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Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!

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TossDaily · 28/12/2017 11:00

Excuse the franglais.

Here it is - the third thread in the series, where we add a little je ne sais quoi to our lives, inspired by the style of our souers across the Channel.

Thanks to our top contributor and style guru Botemp, we are finding ways to lift ourselves out of the style doldrums with a slash of red on the lips, a touch of white where it counts, an insouciant scarf or even an over the knee sock or two for the brave among us.

Take it as far as you dare, Mariannes!

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OCSockOrphanage · 12/01/2018 20:18

Luuurve those VW trews, Flo. Do find them, and buy them, and post! Feedback is all positive for the Me&Em jeans so far. I am rather hoping they don't arrive till Monday (when DH will be at work).

7Days · 12/01/2018 21:00

Just lurking here and getting inspired ☺ but I couldn't resist adding to the comment above about changing room mirrors. What's that all about? Retailers have gotten the hang of vanity sizing whyever do they not have softer lights and a tiny subtle tilt of the mirrors, anti funhouse style? I would definitely do it in my (imaginary) boutique.

I've been up and down body and confidence wise over the last few years . Recently I have been feeling a little more pleased with myself in the mirror, which set off a chain reaction. It was worth trying on different combinations and some of them worked and I looked good, bought some new stuff to accentuate and felt confident. It felt like it was worth the effort, and the effort paid off. A positive spiral.
Until mum called over and checked herself in front of the mirror, laughed and said Oh this new mirror of yours is so lovely and flattering . I had never made the connection, just thought I just suddenly got better looking for no reason! But now I am a bit better put together but it was my perception which gave me the confidence.

Here endeth the homily.

OCSockOrphanage · 12/01/2018 21:29

Mirrors come in all sorts. Dress shops obviously try to pick flattering mirrors; skeptical is always sensible.

cactusbutt · 12/01/2018 21:40

Just catching up - excellent skirt and trouser ideas everyone! I'm 5'11 and size 10ish, so the wide leg trouser and the short skirt are entirely up my alley (although need to take care with the skirt length to avoid getting too Pretty Woman).

Heads up, there are some gorgeous A line minis in the Soeur sale, in bronze and rust velvet. Totally unseasonal for me, but thinking I might pick one up anyway and keep it for autumn.

Longrider that's a great orange-red.

botemp · 12/01/2018 21:56

Catherine, no, it's much more about working with the texture of your hair than against it. I've personally never gotten on with curly girl method. Depending on the time of year and humidity (and probably hormones too) my hair is anything from wavy to slightly curly. A good hairdresser is key, at least one that cuts technically well with the texture rather than against it. Otherwise, I find leave it alone as much as possible, minimal washing, I only ever brush it before washing and otherwise run fingers through it. I do use expensive products from Christophe Robin, mostly because I can't be bothered with the endless search for something cheaper as I refuse to throw out full bottles of shampoo and I can't stand the aggravation of using a shit shampoo until it's finished. I found the CR products through samples and I was sold on it from then on. I think French women do like a bit of oil but also a nourishing hair mask. The lavender oil from CR is really special but stupid expensive, but it's a great one for anyone going grey as well I think as it softens course texture beautifully. The mask with prickly pear seed is great too but again stupidly expensive. I think hair is really difficult though, these things work great for me but they may not for the next. I also like using the Avene Xeracalm body cleansing oil as a precleanse on my hair, helps retain natural oils and moisture and makes my shampoo last longer as I need less (I only buy it once a year, which helps with those price tags).

Cara, probably sensible, I think the sales period is probably a dangerous time when you're unsure.

I think I don't like you anymore Flo, love the trousers but they're sold out in my size Shock. Probably a good thing, but still Sad

Ah sorry banana, should have PMed you the link instead. Hopefully it's the right size for you. Don't know what money you were thinking of spending but you could have a look at Ann de Meulemeester and Sartore. Zadig & Voltaire also have some cool looking neatened up combat boots, the Joe Plus may work, they're laced but handily it's for decoration only and has a zip and they come up higher than similar boots, much more fitted too. Not all sizes are still available though .

I'm not expert of the bloat Grumpy but it sounds like a switch up may be the thing, looser trousers (possibly with an elasticated waist at the back to give some room but still look neat from the front) and some extra layers on top like a blazer or similar?

A lot of retailers do care a lot about changing rooms, H&M and Zara spend quite a bit, with good lighting that can be adjusted, slim mirrors and often a second one so you can see front an side, etc. Expensive department stores are surprisingly crap at them (except Le Bon Marche in Paris, I'd happily move into one of their changing rooms). There is a lot of theory behind lighting in retail, so most people assume a place like Waitrose will spend more on a lighting plan than say Aldi but Aldi is the one outspending them as they've had special fluorescent lighting developed at huge costs to give off the right amount of cheap, at that price level of the market things that look to good are treated with suspicion. I have wondered if the dreadful TKMaxx lighting is a similar move or just there for security reasons. The next big development will be getting the lighting right for social media pics.

cactus, one of those velvet skirts from Soeur is/was going really cheaply at www.irisfashion.co.uk IIRC, heavily discounted but more conventional sizes of 38, 40, and maybe 42.

