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Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!

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TossDaily · 28/12/2017 11:00

Excuse the franglais.

Here it is - the third thread in the series, where we add a little je ne sais quoi to our lives, inspired by the style of our souers across the Channel.

Thanks to our top contributor and style guru Botemp, we are finding ways to lift ourselves out of the style doldrums with a slash of red on the lips, a touch of white where it counts, an insouciant scarf or even an over the knee sock or two for the brave among us.

Take it as far as you dare, Mariannes!

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TheGrumpySquirrel · 22/01/2018 08:30

Outfit sounds great cactus ! I'm so fed up of the cold here.

TheGrumpySquirrel · 22/01/2018 08:32

My BMB v neck grey jumper is amazing btw. So pleased.

Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
TheGrumpySquirrel · 22/01/2018 08:33

The sleeves are tight so it looks neater than a big oversized boyfriend jumper

ToElleWithIt · 22/01/2018 09:09

Methenyouplusfour Lipsticks sounds great. You're all making me very keen to visit Kiko. I'm over in London in 2 weeks’ time so I'll have to find one.

Botemp jeans are a lovely style on you, but I can see that the fit is off. I don't think I can wear that style. Speaking of Cos I'm another one who gets so frustrated with their website. I've had success with finding things in their bricks and mortar stores, but I do the vast majority of my shopping online these day and I'd like to have a hit ratio better than "needle in haystack" when I'm ordering.

The other girl I did a try-on of my jeans last night. I have two pairs of white jeans. The first cropped paid are okay. I'm not so sure about the bootcut / flared pair. I feels like I should be able to make them work, but can't figure out the shoes. Wait 'til summer probably! I also think both would fit a little bit better if I lost a couple of pounds so I was the same size I was when I bought them as they're a bit tight. Any thoughts wise Parisiennes?

Re Marie Kondo I agree with properlavs and cactusbutt that it's definitely not about a capsule wardrobe, but about properly assessing what you have and why. I have not Kondo'd my whole house, but I read the book and found it really helpful for rationalising my wardrobe. It made way more sense to me than the idea of "throw out something if you haven't worn it in a year" or " every item of clothing must work in 3 outfits" ideas for de-cluttering. It made me think about my clothes and what they meant to me. It made sense to me because it explained to me why I keep a good few party dresses. I adore them and even though I don't "party" much anymore, it makes me smile to see them hanging up and remembering how great I felt in them. It rationalises keeping the beautifully made heels that don't get many outings, but are a work of art. Obviously it makes sense in the context of the great jeans, the super flattering t-shirt, but it is a flexible approach. If clothes are generally a source of joy for you through a love of fashion or craftsmanship or both, then you will likely still have a large wardrobe post-KM. What is did for me though was give me the reason to let go of expensive mistakes. In general for me this was clothes that were fairly high fashion, but just too much for me. I wanted to be the kind of person who wore them, but always felt uncomfortable and even if they came back into fashion I doubt I'd feel comfortable in them. I enjoyed her thoughts on the purchase of such items providing some joy and the idea of wearing them providing joy even if the actual wearing of them didn’t, so that they had now fulfilled their purpose for me and to let them go. I did join some Facebook groups at the time I was doing them and left shortly after because I saw the exact same thing that some of you are referring to, people using the method as an excuse for even more consumerism. That was a bit uncomfortable - "I've thrown out all my cookware because it wasn't sparking joy and replaced it with a huge collection of matching Le Creuset at a cost of thousands". This seemed to be most prevalent in the US ( I generalise of course). Anyhow, that’s my 2 cent on the method.

TheGrumpySquirrel LOVE the jumper, what’s BMB?

3asabird I don’t know if it’s French advice, but on maternity clothes I would stay out of them as long as possible. They are mostly where style goes to die! I had good success in the 2nd trimester buying regular clothes in inexpensive shops just a size up. A fitted jersey dress, or head to Cos where the A-line tops and blouses and trapeze dresses will see you to the end of your pregnancy. I wore mostly jersey dresses to work with my normal jackets over them. I never button them so just left them open as usual. I couldn’t find a nice maternity coat so just wore my normal one and filled the gap with a scarf – admittedly might not work in the depths of winter. For casual two good pairs of maternity jeans and tops from Cos were pretty much my uniform.

botemp Leather skirt pictures attached. Stuck on a white t-shirt so you can see where the waistband sits.It’s about 1.5 – 2 inches below my natural waist which is fine by me as otherwise it would be very short. If you want it to sit shorter I’d suggest sizing down so it sits higher.

Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
CatherineMaitland · 22/01/2018 09:13

Love the grey jumper GrumpySquirrel.

I have been following this account on instagram - liketk.it/2ujIq - and enjoying the looks/attitudes within.

TheGrumpySquirrel · 22/01/2018 09:26

BMB = by malene birger
Sizing is huge so I got XX Small

Theshipsong · 22/01/2018 10:20

Does anyone know where Grumpy bought that grey v neck jumper? I have googled BMB and can’t come up with the answer.

