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Bunnies or more guinea pigs? Need to decide today!

73 replies

sanguinechompa · 14/05/2012 10:18

We're ready to acquire two new pets having lost, within three months of one another, our pair of beloved gps earlier in the year

I absolutely adore gps and would be happy to have more.

But I've unexpectedly lost my heart to a pair of nairn flop eared bunnies. They are reserved for me until 5pm today.

I've done lots of research and I know that these particular bunnies will require at least an hour's attention each day, they are much less robust than gps, they are more expensive to keep, less interactive with dc.

I shouldn't do it, should I??????

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funnypeculiar · 14/05/2012 22:47

Wheep, wheeep, whheeeeeeeeeeep!!

Bunnies and veg growing sounds like a very bad plan anyway Grin We have an allotment and take our two piggies down there most weekends - they have a run down there & hundreds of devoted fans who come over for a cuddle). Allotment a possibility to help with the broader country-need?

It took us months to find the right piggies - none of them looked right - daft but the minute I saw a photo of our girls I knew they were 'ours'!

sanguinechompa · 15/05/2012 11:10

Honestly, you lot, you are obsessed but there again so am I Love the idea of a 'heavenly chorus of wheeking' 70isalimit!!

Still have terrible hankerings this morning to phone bunny breeder back. Dh unimpressed.

I think you are right FunnyPeculiar - need to search for a while and find the 'right' piggies ...just haven't found 'em yet. Can totally understand it can take a while - not daft at all.

Allotment a good idea but very few and far between here - still - worth getting myself on a list I suppose if such a thing is poss ....need to investigate

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!

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sanguinechompa · 15/05/2012 20:50

Um, how, shall I put this ...

I went back to the bunny breeder today ....

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funnypeculiar · 15/05/2012 20:54

Oh you bad girl, after everything we said to you Grin

(Are they home with you now? Are they bea-u-ti-ful?!?!)

Nospringflower · 15/05/2012 20:54

Oh good was just reading this and thinking I would definitely go for bunnies - much more character and none of that bloody squeakingWink. Have you got them now!0? How exciting!

BonkeyMollocks · 15/05/2012 21:37

Shock Grin

Pics please!!

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 15/05/2012 21:42

went back to the bunny breeder today .........
And they said "Tough, I told you 5pm Monday was your deadline and now the bunnies are in a rabbit stew have gone to a lovely bunny mad family.

So I've got some guinea-pigs to view tommorrow.

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nospring I love that bloody squeaking - it's my little boys 'talking' to me !

BonkeyMollocks · 15/05/2012 21:44

Grin @ 70

I'm getting used to the wheeking now....tis rather comforting of a evening Grin

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 15/05/2012 21:48

Have your GPs stopped trying to get "in touch" with each other?

Is GP still Rumblestrutting ?

BonkeyMollocks · 15/05/2012 21:58

Big pig is still rumbling but not so much humping. We have had a few bum shakes though Grin
Little pig still chases him though so he's obviously not to worried.
They seem to be getting on great, do everything together, t'is very cute :)

I have written a complaint to the manager of the pet shop about them being sold alone. After seeing how much happier big pig is with a friend I think its wrong. He could have had a lonely unhappy life with someone who took the pet shops word as bible Angry

sanguinechompa · 15/05/2012 22:20

Arf at all of you Grin particularly rumblestrutting, bum-shaking and- stew

We will be picking them up tomorrow.

To be honest, I am slightly nervous because of the responsibility and newness of it (I'm an old hand at gps but bunnies require more detailed care and despite lots of research, are a bit of an unknown to me. They are also four times the size of my old gps!!) but remember feeling the same when gps first arrived. Am fully aware of all the downsides and know we have to put the effort in to make their lives/accommodation/care as rabbit-centred as poss. Breeder is being very helpful (spent 2 hours with her today when she let me handle and care for other bunnies and let me ask all the questions on my very long list!) and I have her and a bunny-owning friend on speed-dial.

Rushing tonight to get accommodation in order ...will post pics asap ...

Have discovered this site great for gps and bunnies alike....

