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Can someone explain about teacher interviews and job offers?

38 replies

VantaBlack · 03/06/2015 21:01

DD is getting to the end of her PGCE year and is applying for jobs. I'm not from the educational field and can't understand how the appointment system works. In my field of work, we see all the candidates, mull over the interviews, offer the job and then wait for the acceptance. And if they don't accept then you go back to No2 choice, who you have kept hanging on.
DD seems to think that teaching appointments are instantaneous - you have the interview, the offer and the acceptance within hours. She said that there was a position at her placement school the other day with two applicants. Applicant 2 couldn't make the day so they agreed to interview him the next day. They went ahead with the other interview on the original date and appointed Applicant 1 before they had even seen App2. This must illegal under discrimination rules but DD seems to think that this is the way it is in education.

Anyway, DD has two interviews on two successive next week. Sods Law says that the place she wants is the second one. If she gets offered the first place is there a teachery way to stall them for 24 hours until she knows whether she has/not got the second place?

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thebookeatinggirl · 14/03/2021 15:42

I think that in LEA schools the interviewing process is basically still the same. They will usually appoint on the day, and in interview you are asked if you'd accept if offered. Rarely will they wait if you say you have another interview. You decide there and then. Academies can and do sometimes do things differently eg. Interview over a few days, you wait longer to be told the outcome and there can be more flexibility. In any circumstance verbal acceptance of a job is considered binding, and it is still very bad form to back out after the fact.

CarrieBlue · 14/03/2021 16:38

Depends a little on shortage subject fir secondary - if you’re maths or physics you’ve more wriggle room than history or pe - they may be willing to give you 24 hours

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 14/03/2021 16:52

In the old days you'd sit outside and wait to know who had got the job. I had two candidates do that once - the others left, they stayed. They were super helpful and chatty, helped with art equipment etc. The head offered them both a job in the end. Both were great appointees.

I once asked for an overnight to make a decision. I hadn't sounded out my head that I was going for another job, and needed to have time to discuss options with him. I didn't take it, and noticed that they later re-advertised without the TLR that I'd applied for.

WombatChocolate · 14/03/2021 18:32

The reason it is often like this, is that there is a very tight window, and often the majority of jobs are being interviewed for, in what can be a 4-5 week period.

If you don’t offer a job on day of interview, there’s a high chance the candidate will have an interview elsewhere next day and might take that. It’s highly common that you call 5 for interview and by the time of the interview 2 or 3 pull out as already have got a job elsewhere.

With regard to accepting on the day, it is wise to accept subject to contract. Especially now there are academies with different contracts, you can find iffy terms you do not like, but don’t know about until you see them. If I accepted verbally, I would say, subject to seeing the contract. And I would never hand my notice in at current place until contract was received, signed and returned. If I accepted verbally, I might also email and say I looked forward to receiving the contract and being able to formally accept the offer.

With regard to having an interview next day, well you have to gauge this one. Sometimes you can tell there is a strong field and the school cannot and won’t wait and you might have to decide to sacrifce the other interview. Sometimes, when people have 2, they ring the one happening second beforehand and say they have an interview the day before and ask for advice about what to do...sometimes a school will say they can make a decision by lunchtime....and then if the person gets offered the first interview job, they can tell that Head, that they would like until lunchtime next day to decide and guarantee to call by a certain time. It’s all very stressful. If a Head really wants you, and particularly if they want you, you’re a shortage subject and/or the rest of the field isn’t strong, they might give you 24 hours to decide. If your other interview is a couple of days or longer away though, it doesn’t really work.

For NQTs, do be prepared to ask about the terms of the contract....notice periods, sick pay periods etc. For independent schools, check they are still in the teacher pension...not all are and this is a big deal. Check the salary and also ask to see the salary scales so you can see the likely pay progression. You can do ask all of this either in person after accepting subject to contract or by email afterwards. Email the questions as soon as you get home.

Schools cannot wait because you might get another job and their pool of candidates is reducing all the time, but equally they must provide you with the info to make an informed decision. If the terms of employment turn out to be unfavourable and you don’t want the job on that basis, it’s important that you have left scope to negotiate or pull out on knowing these. This is especially the case these days where terms vary more than in the past.

Things you d want to know are:

  • starting pay
  • salary scales and progression policy
  • check notice periods and sick pay policy

Given schools want speedy decisions, they should be able to provide all that info with your offer.

I think less these days ask you to sit there and wait to be told, but might phone that evening and send over any documentation you’d need to see.

Be ready with your questions....have them written down as it’s easy to forget what you wanted to ask and find you’ve accepted without a crucial bit if info.

I still remember my first job interview. It was about 3 hours away and I travelled home to find my housemate saying the school had called to offer me the job. It was a Friday night and I had to wait until the Monday to speak to them to get details. It was before mobiles and before email was widespread. I worried my housemate had misheard.

Often you don’t hear for several days (or sometimes ever...how rude) if you’re unsuccessful. They are keeping a 2nd person in reserve in case the first doesn’t actually formally accept. If you get offered it after a while, you might be 2nd choice (no problem in itself) and sometimes if it’s a job for a non Sept start or it’s advertised really really early for Sept, they might be considering re-advertising.

