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Is there really much difference between between box dye and salon dye?

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AaronPurrSir · 28/12/2017 17:29

Just that really. I’ve had my hair exclusively dyed in the salon for the last year after decades of box dyes. I’m really grey and my roots show after about 3 weeks, and I can’t be dealing with the time and expense of salon touch ups every months.

Every hairdresser practically breaks out in hives whenever box dye is mentioned and talk about how “awful” it is. Is it really that bad? Surely there’s very little difference between shop bought and what they use in salons, or do they just make out that there is to get you to keep spending money in the salon?

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Frequency · 30/12/2017 14:13

Your hairdressers really aren't trying to rip you off when they tell you salon colours are better than box dyes. They genuinely believe it because it is what they are taught.

Hairdressing courses are delivered by colour houses. I train at a Wella Center of Ellexcence. We are taught that Wella is the bees knees and everything else pales in comparison. The salon I help out in on a Saturday morning, the boss was trained by L'Oreal. They use L'oreal products because nothing else compares.

If you look at advanced colouring courses, which hairdressers take after graduating college, they are delivered by colour houses www.capitalhairandbeauty.co.uk/training/cutting-colour-courses

I'm on an adult learners course, so as soon as we were taught that box dye is the Devil's work, our immediate response was "Why?" The tutor, also taught by a colour house, could only reply that the developer was different, box dyes use a stronger developer than is necessary for most hair types. It wouldn't cover grey if it didn't.

Hairdressers then see hordes of people with a build-up of dull, flat box dyes which cements their notion of box dyes being the Devil's work but this isn't the fault of the product, it's the application. When I used to use box dye, like another poster and many, many other people, I'd just slap it all over my hair regardless of whether it was just my roots that needed doing. It builds up leaving the colour dull and flat but a salon brand would do the same if it was applied that way.

There is a skill to colour that a home colourist won't have been taught eg understanding the different levels and tones and how they interact with the base colour and which developers are best for which hair type, so the results from a salon should be better but this is skill not product. If you are darker and/or stick within the same level, there is no reason (other than application) why a box dye won't look as good as a salon colour.

Although, Wella's quasi colour is super, super glossy. I've never had the same shine from a box colour. It might have just been the shade and the client's hair but I'd kill for shine like that. I don't get it from the perm colour I use (also Wella).

It's the same with Henna. We are taught to always take a test cutting and check for metallic salts if someone has used Henna because Henna has metallic salts in. I questioned this myself because as a young, dumb teen when I was asked if I had Henna on I lied my ass off and my hair didn't burn off when I permed my henna'd hair. Plus, how does a plant contain metal? It made no sense, so I researched it myself and learned that most henna colours have metallic salts in them but the all natural ones (such as Lush) don't. Saying that, if you are asked if you have Henna on, don't lie. Let the salon take a test cutting and do their thing. A chemical reaction with metallic salts is pretty violent and not something you want happening while your hair is attached to your scalp. It literally smokes and fizzes.

AwayAndStuffYourself · 30/12/2017 14:35

I recently had my roots redone at the hairdressers. First time I hadn't done it myself for a long time. It cost considerably more than doing it at home, she missed some bits (was a trainee, so that's understandable) and she didn't get any less dye around my hairline than I do myself using a box kit (the one bit I was really looking forward to enjoying). It didn't last any longer and wasn't any different in terms of colour. The only difference was that my hair was in slightly better condition at the end, but that could be down to me using cheaper dyes (going to switch to the foam dye recommended on this thread). I honestly can't see any real reason to go back and pay a great deal more for that small difference.

Branleuse · 30/12/2017 18:15

Ive had my hair dyed professionally a few times and it looked nice, but it also looks nice when i colour it myself, but it depends on which dye i use. I think you just have to find one that suits your hair.

I also hate how long it takes at a hairdresser and the whole faff of having to make an appointment and wait for something, and then its a looong appointment, and it costs a small fortune. The box dye I like is about £7, im done in half an hour or an hour, at my own convenience, and it both looks and feels nice.
If I was going to spend that sort of money on my looks it wouldnt be on dye

ChristmasAtSquiffanys · 30/12/2017 18:37

A friend of mine uses esalon, you get sent your personal colour every 4 to 6 weeks.
She's had it copper, cranberry and plum at different times so they don't just do natural shades

AnnaMagnani · 30/12/2017 20:30

So it's obvious it's dyed then?

Well, if I'm talking to a couple and the man has grey hair and the woman has a fine head of chestnut or black hair with no greys at all, despite clearly being much the same age as him, yes it's obvious it's dyed.

When I'm talking to any woman over 50 with no greys, I just assume her hair is dyed.

elainaj · 09/04/2020 16:16

If anyone comes back to this I just want to clarify that there's a huge difference. The main thing is that the developer volume is so high in box dye that it will damage you hair, if you're not grey. If you are grey then you're going to need a high developer volume anyways. But what exactly happens is the developer lifts the cuticle in order to penetrate the cortex to permanently add color to the hair. Now if you constantly use high developers and don't recondition your hair and add protein back into it then you will eventually have not cuticle layer, therefore destroying your hair and causing breakage. When this happens all you can do is cut your hair.

TKAAHUARTG · 12/04/2020 02:07

I think blonde is hard to do at home. Most box dyes are too yellow, think Holly Willoughby.

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