The Other Stories sand colour coat arrived and I have returned it. I took a lot of photos of myself trying it on in different angles and the overall look was frumpy and the colour didn’t do anything for me sadly. I’m too pale and it is a coat,I feel, that has to be dressed up and worked with to look good and for me, clothing has to be at least passable on me without too much effort. I was reluctant to return it but it just didn’t suit me or my size 12 hips!

TQBD · 22/01/2018 11:11

I was chatting to a lovely French lady at a work thing yesterday and she was showing me a really stunning French lady with red hair who was a princess or had won a beauty princess pageant type show. Does anyone have any idea who she is?

Theshipsong · 22/01/2018 11:47

Is it Delphine Wespiser?

botemp · 22/01/2018 12:46

Canters- ah that's my least liked dress code. It's great for men (Hugo Boss dress jeans and a shirt and leather shoes and they're bloody done, add a merino jumper in the winter) but for women it's this tightrope of not 'dressing like you're too good for this place' and not being too casual. It makes the accessories the only place to have fun with IMO, I think ankle boots are very popular in this genre but that also makes them a bit stale, but probably hard to avoid with the weather as it is. I think the French 'Salome' (T-bar) pumps and flats are quite good for this when the weather is not sodding wet as they can work with opaques without looking odd and you're not flashing toes when there's a rare bit of good weather. They're essentially formal but still playful, I think the thin laced Bobbies I linked to earlier also would be versatile where a proper brogue would perhaps feel too formal.

WRT emotional purchases, I think they're just as necessary sometimes. There's a huge distance between an emotional purchase that's just an immediate response and always going to shop when you're feeling down. Provided you know the difference and your limits, I'm not a fan of demonising emotional purchases just because of the extremes.

Weird synchronicity, I just took delivery of a pair of Levis 501 on Saturday Shock. It's the last thing I expected to ever buy as it is the worst fit ever on my 5'4 hourglass frame, straight wide fit, distressed, no stretch, terrible fit at the waist, flattens the bum, etc. I had seen it in the shop, thought they were boyfriend jeans and quickly put them back when I saw they were a 501 fit. SA intervened and convinced me to try them on 'upsized' (first time I heard that term but it seems to be a Levi's thing Hmm), promising it would sit low rise and like a boyfriend. Good thing she did as they did exactly that. Didn't buy them in store as their return policy only gave store credit, and since they're a bit out there by my denim standards I wanted a good fitting session with them at home. I'm still deciding but since I bought from Zalando I have a very generous 100 days to consider it. Think I have some pics on my phone, I'll upload them later if I remember or get reminded.

Thanks, Tana, but really no need for it Smile. Yeah, 'capsule' wardrobes aren't exactly new (see also: uniform). I think my own issues with them conceptually is that they disregard the emotional aspect above and are all about efficiency. I think you need a bit of both and neither in excess. It's always interesting to see how the tendencies of time influence that historically, so when there's a lot of chaos or underlying tensions in that calm before the storm phase (wars or financial crises), efficiency suddenly becomes really important in response and anticipation.

Flo, I'm not into weddings at all but I love the photography exactly for the reasons you describe. No matter how tasteful (and preferably not, those I adore) they're the best carbon daters ever when it comes to style.

I think getting bored with clothes has its good bits too, for me rediscovering something usually involves wearing it completely different way or even as a completely different garment (eg. shirt becomes a a skirt or a jacket, etc.).

DavidPuddy, your username has reminded me Elaine had some fab leather blazers once she got the more fancy jobs. Must have a google image search sometime.

3Asabird, that's a really long list to all tackle at once. Considering everything you have going on I think it would be best to concentrate on what's important now. eg. there's only about 1.5 months of winter left and you're in the midst of pregnancy so I struggle to see a need for leather leggings, especially if you're interested in wide legged silhouettes as that changes up the rest of your wardrobe too. I'd say focus on what's important now, I'm sorry I can't answer the entire list it's just far too much to tackle in one go.

WRT French pregnancies, yes, they're very careful about their diet, very concerned about gaining too much and eating the wrong kind of foods and they get professional guidance for that. It's the same here, although no physio unless you actually have issues. They also do quite a bit of light exercise, the pilates prenatal class at the place I go to is pretty much all French expats and the odd Spanish one. Much like their approach to food, it's not this pendulum of gain and loss but rather a consistent management.

Pretty much as others said, they wear their own clothes for as long as possible and then switch to wider fits rather than get specific maternity wear, they don't really dress up the bump as is popular elsewhere.

Other, have you tried layering colours of lipsticks to get a better match. No need to get rid of them when they don't work straight away, I often layer by default as I have lipsticks in my bag and on my vanity and never bother to move one to the other in a systematic way.

Elle, I love the Raey skirt on you! It looks amazing with the shoes as well. It does confirm it would be too long for me though and the smallest size is my size so I can't size down.

