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hamster or gerbils?

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Aranea · 22/11/2010 20:37

I would like to get a pet for my 6yo. I'm thinking of a hamster or a couple of gerbils. Can anybody enlighten me as to the pros and cons of each? I tend to think of hamsters as a bit less interesting than gerbils, but maybe that's a good thing!

She'd have it in her bedroom - I don't know whether gerbils might be quieter at night?

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Stillconfounded · 23/11/2010 20:18

Aranea In answer to your earlier post about gps :

Do guinea pigs need to come out for exercise then?
You won't find a book that says they need x amount of exercise a day but obviously it helps if they are not cooped up in a cage all the time (for their mental and physical health). In the summer, ours go out for the majority of the day but you must provide shelter for them in a shady place with plenty of water as they cannot perspire and are prone to heat stroke if they get too hot.

If you don't have a walled garden then, for security, it's best to a wooden hutch with a fairly large wire run attached and you can just keep repositioning that around the lawn for them to graze.

In the winter, ours are indoors for the majority of the time, but you could house them in an outdoor shed or a hutch on a terrace that is lifted up off the damp floor and - in very cold weather - is covered with a warm tarpaulin or bit of carpet to keep out the worst of the weather.

However they are housed, they need as much light and fresh air as possible. But they are quite susceptible to drafts so they musn't be in a windy spot.

The benefits of keeping them indoors in the winter is that you don't have to keep going out in the freezing cold to feed and clean them out! Also, they don't go "feral" if they are in constant contact with their human family.

What are their needs?

Their needs are pretty basic. Good housing. (Mine live on "Cat's best cat litter" - which is like compressed straw pellets - it keeps down any smell (they don't smell much at all if cleaned out regularly - just a nice, sweet, hay-type smell!) and they seem happy with it - but I live abroad and don't know what brands are available in the UK) You can also put them on hay or straw (put newspaper under all of the bedding) They need clean fresh water at all times, plus fresh food once a day and dry food once a day. They also need a constant supply of fresh hay (readily available in easily transportable bags from pet shops) in a hay bale. They need to eat constantly and can never over-eat hay.

Every so often - I do it three or four times a year, I give them a bit of a bath and a pedicure! All approp. equip available in pet shops.

GPs quite like a nice routine so I give mine fresh food in the evening, hard food in the morning and they actually have a set bedtime of 11.30pm!! Mine also squeak if I am late with their breakfast or they hear the fridge door opening!

Are they going to be harder work for me than gerbils/hamster when dd gets past her initial flush of enthusiasm?

No, I've kept all three and gps are by far the easiest to keep. They do eat and poo a lot but they more or less keep themselves clean and don't require much other maintenance. We handle ours regularly and they lift their heads up and squeak when they need to be put back in their cage for a bathroom break!! When they were young, they did pee a bit on the floor but don't now. (You can clean up any pee with vinegar and water.) Obviously, don't get a sow and a boar together or you will have lots of babies to look after!! Generally, they are very sweet and passive and good to have around. Most owners become very attached to them!

Once they were fully grown, we did leave ours unattended for 2.5 days over a weekend (we put two hay bales and two drinking bottles on cage and provided loads of hay and dried food, and although I wouldn't normally risk it, tbh, I think they would have been fine for another day). However, if you go away for longer than that, you need someone to check on them and top up feed etc.

They live between 5 and 7 years. They can grow quite big! Two sows together are a good combination. We chose two sows that seemed happy together in the cage in the pet shop and although they sometimes get a little stroppy with one another, they seem to get on fine!

A good book such as this will tell you all you need to know.

I wouldn't recommend buying them at Christmas - get them at a time when they can settle in gently and when it's calm and quiet in the house.

HTH! (As you can tell, I am totally besotted with mine!)

Stillconfounded · 23/11/2010 20:22

Oh, one last thing, you do need to check their teeth regularly and give them lots of things (small fruit tree branch, hard feed) to chew on to keep their teeth, ground down, otherwise it interferes with their eating and you have to go to the vet to get their teeth clipped. I've never had to do this yet though - not necessary if they have the right diet.

mememe30 · 23/11/2010 20:24

We have rats. Much better than hamsters and gerbils. They come out and sit on your shoulder. They go back into their cage to have a wee and poo. Come out every night for a wander round. At the moment one is sat on the keyboard watching me!!!!

Jbck · 23/11/2010 20:41

earwicga good to know about the degus. Local pet shop had two rescue ones earlier this summer but no reason on their little card, maybe they were full of the unsavoury characteristics.

Aranea · 23/11/2010 21:19

thanks so much for all of that info stillconfounded. They sound adorable!

I've been trying to get some sense out of dd this evening regarding why she actually wants a pet, given that she doesn't really seem massively animal obsessed when we actually meet any.

She says she wants to be responsible for looking after something. (In fact she said a child would do, in hopeful tones Hmm)

She started off by saying hamsters were good pets but ended up saying she didn't think they did anything interesting and that really cats and dogs were good pets. I don't think I'm up for that at the moment.

Just to go off on a tangent, does anyone know anything about budgies?? Someone suggested that they were quite fun to keep and I rather like the idea of having a bird in the kitchen! Maybe I'll start a budgie thread.

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earwicga · 23/11/2010 21:34

Budgies are fab. Mine sings all day and is ringing it's little bell as I type :) I think if you get a young one you can train it up. Mine was too old when it was donated to me so it won't even come out the cage. Zebra finches are lovely too - I had them years ago. Just make sure you get a big enough cage.

Ha ha to your daughter's 'hopeful tone' :) Perhaps she just wants one of those animated animaly things. My kids are after them but I've pointed out they have real animals that they ignore.

Aranea · 23/11/2010 22:35

Hm, I've been doing a bit of budgie reading, and I quite like the sound of them. Am a bit nervous though, as i've never had a pet bird.

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Stillconfounded · 23/11/2010 22:37

Aw, is she an only child Aranea? She sounds very bright. It's so difficult at this age because they do change their minds such a lot!

My 'only' asks for a brother and sister all the time Sad. Gps are great but don't feel that particularly gap! Too late for us now - we would get a dog but we live in a built up town and I only really like dogs in a country setting (too much dog poo on pavements here already).

You really can't fail with a gp but you will end up looking after it. My 7 yr old does feed ours everyday (when prompted) but doesn't really do alot else except try to teach them to "sit"!!

A budgie sounds fun - we had one who lived with a nun at school - it could recite the Hail Mary!

Good luck with whatever you choose!

Oh and lol at Mememe's rat sitting on the keyboard!

Aranea · 23/11/2010 23:00

No, she's got a 2yo sister! She spends quite a lot of time pretending to be dd2's mummy, which is slightly weird for me.

She does indeed change her mind all the time, so I think I'll need to try and make the best decision I can on her behalf. It's tricky as I am also a bit concerned about dd2's presence. She's very very keen on animals and, being 2, can get a bit carried away. My friend's cat got fed up and bit her recently.

Oh, maybe I should leave the whole thing for a year or so.

I'm interested by the toilet-trained rats though. I remember my sister's rat as being a bit on the smelly side (and as I mentioned, he did pee on people).

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Stillconfounded · 23/11/2010 23:19

It is a difficult decision. I think gps would survive handling by an enthusiastic 2 yr old as long as she's not too rough. They'll squeak if it gets too much for them!

Why not throw caution to the wind and go all the way Grin

Aranea · 24/11/2010 20:24

Now that's really more my style actually. I could get much more fired up about having a quarter horse in the kitchen!

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Stillconfounded · 25/11/2010 09:49
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