Take a look at readers' "layouts" (a bit like readers' wives but with more tubing Wink )

Agree Bonkey that no 'herd' animal should be sold to live alone ...Sad

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 15/05/2012 22:26

Definately write to Pet Shop management.
If they kept their boars together then people would be more inclined to buty a bonded pair/sibling pair.
And the boars would be happier in a group.
Only problem would be if they get 'old' before they sell, a group of boars would lead to some in house bickering compared to two.

We go to Pets @ Home (DD likes looking at the baby hogs and I sometimes buy hay if I can't park near The Range- I buy 2-3 bags a week) they have information posters that GPs need to be a pair. And boars are friendlier than sows. Depends on the pigs IME.
And I overheard a salesman when a lady came into buy a pig (one pig) and the first thing he asked was "Do you have a GP at home" -which she did.

The Pet Shop definately needs to review their sales advice and animal keeping policies.

Grin to hear GPs are settling down. The rumblesrtutting and bumwiggling still goes on. My boars are un-neutered and do very peacock like show-off displays to each other. (Brothers 18 months old)

BonkeyMollocks · 15/05/2012 22:37

I have just had a look at that link! Shock at some of the tunnels, very impressive! Grin

What i don't get about my pet shop is that its independent, one of three stores, the other stores sell the boars as pairs. Confused

Anyway, i am boycotting on behalf of the pigs, luckily we have another good one close by :)

Pic of piggies on profile ignore the monkeys Grin

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 15/05/2012 22:40

the Runaround tunnel system looks good sanguine.

Our hogs have a wooden playhouse (my DCs old housey) and a rabbit run 7'x4', I could get DH to cut a hole in the wall of the house and attatch a tunnel to the side door of the run. He'd have to put a cat door type door on the pighouse for safety, but it would give them the option of ourdoor time when ^they want it.

I wouldn't have a clue when it came to rabbits but it sounds like you have a good support team Grin and there's loads of threads on SuperFurryAnimals to trawl through.
You'll need to get yourself a good bunny vet for the neutering and innoculations.
Ask the breeder which vet they use.
Enjoy the bunny rabbits Grin

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 15/05/2012 22:42

Pigs look gorgeous bonkey. Aaaaaaawwww! Wink

silver73 · 15/05/2012 23:54

Actually the pet shop advice goes against what the RSPCA say so I think this is a very serious matter as you say so many pigs could be sold alone.

www.rspca.org.uk/allaboutanimals/pets/rodents/guineapigs/company

Could you send a copy of your letter to the RSCPA or let them know in another way? I think people selling pigs should be aware of the facts and they may be more inclined to listen to the RSPCA. The RSPCA mention the Animal Welfare Act

www.rspca.org.uk/allaboutanimals/pets/rodents/guineapigs

silver73 · 15/05/2012 23:55

sorry here is the link to the Animal Welfare Act www.rspca.org.uk/allaboutanimals/pets/rodents/guineapigs

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 16/05/2012 00:40

The first link recommmends neutering for non breeding males which goes against all the GP sites which advice against neutering unless it's for medical or contraceptive purposes.
It doesn't alter behaviour, it carries a risk from the anaesthetic.
Hopefully if someone took their boar to be snipped just because then they would be adviced against .

funnypeculiar · 16/05/2012 08:58

Post photos once they're home won't you not that I care of course Sounds like you've got a fab breeder, btw Smile

silver73 · 16/05/2012 10:41

I put the link up to highlight that GPs should not live on their own and that is the point that the pet shop was getting wrong and needs to be addressed

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 16/05/2012 11:57

I'm not disagreeing with you silver I'm just pointing out because this is an RSPCA site and my boars reckon it would contravene their animal rights to go through unneccesary surgery on the say so of the RSPCA.
I know rabbits (male and female) need neutered for health and behaviour reasons. But I wouldn't want someone to take their GP to the vet, who says "OK I'll do it £65 please" on the say so of the RSPCA website

(I asked someone how much she paid for her GP to be operated on IIRC £68.

sanguinechompa · 17/05/2012 13:20

Hello everyone

Just reporting in

Collected bunnies yesterday afternoon and they are absolutely gorgeous ...their distinct personalities are already beginning to show!

I had a sleepless night on Tuesday before they arrived having been warned about the fact that a change of diet and environment, might cause them not to eat or drink ...or cause a stomach upset .... but they were both eating and drinking happily within 30 minutes of arrival. Phew! The responsibility is fairly daunting given my level of inexperience. I'm keeping to the same diet as the breeder for the moment, and then she suggested trying them out with a tiny piece of carrot on day 3. Does this sound right to all of you?