It’s a horrible process. And actually I think more jobs fall through after being verbally offered than you’d think. It’s often that some aspect of the offer requires a bit of negotiation, and an agreement can’t be reached.

WombatChocolate · 14/03/2021 18:37

Kershawammy, I’d ring the 2nd one and tell them you have an interview on Weds...ask if there is anything they can do to bring the interview forward as you’d rather come to them, but will find it hard to turn down an offer if the first cannot wait.

It will depend if you are the current favourite or not. It never hurts for other places to know you’re in demand and that you’re being pro-active either. However, if other candidates are coming later in the week they really might not want to see you sooner.

Independent schools often state they reserve the right to appoint t before the closing date. They often interview promising candidates as they come in, being aware good people can be snapped up by elsewhere. They will often see someone sooner and offer to them, even if other candidates have been called for interview. It’s why applying as soon as poss and not waiting for the deadline is worthwhile, and going for interview as soon as poss is a good idea. It can be different in independent though.

Kerrshawamy · 15/03/2021 12:34

Thanks so so much for all this advice and updates folks. I think I will ring the preferred school later and let them know my situation. I applied over a week before the deadline which was yesterday so hoping they have read my application already!

Bananabuddy3 · 15/03/2021 19:34

Blimey! My phone call came the next morning (at 7am I admit) She may strike lucky.

PumpkinPie2016 · 20/03/2021 13:39

Your daughter is correct. When I got my current job, we started the day with 6 of us being interviewed. 3 were sent home after the lessons. The rest of us were then interviewed and asked to wait in the room we had been in. Myself and another candidtate were then offered jobs and both of us accepted. It's so quick compared to other lines of work.

I do think though that having had a tour, met colleagues, met the head and taught a lesson you have a pretty good idea if you like the school.

spanieleyes · 20/03/2021 14:10

I had a " last man standing" interview day! Nine of us were called for the day, we all taught a lesson in different classes and then gathered in the staffroom, one was called and never seen again! Then a written exercise, another was called and disappeared. This went on through the day with different activities until there were 3 left. We were then interviewed , one after the other, then back to the staff room to wait. I was called in and offered the job, which I accepted so the other two were sent on their way!

Malbecfan · 21/03/2021 11:44

I have been in this position. I was interviewed for a HoD job in 250 miles from where I was based, but near to DH. They rang me whilst I was driving home to offer me the job. I asked for 24 hours to think about it as I had another interview the following day, so very reluctantly, they agreed. I went to the interview at the school which was within walking distance of my house and within around 20 minutes, I knew it wasn't the job for me. There was only one other candidate and she was interviewed first. When I went in to the interview panel, I immediately explained that I had been offered a promotion some distance away and they were absolutely lovely. The Head said it was a horrible decision to make between 2 strong candidates and thanked me for making it for her. She also asked me to keep in touch if the new job didn't work out, which I thought was lovely. On my walk home, I rang the distant school and accepted the job, so they too were very happy.

selfesteemsearcher · 16/05/2025 11:43

In general what your daughter has described is accurate.
The whole interview process for teaching in itself is quite Long winded I think. Most applications are still old school and not online having to fill out an old style form, with personal statement and so forth. On ‘interview’ day, you have your lesson observation and interview, plus in 99% of cases I’ve experienced over the years - then a student panel too. (Which is for sure the scariest part for most people as they ask some things you couldn’t have even prepared for often)
At the end of the formal segment, they will ask you the question ‘ Are you still a firm candidate?’ If there is a lot of people interviewing generally they only keep certain people through each of those stages. They won’t even formally interview some people at all, they will let them go at intervals, as the interviews tend to run over quite an extended period of the day. When presented with said question then of course she would say ‘yes’, if she too was happy with what she has seen.
I will agree that most schools do let you know about the outcome of your interview within 48 hours, They generally ask you to respond as soon as possible (as sometimes offered in email now). If offered on the phone they would want the answer there and then.
With that being said, I’ve also been to School interviews that took a week to respond to candidates, even the person who got the job. So the response time does vary for sure. I remembered during Training my tutor told us that every interview was to gain experience, They helped you build confidence for future ones, on average a teacher interviewed 6 times before they secured a job as (ECT/NQT) .
Teaching interviews are definitely competitive. You are often up against people with a lot more experience than you as a newly qualified teacher. You just need to show how that actually benefits you that you are more up-to-date with current Curriculum and ways of doing things.

Wishing her luck, I wouldn’t worry too much about it, they won’t offer the job on the spot anyway, I would say if the first offers, to accept, as there’s no saying she would get the second anyway (if is her preferred school due to being a better school on paper, as may have more applicants) I wouldn’t risk loosing the other if offered 🩷

FreshAirForwards · 16/05/2025 18:11

@selfesteemsearcher

this thread is from 2021. She’s probably a 2nd in dept by now ❤️

selfesteemsearcher · 16/05/2025 18:16

FreshAirForwards · 16/05/2025 18:11

@selfesteemsearcher

this thread is from 2021. She’s probably a 2nd in dept by now ❤️

I know I realised after 😂 randomly came up on the trending page for me 😂 xx

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