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What small furry might be suitable?

92 replies

FairyBarr · 27/01/2024 17:31

I'm just in the initial stages of thinking of getting a pet; I will do my research but wondered if anyone could give me a steer on what type to look at?

I have two kids aged 11 and 8; we currently have tropical fish - I had rabbits before I have kids but looking for something smaller, that needs less space, this time.

We've got room for a reasonable sized cage and got time for feeding/cleaning/playing daily. We aren't in a rush so can take our time finding the right cage, right place to buy a pet etc.

The big BUT: we go away several times a year and would like to find something that could happily be left for a long weekend say every other month with just a neighbour popping in once to feed and then a couple of times a year we would be away for a week and ?would take the cage round to a family member to care for?? It this is ridiculously impossible got any small furry then I'd like to know now before i spend ages researching Grin

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 27/01/2024 21:15

None. No caged animals. None of them want to be anyone's pet. It's a weird concept to want to keep an animal captive in a cage in a fake environment so that you can look at it and think how cute it is and laugh at its antics.

I never used to think like that. I had rabbits when I was a kid. Fish. My own kids had a hamster.

I just had a complete change of heart over the whole idea when I stopped to really think about it.

Persipan · 27/01/2024 21:19

Rats are wonderful pets.

Dwarf hamsters are horrible bitey little bastards.

RogueFemale · 27/01/2024 21:24

CurlyhairedAssassin · 27/01/2024 21:15

None. No caged animals. None of them want to be anyone's pet. It's a weird concept to want to keep an animal captive in a cage in a fake environment so that you can look at it and think how cute it is and laugh at its antics.

I never used to think like that. I had rabbits when I was a kid. Fish. My own kids had a hamster.

I just had a complete change of heart over the whole idea when I stopped to really think about it.

This.

It is horrible to keep any creature imprisoned in a cage. OP, teach your children to care about animals, not treat them as toys for their amusement.

Broodywuz · 27/01/2024 21:41

I know you said you don't like cats but they are so easy to look after and give so much more than any small furry (in my experience) We got a kitten and she's absolutely my daughters best friend.
No space needed for a cage and could easily be left for a few days with someone popping in once a day.

Beginningless · 27/01/2024 22:00

We are about to bring home 4 baby female rats, very excited. You should get watching some of the YouTube videos about training rats, they are incredible!

0nceMoreUntoTheBreach · 27/01/2024 22:01

We have had two hamsters and the thing we found out is that they have very strong personalities like people, so that the success of the venture depends massively on choosing an individual hamster that you can get on with.

Our first hamster was a lovely little lady, and was gentle and friendly. She could climb like spiderman and run miles if we hamster-proofed a room and let her loose. She used to shimmy up the back of the freezer and appear suddenly above our heads.

She was very ambitious and refused to stay in her cage when she was awake so we had a constant full time job supervising her on her missions around the house. She also liked to run up the gap between my legs which was quite surprising.

She was weirdly sociable. If we walked into a room where she was running free, she would appear from nowhere and run over to greet us, and then run off again to play. She was, in effect, a very tiny, hightly trained dog.

As you can probably predict, she unfortunately met her end in an accident, when our hamster-proofing failed. We were gutted.

Our second hamster was totally different. He was a big territorial male and he was not at all happy at all about being a pet. He didn't like to be handled and hated coming out of his cage. He smelt bad. He was more than double the size of the previous hamster. His testacles were so large that they have become and legend in our house.

One time I lifted him carefully and he bit me so hard that I needed a tetanus jab. After that we reached a mutual agreement that he would remain in his cage at all times, except during clean-out. I bought thick elbow-length gloves for those occassions. He was happy after that, and used to sit on his top shelf, looking like the lord of the manor. He would be there every evening, leaning on this elegant marble mantelpiece and regarding us, slightly disdainfully.

He did not come to a sticky end, but got an eye infection and was put to sleep.

We never got another hamster after that, because, quite frankly, we were knackered with the effort of living under all their rules.

They were very interesting though.

The hardest thing with hamsters, apart from living with them, is getting appropriate medical care when the are elderly. The vets expect them to be looked after like people, which is very expensive. Getting vets to put an elderly ill hamster to sleep is very very difficult, even if the hamster is very ill, and extremely difficult to care for because of being quite violent.

We always had loads of pets as children, but now I have no idea how my Mum did it. She must have had a much higher threshold for chaos than I do.