My only slight concerns are the fact that I haven't seen the male drink today as yet (75% sure he is a 'he' but as yet unconfirmed) and the issue that you all warned me about - ie picking them up. They have had their first couple of sessions exploring our sitting room and terrace (can't go on lawn yet until they are vaccinated on Monday) and yet when we come to pick them up to put them back in their cage, they run away, struggle and kick and seem very traumatised by the process, however gentle and careful we are.

I remember having this issue with the gps when they first arrived but they soon got used to being scooped up by us ...the rabbits ...even at this age ..are much stronger and more wriggly. Do they ever get habituated to being picked up?

I think we should try to vary things and ensure that "being picked up" doesn't always mean "being put back in cage" but also "being given a treat" or "being put down to run about on lawn".

Even worse, when I put the female back in her cage the first time, she shook uncontrollably for about 2 minutes Sad She's fine now but it's a bit unnerving to say the least.

If the male doesn't drink by this evening, I have a syringe of 'special nutrition' available for him. Heaven knows how I will adminster this though if it becomes necessary.

I will be leaving them quietly alone for the rest of the day but they really seemed to enjoy stretching their legs. Just from their first circuits around the room, sniffing and stretching and exploring everywhere, I can see how much space and stimulation they are going to need.

And I also felt Sad because even though I bought them from a very reputable and knowledgeable breeder, the cages they were in weren't huge and the male rabbit took a while to 'get his back legs' under him on our parquet. I think he had been so cramped that his muscles weren't being stretched properly. I can see how important it is that they get sufficient exercise.

Any advice or comments on above gratefully received. Although I have rabbit-knowledgeable contacts on standby, I still feel as though I am walking on eggshells with them at the moment ...v. anxious about their welfare atm.

Photos to follow when I can (a) find the camera and (b) work out how to upload [technophobe ignoramus emoticon]

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trilottie · 17/05/2012 13:39

I'm excited you went for the bunnies in the end! We have a house bunny and I don't think i could live without him.
Regarding the drinking - Smudge doesn't drink very much at all, i rarely see him drink so i wouldn't worry too much. If you're that worried you can sprinkle water on their veg as this gives them a bit more hydration.
Smudge very slowly came round to being picked up, it takes time so be patient. Even now, at 6 years old, sometimes he's just not in the mood. I always give a (v small) treat after he's been picked up too. re treats - obviously not too many but he likes fresh fruit, dried fruit, bran flakes, malt loaf (!)
Oh and we have been to the vet for problems about twice in all this time (plus jabs) so as long as you look after them there's no reason you'll be living in the vets. (Touches wood).
While you have them in your arms check their bottoms and see if they're cleaning themselves properly. A clean rabbit is a happy rabbit :)
enjoy!
Also, there's some really good books around - 'The House Rabbit Handbook' is a good one.

BonkeyMollocks · 17/05/2012 14:06

Congrats on you bunny baby's :)

Re. the being picked up, my (childhood) rabbits have always hated it. I think its a prey animal thing. Gp's hate it to for the same reason. Ours are happy once they are on a lap but any carrying they bury their heads in my jumper until I'm sat! They may get used to it in time, they may not. Have you tried sitting with them and letting them come to you? Once they are more confident and settled they may tolerate being picked up much more than they do now.

I wouldn't worry about the drinking to much. Have they got a bowl or a bottle? Is it they same as they had with the breeder? My little g pig will refuse to drink out of a bottle even though he knows what its there for and will only sip out of a bowl because its what he is used to and he's a pain

Have you got anywhere where you can leave their hutch open so they can come and go as they please for a while? Again, its all confidence.

Give them time to settle, they are still in a new place so very scary in their eyes and take it slowly and they will be fine :)

BonkeyMollocks · 17/05/2012 14:14

Oh and re. the pet shop dilemma, I have emailed the owner of the shops and raised my concerns both about the boars being kept alone and about the inaccurate advice that I was given by the manager of the shop big pig was from, both the day he was bought and the week after when I went back and asked about companionship and the fact that he was hiding all the time. She told me he was fine on his own and to take away his hidey holes, I'm assuming this was to force him into dealing with a new place Shock

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