Come talk to me about canny collars/haltis

[ChickensHaveNoEyebrows]

I am currently using an Easy Walk harness with my extremely bouncy nuts adolescent spaniel. He walks well on it, but I've found that under his armpit on the side where the harness tends to ride up he has some small, red lumps (I think from chafing). I've looked at other harnesses, but suspect I'll have the same issue. He runs like a freaking bullet when off lead, and it's all too much rubbing. I've never tried a head collar, but have heard good things about the halti and canny collar. Do you use either collar, and how do you get on with them? And can you reassure me that they're not cruel .

I have contacted two, Cuebill. Would it be ok to PM you? :)

Of course :)

Aaaw Chickens I thought of you today.

Was out with a regular group of walkers when a well known ball crazed spaniel arrived ignoring the futile recall of his owner.

As some of the dog owners knew him we were all instructed to retrieve our balls. Once he realised we were onto him he returned to his owner

Who then got to put him on his lead and then bring him over on her terms.

I genuinely would be lost without the group as it is helping my Lab earn socialisation and manners, and ensuring I pick up on her bad manners to work on.

One chaps the BEST, when a new dog comes flying over he says "Can't you keep your dog under control?"
then when you look flustered grins and says "Then you're in the right place".

As hard as I'm working to train mutt I still know I'll need someone to one help in a few months time to get us out of bad habits.Behaviourists are good as you are getting an objective observation from someone who understands how both dogs and people work.

At least that spaniel wasn't a bastard, HD :(. Going to try CueBill's advice and avoid interaction as much as possible

Chickens

He sat on Hullys head until she released the ball.

In time you will have a spaniel like that. An experienced bastard who knows where the line is and how close he can get before he crosses it

I was WELL sized up with Hully. I could have had her sister, who to all intents and purposes is normal sized and normal brained.

If Hully had been my first dog, I'd be on here sobbing asking if I should rehome her.

Oooooooow!!

Only the knowledge that in about 2 years I'll have a dog that finally vaguely gets it keeps going.

You've got to be like Dory

JustKeepTrainingJustKeepTrainingJustKeepTrainingJustKeepTraining

I love you, HoneyDragon

Ach, you love yer bastard dog more though . I hope a behaviourist helps. It's always interesting when people point out what signals you're giving out without realising.

mistledog was a 'needs experienced owner' dog - she didn't know how to deal with other dogs, and was frightened (lack of socialisation) and so would go out in front of you and put on a big brave dog act, together with a big brave dog noise - which would wind up any approaching dog because they thought that she was potentially aggressive - so they would come towards her with that in mind - so she would turn tail and they would think 'we've scared her' so push forward more - and she'd run back to whoever was walking her (and forget to put the brakes on and crash into your legs). I found a nice dog walker to regularly exercise with - she had a nice group of dogs and her own dog kept them in order. Finding the right group made all the difference - hopefully you'll work out which dogs you can take yours out with successfully (and they might even help to teach him how to interact appropriately with other dogs)

Using Cuebill's techniques this morning, we had a good walk :) A dog he knows well came along, didn't interfere with his game and all was fine for a few minutes. Then another couple of dogs that he knows but can be narky with came along with their own ball, so I made lots of excited noises like a children's TV presenter, and walked him away with his own ball. No aggro, a positive encounter and a much more relaxed owner. I can live with that

Yay

I promise one day very soon you will have a dog you can enjoy all the time.

My dog, however, got described by two passing youths perfectly today

"That's, like, the Andrex Puppy on steroids, that dog"

I confess, I LOL'd.

We also went for a walk with my friend and her two dogs, an extremely chilled greyhound and a nervy JRT. No problems at all. Jasper and the JRT had a marvellous time chasing and rolling around with lots of waggy tails. The grey occasionally leapt on them both with a happy 'woooooof', just to scare the shit out of them. All in all, it was wonderful. The JRT grrrred at Jas when he'd had enough, and Jas backed off. They then went sniffing along the hedgerow looking for small scurrying things. He was like a different dog. It gives me hope, people.

(I hasten to add that this dog walk was prearranged, and when I told my friend that Jas was being unpredictable she still insisted on coming and seeing how it went. I was a bit anxious about it, but these dogs have all met without incident before. I won't be mixing him with new dogs any time soon.)

Can you supply gin, HD? I could go a gin.

Had exactly the same problems with my Collie boy we switched to a single headcollar ( gencon allin one) and that worked for us.

I walk one of mine on one as she can't have anything around her neck. She also lunges at people and it helps to have control of her face...

I do think they have a place and aren't the tool of the devil, most dogs accept them eventually and if they walk nicely what's the problem?

In my experience the Gencon collar was very comfortable ( Bearing in mind i wasn't wearing it) No fuss or fighting and it did the job, wasn't keen on the harness style as its more obtrusive.

Canny collar is amazing, walked my manic, 12 stone newfoundland beautifully in a couple of days! Yes, I could have spent months calming, training and having my arms yanked out, but a few days with a £14 canny collar, thank god!

Haltis are brilliant. The end :)

Hiya

I use a gencon, at first i wasn't too sure about all of these head collar/halti nonsense but Gencon has literally changed the way my dog now walks!

I use a halti on my labradoodle as this is the only thing that stops her pulling. We tried everything to stop her pulling, using advice from a dog trainer. She's quite happy with the halti and so are we.

For me a halti makes complete sense as it gives you more control over the dog, just like a bridle or a head collar on a horse's head.