Cookerhood · 27/01/2024 22:35

Beginningless · 27/01/2024 22:00

We are about to bring home 4 baby female rats, very excited. You should get watching some of the YouTube videos about training rats, they are incredible!

We spent a lot of time training ours in lockdown. It was such fun, I loved those furry little things.

SallyWD · 27/01/2024 23:06

Caspianberg · 27/01/2024 20:12

Get a cat?

They are fun for children, and don’t live in a cage so actually sit with you, play games, sleep on children’s bed if allowed.
With a microchip cat flat they just go in and out as they please. We have an auto feeder so can easily leave 24hrs if needed or neighbour just pops in evening to give wet food and company.

we use trusted house sitters when away, so sitter stays at house. and cats are favourite to sit for as easy enough, just food and strokes.

Go to a rehoming place and get an older than kitten cat. Age 1-3 would be perfect.

I was going to say this. I hate the idea of any animals being caged. Cats are easy. We just have to feed mine and he goes to the toilet behind a bush in our garden. He's very cuddly and affectionate with the kids.

tabulahrasa · 27/01/2024 23:13

It wasn’t my choice to get cats, I’ve always had dogs and worked my way through mice, rats, hamster and guinea pigs when DP wanted to get a cat, couldn’t really say no after all those 😂

We ended up with 2 with a biggish age gap so currently just the one 13 yr old cat.

They’re honestly better pets than I ever gave them credit for.

Playful and affectionate but just much more chill company than dogs, both mine would come running if I called them, love to spend time with you, but equally if you go off out they just go sleep somewhere.

litter trays, couple of scratching posts, food, water and the odd toy mouse and they’re no bother at all.

For the little work you do, you get a lot more back than some keys that are much harder work.

MaMisled · 27/01/2024 23:24

Another vote for rats. As someone said, they're like little dogs, affectionate, clever, engaging and fun to watch. Their home needn't take up too much floor space, rats love climbing so a tall home will be easier to find space for.

Justhereforaibu1 · 27/01/2024 23:51

Don't get a degu, they piss out the side of the cage all over the walls 🤮

0nceMoreUntoTheBreach · 27/01/2024 23:56

If you get a hamster you can massively increase their fun by getting a big rat cage and then putting a drain pipe from the door down to a big plastic storage box with a locking lid. This is what we did. The drain pipe was the proper kind that the council use for road drains, so proof against rodent teeth. The locking box was just a big plastic storage box. It had a blackout blind over it to make if feel like it was underground. We had to put something in the pipe to let the hamster climb up. I think it was something like hemp rope because that was safe to be nibbled, but I can't remember. We made a 3D printed part to connect the pipe to the cage with no gaps. The hamster loved going down into its underground burrow.

Initially we had a children's paddling pool as an exercise area, but quite quickly our first hamster learned to jump out. The second hamster refused to go to the paddling pool after a while because he just wasn't that sociable.

HalloumiGeller · 28/01/2024 00:02

Get a Syrian hamster, they make lovely pets! My kids loved our hammie, she was super friendly and fun, and she lived to be 2.5 years old! I was actually quite sad when she died 😔. We could easily leave her for a weekend with a cleaned cage, full bowl of food and water.

hairypaws · 28/01/2024 00:14

I keep rats, currently have a mischief of 11 bucks. Absolutely adorable. A group of 3 would be perfect set up. I'd recommend coco large or mamble 100 cage. Coco large is easier to access and clean. I also recommend Azuline Rattery's book for ant rat owner. There is no other book with up to date info for rats.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 28/01/2024 00:39

@hairypaws

As you live with so many ratties can you post a picture of some hind feet?
I think they are amazing Grin
I did a search online but they were mainly front paws (which are cute too) or photos with has my rat got bumblefoot ?

No tails though - rat tails are just a bridge too far Wink
(I can see I was right to keep The Tail-Less Rodents )

QueenBitch666 · 28/01/2024 01:12

A rescue small animal. But be aware that most reputable rescues will not allow rescues out to households with children below a certain age for obvious reasons. Breeders will follow the money. Animals aren't toys to be messed around with and rescues have many animals that have been traumatised by abuse by children

QueenBitch666 · 28/01/2024 01:13

bozzabollix · 27/01/2024 18:37

Rats - absolutely brilliant pets. Really clever and characterful. If we didn’t have a cat now I’d get more.

Rats are beautiful creatures. I've have them in a heartbeat if I didn't have my rescue cats

QueenBitch666 · 28/01/2024 01:14

Justhereforaibu1 · 27/01/2024 18:56

Have you thought about a bearded dragon or something along those lines?

