! Under 1000ft so not officially a fell, and therefore falls within your short walk criteria.

Enjoy!

PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 12/08/2021 23:03

Super! Thank you!

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uktrippin · 12/08/2021 23:12

"The lakes water in October isn't actually that cold, on average it's usually around the same temperature in October as it is in May as it's had a whole summer to warm up"

Completely inaccurate. Please don't repeat this. "Had the summer to warm up"?! Confused

HazyDaisy123456 · 12/08/2021 23:26

Hallin Fell at Ullswater (my favourite lake or water) or Latrigg near Keswick are both reasonably easy short climbs with very rewarding stunning views.

Or Askham fell loop route in the Eden Valley is supposed to be a nice walk. Askham is a nice village and Askham hall do wood fired pizza if available in October and their is a pub across the road which looks nice. While you are there close by is Lowther Castle (its a ruined castle) but lovely gardens and the castle is a fabulous back drop for photos.

Lots of places to hire paddle boards and kayaks etc etc.

My sister went ghyll scrambling with I think Keswick extreme sports at the weekend which she thoroughly enjoyed and I am sure your young people would enjoy too.

It will be cold and wet weather wise but yiu may get some sunshine so take lots of warm layers, waterproofs and comfy shoes for days out (no idea what to wear for watersports sorry as not my thing).

Wastwater in the Western Lakes is also gorgeous no facilities so have a toilet stop before you go but calm water vast and stunning scenery.

HazyDaisy123456 · 12/08/2021 23:29

Ooh in Ambleside Zefferelli’s is a must fab veggie food and we aren’t even vegetarians. They also have a cinema attached if its a really miserable wet day.

TheCumbrian · 12/08/2021 23:33

@uktrippin

"The lakes water in October isn't actually that cold, on average it's usually around the same temperature in October as it is in May as it's had a whole summer to warm up"

Completely inaccurate. Please don't repeat this. "Had the summer to warm up"?! Confused

Feel free to check average monthly water temperatures for the various bodies of water. They are widely available online.

A random selection:

Grasmere's average water temp in May is 8.8c and October is 9.8c

Bassenthwaite average temp is 8.4c in May and 9.3c in October

Windermere average temp in May is 9.5c and 9.4c in October

Derwent Water av temp in May 9.6c and 9.5c in October.