Private school teachers - would you stay on and work for Corbyn?

[noblegiraffe]

So Labour has decided that it will strip private schools of their assets (I assume this means ‘we own Eton now’) and integrate them into the state sector.

As a private school teacher what do you and your colleagues reckon? Would you be happy to become a state school teacher?

Or would you say ‘fuck this’ and go and do something else?

The latter.

I will never work in a state school again. I worked in three over 10 years, and all were horrendous. I was sworn at, groped, and had my arm forcibly shut in a door.

No support from above. No money for resources. Ridiculous hours and demands.

Unless they make state education safer and more reasonable, they will lose many good teachers.

Out of interest 2dogs, what's the difference in terms of working conditions? I'm in a lovely state school but have seen jobs in private over the years.

The hours balance out - longer holidays but more duties during the week, including Saturdays and some Sundays.

Plenty of money for resources.

More autonomy - I am trusted to do my job.

The biggest factor for me is respect from the students.

I've worked in an 'outstanding' state school and it didn't come close. I was possibly unlucky though!

I’m thinking that there are lots of private school teachers like you, 2dogs who switched to private in order to be able to continue teaching. Labour’s plans seem to rather assume that you’d be happy to go back.

It is a joke policy dreamed up to grab headlines. Totally unworkable in reality.

What has become of Labour?

I agree that there needs to be more money for education but this isn’t the way to do it!

I’ve gone the other way-have worked in private for the last 12 years and have just returned to state. Tentatively happy about it so far 🤞 it all works out. Private schools can be really REALLY REALLY badly run, and have had some bad experiences, so this is my ‘last ditch attempt’ to keep in teaching before I jack it in entirely.

Belle how would this policy raise more money for education? Educating another 7% of children would be really expensive, so a massive cost, not a fundraiser.

The school I work in is part of a huge global schools group. Our school itself is leasehold, we have no assets other than our good reputation and a tiny bit of equipment!

noblegiraffe

I don’t think it will. But that’s part of how it is being sold. Take from the rich to give to the poor! It’s the politics of envy and it’s bullshit.

That’s what I mean when I say it isn’t practical. Have any of the people proposing this worked out how much this will cost?

How stupid is this. Even more dc to find places for. Pathetic idea

Ridiculous idea. I've taught in both, not particularly loyal to one or the other. But it's just so wildly unworkable!

Taking away the tax breaks that private schools get will be a fund raiser. Taxpayers subsidise each child at Eton by ~£700. That’s the joke of the current system

That's interesting2dogs. It sounds like your school is close to mine then but without the accountability nonsense of the state.

The policy isn't workable. I'd be a bit more supportive if there was some parity on how the two sectors were monitored, some better funding to allow all kids to have a broad curriculum. Maybe a better way of independent schools needing to do something meaningful to justify charitable status etc.

I don’t see how this will be a fundraiser. There will be the same number of children needing education but less money to pay for it since everyone currently paying fees will stop. I get that there are idealogical reasons for the policy but it’s an expensive one.

@CarrieBlue

And how much would it cost to reintegrate those schools into the public system?

My school has charitable status but isn’t private. It was a foundation school when it was first founded and then became a comp. Are we to lose our charitable status too? It’s all that keeps us afloat.

Taxpayers subsidise each child at Eton by ~£700.

But if that kid no longer goes to Eton but Eton Comp, his education now costs the taxpayer £5k. Or presumably more because I expect it’s quite expensive to maintain those buildings.

If people are wealthy enough to send their child to Eton then they can pay the extra that comes from the school losing its tax exempt status in my opinion.

I don't think private schools should be charitable and get tax breaks. Abolishing them is still wrong to me.

It’s all a load of bollocks tbh! He has ostracised a majority of people who would vote against him.
I work in a prep school, it’s a registered charity. Where’s he going to put pupils in a school where the maximum is 16 in a class? He’s full of shit.
My dm has been closely watching him, she recognises his strategies to those of the communist party that she’d left behind in her home country. I’m in agreement with her.

Lola the Labour proposal is to seize private school assets, distribute them, and integrate the private school kids into the state system.

The plan is for there to be no more Eton, just Eton Comp.

Yes, I saw that. I don't agree with the Labour plan. It's ridiculous and unworkable.

They'd get my support on private schoold if they had a proper plan regarding charitable status, tax breaks etc rather than scoring cheap political points.

Here’s the proposal.

I wonder if they are considering private school teachers as ‘assets’ that can be distributed democratically to the rest of the education system.

It’s a joke policy
All the things above plus would they really want to piss off a very vocal educated and articulate sector of society ?

Dh teaches prep. He would be very unlikely to go back into state schools. He is a subject specialist in an area being squeezed out to the detriment of the kids.

I hadn't realised they were going to do something sensible in their policy. From what I'd heard it was all about man the barricades, close them down and make them comprehensives.

That proposal is ridiculous in its entirety.
I support the first bullet point though. I don't see why any organisation that offers almost nothing to wider society should be allowed loads of financial benefits when state schools are struggling.

@LolaSmiles

But they are putting something into society. They are saving the tax payer thousands by paying for their child’s schooling.

As @noblegiraffe pointed out they may get a tax break if £700 per pupil but they are saving us £5000 a year.

Seizing assets sounds a great way to end up in court facing dozens of QCs who went to Eton and are working pro Bono.

The SNP are talking about the same thing in Scotland but seem to be forgetting that the law in Scotland says pupils must be allocated a place at a state school.