Usually illegally imported. As well as other exotic animals

ThePure · 28/01/2024 01:27

We had 3 lovely hammies
A Syrian and then two Siberian sisters who lived happily together until they passed.
Ours weren't completely nocturnal at all. They would be up and about when we were and sleep when we were out at work/ school. They learnt that people give you food and they would come and greet us at the cage door.
I can't say they were cuddly but they would nabber about on your lap and up a sleeve and when they got older they would sometimes fall asleep in your hand or in a pocket. I found them adorable to watch when they were building their nests.
Not much bother at all either. Don't smell and definitely able to be left for a long weekend.
All of ours passed in their sleep of old age.
I would have more hammies in a heartbeat.

Walking2024now24days · 28/01/2024 01:34

FairyBarr · 27/01/2024 18:17

Oh wow so many reply's - thank you all.

I don't think we want a rabbit or guinea pig, just too much space required. I understand hamsters also need lots of space - how about dwarf hamsters? Presumably these are smaller? I love the idea of rats or degus and will look into these in detail...

Nooooooo. Dwarf hamsters are just too small for children to manage. Too easily squished and too easy for them to wriggle loose & disappear.

my godson had a rat. He was a lovely wee chap! Once you get past the 'rat' thing! He had 2 to start with, but the other one died quite early on, the remaining one was pretty much free range & basically only in his cage overnight. You had to be careful not to sit anywhere before you checked where he was. He was really affectionate & loved being on your shoulder if you were standing & curled up on you anywhere if you were sitting. Loved to be hand fed.

a cat? Seems like a good option.

the older I get, the less I like the idea of caged pets.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 28/01/2024 01:44

I get the arguements against cages , my guineas had a wooden shed (it was 6'6" x 6'6") they had floor level hutches /hayboxes that were sleeping areas and they could wander round the floor space .
This was to keep them safe .

We gave them a hideybox that was made from an old bookcase with doors cut ( so in effect three square 'rooms' to pass through. )
Most of the time three of them were squished into the middle one .
In summer we took the hay out of the big sleeping area ( so they wouldn't overheat) and put it in a rubber trug with a door cut .
Two lardy boars squished inside the trug.

If they put themselves in there no issues .. If I put them in a box that size - speed dial to the Rescue .

Walking2024now24days · 28/01/2024 01:54

ThreeTreeHill · 27/01/2024 19:48

I personally would say rats if they want something they can pet and you don't have the space for GPs.

Problem is all animals really need space, even something small like hamsters/gerbils. I have gerbils and they are great, but they are flighty, you need to be gentle with them. And actually they have pretty much taken over my living room! Their cage isn't massive but they have a playpen that's quite big and whilst you can put it away I've given up.

@ThreeTreeHill

we got a playpen for our Syrian as she was a little horror for playing under the piano when it was time to go back in her cage. She scaled it in seconds. I swear she had extra sticky foot pads! Watching her climb the stairs was unreal, especially the first time when I thought she was contained safely in the hallway!

i still miss the wee girl!!

marshmallowfinder · 28/01/2024 03:07

StoatofDisarray · 27/01/2024 19:22

Guinea pigs are easy to handle they talk to you. (well they make greeting noises) and their sociable and friendly. Hamsters are loners who are nocturnal, and I've never found them to be good pets. I would always recommend a guinea pig or two.

Why would you ever recommend 1 guinea pig? They should never be kept alone. OP doesn't have enough space for guinea pigs.

homezookeeper · 28/01/2024 03:50

Mice or rats. Both have the most wonderful little personalities. The drawback is mice living only two years (if you're lucky) and rats four years (also if you're lucky). It's heartbreaking losing them.
Female mice and rats are less smelly than males. I've often read that males are more affectionate but having had experience with males and females from both species, there's not a big difference in affection. They definitely need to live as part of a group (at least 4 females).
I also have guinea pigs but no amount of time spent with them has ever resulted in a close relationship. Ditto with rabbits, mine are if anything, a pain in the bum.
I've had several hamsters, never developed a close relationship with them either.
I have ferrets too but they aren’t a pet for young kids as they take a lot of nip training before they stop biting and you can develop a relationship.

Pleasebeafleabite · 28/01/2024 06:19

QueenBitch666 · 28/01/2024 01:14

Usually illegally imported. As well as other exotic animals

Rubbish. Easy to breed, the reptile shops breed themselves

Beardies are a nice low effort pet, very tame if handled early