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Training treats for raw fed puppy

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LionSock · 20/03/2017 10:40

Hi does anyone have any recommendations for healthy training treats for a 8 week old, raw fed puppy please?

I do have some dried chicken hearts which are quite large so I break them into small pieces. Puppy seems to struggle to pick them out of my fingers though.

I also have some dried sprats but haven't opened the packet yet. Do these break up easily?

I was thinking about cooking a chicken breast and cutting into small pieces but as he's raw fed, is this a bad idea?

I see people mentioning cheese and peanut butter on here all the time but surely these aren't any good for dogs?!

Am I just over thinking this?

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Hesdeadjim · 21/03/2017 14:49
Hmm

Ignoring the raw debate for just a second to answer your question: Get yourself a dehydrator, you'll save an absolute fortune in the long run. Cut up liver, heart etc and stick it on for 12 hours. You can do enough treats for a month for about £5. All totally raw friendly and will last indefinitely out of the fridge with no added preservatives etc. Job done.

Right! Apologies folks, this is going to be loooong.

I started raw feeding 2 years ago because my very sickly basset puppy wouldnt eat kibble. After blood tests etc, the vet found nothing wrong with him and at that point he hadn't eaten for 11 days straight. He was so thin his hip bones were sharp.

Anyway, as a last resort the vet suggested we tried raw feeding and at that point I'd have fed him exclusively on McDonalds if i thought it would save him. I did as I was told and my boy absolutely wolfed down his first raw meal and hasn't left a scrap of food in his bowl since. He's 2 now and completely thriving. He's now the healthiest, most active and fit basset you've ever bloody seen. His muscle tone is very defined, he's lean and shiny and his teeth are bright white still. He went from a dull coated, underweight and poorly hound to a sleek, soft coated power house in 3 weeks. It was insane.

I started researching.

Kibble was invented 80 years ago to service dogs who traveled by boat overseas. They created a food that wouldn't spoil, but was able to keep a dog sustained for long periods of time. It was almost entirely grain based.

It became properly popular in the 1970's when "complete" dog foods were invented. Much like today, the industry sort to produce low cost, highly palatable foods that were convenient for owners.

The problem with a complete diet like that though is that it's much like meal replacement shakes for humans: there is no way to make a diet of the same thing day in, day out truly nutritionally "complete". Without variety, any and all diets are none ideal.

That's where raw feeding comes into it's own. My dogs have a variety of about 8 different proteins every month, a mix of whole bones to clean teeth, bone-in minces and boneless minces to create the required 80/10/5/5 balance.

My vet saw our dog recently (in for nail clipping having not visited for nearly 2 years) and said something really interesting that I think rings true: As vets, they only ever see the consequences of raw feeding done badly, because a properly balanced raw fed dog very rarely visits a vet. That's why a lot of vets dont see raw feeding as a viable option. However, a properly researched, balanced and varied raw diet produces incredible results and can give a dog the best possible nutritional composition. My boy is a living example of that.

I often get asked by other basset owners how we got our dog in such awesome condition because they've never seen a healthy basset before, and when I talk to them about raw feeding I always caveat and explain the need for balance and variety and that doing your research first is vital.

Each to their own, if you prefer to feed your dog kibble then go for it, but don't rant and rave against raw feeders who are doing everything they can to give their dogs the best they can, just like you. Kibble may have been fed to dogs for years, but dogs have been eating raw for hundreds of thousands of years too Wink

Training treats for raw fed puppy
Training treats for raw fed puppy
Bluebell9 · 21/03/2017 15:30

I dry out lambs liver in the oven. Cut it into strips, scissors work best I've found, then put it in the oven for 2 hours at about 100-120c.

My pup loves it. I take a strip out when walking and break it into pieces.

FuckTheFuckityOff · 23/03/2017 07:00

These are the Farm Food ones.

Training treats for raw fed puppy
Noitsnotteatimeyet · 23/03/2017 08:01

Are you a vet now sparklingraspberry Hmm I'm sure the last time you were dispensing advice you were an assistant... and now you're removing teeth from dogs...

picklemepopcorn · 23/03/2017 08:21

I dry organs in the oven. It takes a long time though, but saves having a dehydrator hanging around.

I slice kidney and liver while it is still frozen, as thinly as I can. Lie it on lined baking sheets and put it in the fan oven with the lowest possible heat or on defrost- the fan goes but no heat, I think. It stays there for a couple of days with me turning it over every now and then, and breaking the pieces up.

I store it in an open tub not an air tight one, in case it's still a bit moist.

Dog loves it, and won't eat organs otherwise.

BertieBotts · 23/03/2017 08:24

I dry organs in the oven. It takes a long time though, but saves having a dehydrator hanging around.

Grin Out of context, this sounds so gruesome!

picklemepopcorn · 23/03/2017 08:39

DH thinks it is gruesome! Whole family groans on organ drying day...

picklemepopcorn · 23/03/2017 08:41

Raw feeders put effort into doing a good job. My vet knows.

Why do people constantly fall for the advice of the big company trying to sell stuff and make a profit?

yellowpuffafish · 23/03/2017 08:49

I found Ziwi Peak the best dog treats for my dog. plus healthy. He goes crazy for them Grin

SparklingRaspberry · 23/03/2017 17:05

Are you a vet now sparklingraspberry hmm I'm sure the last time you were dispensing advice you were an assistant... and now you're removing teeth from dogs

Oh fgs.
Yes I am an assistant. Which in case you wasn't sure about, means I assist the fully qualified vet. I also enrolled through my practice on a course which led me to achieve the ANA qualification. Therefore I assist the vet in certain treatments. Teeth extraction being one of them. I may not have personally pulled the tooth out (I am not qualified to do this) however I was inches away from it happening, I was assisting the vet whilst they were doing it.

Anything else you wish to question me on?

LionSock · 24/03/2017 10:20

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm going to ahve a look at dehydrator. His favourite so far is definitely chicken and I've finally opened the sprats. I can't get the smell off my fingers Sad

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LionSock · 24/03/2017 10:21

Jim I absolutely love your post. I'm so glad raw feeding made your dog better.

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QuestionableMouse · 24/03/2017 10:23

What do you think a bit of cooked chicken is going to do to him?

LionSock · 24/03/2017 10:34

I didn't know if mixing cooked and raw food was a good idea.

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LionSock · 24/03/2017 10:35

I don't want to upset his stomach.

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picklemepopcorn · 24/03/2017 11:33

My understanding is that the nutrients in raw food are better for the dog, but a bit of cooked chicken won't hurt. It's a good way to get the ten percent organs in though, if your dog is picky.

Hesdeadjim · 24/03/2017 11:34

Mixing cooked and raw meat is absolutely fine, but if you're anything like me you'll forget it's in your pocket and end up with a bag full of rotting chicken Blush.. this is why I have a dehydrator!

There's also these which are great: Completely 100% the meat that's stated, no added anything and just dried. I order them as additional meaty variety for the hounds :)
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171906231840?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=471121888934&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

LionSock · 24/03/2017 13:00

Thanks Jim. I saw those on Amazon so I think I'll get a packet to try.

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TheHodgeoftheHedge · 24/03/2017 13:15

I make my own liver cake and freeze what I don't need. All my dogs go bonkers for it. There are lots of different recipes available but here's one:
cleverdogcompany.com/liver-cake-recipe/

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