IME white bootcuts work best with summer footwear (if anyone is interested I just bought these bargainous K. Jacques sandals from Matches with an extra 20% off with code EXTRA20). I have a pair of tan Acne pistols that work well with white bootcuts/flares but it still reads very summery.

cactus, despite knowing what the Soeur skirt looks like, I love the imagery that the 'bronze velvet' descriptor conjures.

BMB is By Malene Birger, I really like her knitwear, it lasts for ages (it's not 100% natural fibres, it's about 30% man made usually, which I actually appreciate as that's what makes it keep so well) they're quite pricey in that sense at full price but the Outnet usually has some of last year's at reduced prices. Link for Grumpy's sweater.

Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
Theshipsong · 22/01/2018 13:10

The charcoal jumper is very nice but so far beyond my budget sadly. Charcoal fir some reason seems to be a difficult colour to find. There seems to be a huge amount of light grey and marl. I recently bought and returned a charcoal coloured jumper to Cos, a shame really as I had high hopes for it.

TheGrumpySquirrel · 22/01/2018 13:16

Thanks for linking bo

Who was it who went on a pink lipstick testing spree? How did you get on?

Tanaqui · 22/01/2018 13:19

That skirt looks great on you Elle, and I think the bootcut jeans might work with converse or flip flops, and maybe a vest top to make the upper body more streamlined against the wider hems? You also look very young (at least your arms do!), maybe I just feel old!

I love that jumper- I can’t do oversize without looking like a barrel, and I think the fitted arms might work well. But I do have a lot of grey jumpers so should restrain myself!

I used to love the fit of 501s on me, might have to go and try some on!

Tanaqui · 22/01/2018 13:20

Oh, someone wanted a Kiko in London- I walked past one by Victoria station, but couldn’t go in because I had dh with me! It was between the station and House of Fraser, if that helps.

botemp · 22/01/2018 13:22

Ship, have you tried the men's sections? They usually have loads of charcoal. The COS men's section is quite good, they're also not oversized by default. H&M usually has a bit of charcoal knitwear online, in the premium selection. They have this one currently but it's very much oversized, there's also a Merino v-neck but it's more a dark grey than a proper charcoal.

I've just realised I'll be in Paris this time next week and haven't even considered what I'm going to pack or what the weather's like Shock

quirkychick · 22/01/2018 13:53

I did try some Levi's on in the sales the other week, reduced down to £25, I think they were 714s, straight, one in grey and one in blue. They were 30s, looked lovely but were really too big. I might have a look on zalando. I'm currently in a secondhand pair of gap jeans, indigo, slightly bootleg but slightly slouchy too. Another charity shop bargain.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who forgets to take lipsticks from my bedroom to my bag Grin.

I think those white bootlegs would look lovely with sandals, probably some with a little weight rather than too delicate?

ToElleWithIt · 22/01/2018 14:48

Tanaqui thanks - I'm staying really near there so I'll call in.

theshipsong Arket merion but style is very different to Grumpsquirrel's jumper

Thanks for the tips on the white jeans, will wait 'til summer and maybe try with some chunky-ish sandals.

Theshipsong · 22/01/2018 14:50

Thanks Bo. The H&M are oversized but I will keep an eye on the men’s section. That’s something I never thought of doing.

ProperLavs · 22/01/2018 16:25

I found a pair of faux leather H&M leggings in a charity shop for £5. They fitted perfectly at a size 34 BUT the length. They were sort of cropped, just above my ankle but actually looked like I was just wearing some one else's trousers iyswim?
What a shame.
Anyway they have rekindled my lust for a proper leather pair.

Peed off with all my gap stuff. Their sizing is just so random. I have no idea what size I am supposed to be. A size 2 will be hanging off me in one style and far too small in another.
It's like H&M really, pot luck sizing.
Back they go.

quirkychick · 22/01/2018 16:42

Proper I had an H&M faux LL a few years ago, the fabric was lovely but they were biker style with diagonal seams/pieces across the knee, when I sat or knelt down the seems did not stretch anywhere near as much as the pleather, so garotted my thighs. I think they went to the charity shop too.

TheOtherGirl · 22/01/2018 17:09

squirrel it was meant to be me going pink lipstick shopping, but very sadly my FIL passed away at the weekend so have obviously been busy with other stuff. Popping back on here is a quick escape fix.

ProperLavs · 22/01/2018 18:32

Quirky I should have sat down in the changing room!

theothergirl I'm very sorry to hear you news Flowers

TheGrumpySquirrel · 22/01/2018 18:43

@TheOtherGirl so sorry to hear that Thanks

EnidButton · 22/01/2018 19:28

Very sorry for your loss. I hope you and your family are as okay as you can be. Flowers

OCSockOrphanage · 22/01/2018 20:09

Very very sorry for your sad loss, othergirl. Flowers Delighted that we are providing a hidey hole to escape from the unhappiness.

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