ProjectGainsborough · 12/01/2018 21:58

Just delurking to share what I once read: the least flattering of mirrors is a liar too!

schmalex · 12/01/2018 22:06

Love that lipstick longrider! Just catching up on the thread. I am still keeping my new year's resolution of red lipstick every day. My other stories boots are gradually stretching and I had my first French lesson today in preparation for my move to Paris later in the year! Must think about my hair. I do have a nice cut (dark bob) but need to spend a bit more time on styling it. I am fairly useless with hair so any beginners tips are most welcome.

botemp · 12/01/2018 22:27

Also, don't know if you're at the stage yet of showing, Grumpy, but this article from Vogue may be helpful:

How French Moms Do Maternity Style, According to One Paris DJ

CaraMia · 12/01/2018 22:32

7Days and Gainsborough, those are wise words. My changing room horror happened in a branch of John Lewis, I think I always find those changing rooms a bit on the brutal side. It probably didn't help that I was trying on some dregs of the sale that didn't make my heart beat faster but that I sort of felt I should try on. I infinitely prefer trying stuff on at home and make much better decisions because I'm more relaxed there I just wish the shops would lend me the stuff to take home for free and try on, and oh if they would pop by and collect it if I don't want it that would be nice also (that is so bizarre about the lighting in Aldi).

cactusbutt · 13/01/2018 03:26

Nice find bo! Hopefully it's still there on Monday when my pay comes through (Christmas was, as ever, an expensive time).

CatherineMaitland · 13/01/2018 07:09

Thanks bo. The Christophe Robin products look lovely!

PeoniesforMissAnnersley · 13/01/2018 07:20

bo I now have a giant bright orange scarf as well! Will try for a pic later, have been wearing it with a camel coat to work.
I have made the scary decision to not have my roots done (very grey at only 32, natural hair is almost black so it’s very noticeable!) to see what it’s like. I cba with the money and time I spend in the salon anymore so if it looks at all okay I’ll leave it, suspect I will hate it tho. Was wondering about allowing a good inch of grey/silver to grow and then getting highlights to blend it in?

quirkychick · 13/01/2018 08:17

Peonie I went blonder before growing out my grey (was dark), I would just say be aware that blonder highlights can go orangey/yellowy which contrasts with the grey or silver and can also be quite harsh on your hair. I would ask your hairdresser's advice, too. Winter is a good time, too, as you can easily wear a chic hat to cover the roots.

Bo I agree about the trial and error with hair products. I started doing a light version of curly girl when I was pg and my hair went wildly curly and unmanageable. More recently, since stopping the dye and starting perimenopause (damn those hormones) I've gone for more of a cowash, clarifying conditioner, leave in conditioner and wash less often. I started by using salon products, as they were great, especially Kevin Murphy, but have found some cheaper alternatives. I daren't look up those Christophe Robin products...

PeoniesforMissAnnersley · 13/01/2018 08:25

Scarf!

TobikkoRoll · 13/01/2018 08:49

Very nice Peonies!

Floisme · 13/01/2018 09:19

That scarf is gorgeous Peonies

Sorry the VW trews sold out bo - there was only one size left (40) when I ordered so I just crossed my fingers and it's a really good fit. I could try and cheer you up and say they're a disappointment but I'm afraid I'd be lying! I normally only buy designer if it's second hand or TK Maxx but, when I discovered the VW sale, I started putting a bit of money to one side for it - at least 60% off by the end although what's left at that point is totally random.

I don't think I've brushed my hair for 40 years. I can't really give much advice, I've just been very, very lucky in that I found a hairdresser who not only understood my hair but who also understood me i.e. that I'm lazy. I've stuck with him ever since.

TheGrumpySquirrel · 13/01/2018 10:05

Just found a grey 100 per cent wool Isabel marant biker jacket in a charity shop for £17! Fits perfectly!

TheOtherGirl · 13/01/2018 10:59

Very exited. The Palmers Smoothing Lotion with AHAs arrived this morning, as recommended to me on here. So will slather it on after my shower and hope for good things.

I'm doing a lot of hospital visiting at the moment, and I find it really helps to make an effort with my appearance. It's like psychological body armour if that makes sense.

Last night I changed into a navy loose knit cotton jumper from French Connection, layered over a thin, stretchy Breton and did the cuffs turn up thing. Teamed it with black, ankle skinnies and my white Superstars. Neutral make up + Ruby Woo lippy.

I've never worn black + navy. But I copied the outfit from an Instagrammer I follow and I really liked it. Navy is a bit more forgiving near my face, than black.

Anyway, I bumped into a colleague at the hospital who said I looked 'a bit French' so I'll take that gladly Smile

Today thank God I'm getting my hair cut back into a soft crop, with heavy fringe (a la Linda Evangelista in the early Nineties). My stylist has been away since before Xmas (how very dare she) and my hair has run amok.

Floisme · 13/01/2018 11:24

I'm drooling at the thought of your IM jacket, Grumpy - hope you enjoy it! Our charity shops are very random but a couple of them support local charities which I imagine have a personal connection to some affluent donors (one is for a hospice) and occasionally they get amazing things. I found a Margaret Howell overcoat for £18 a few months ago, although it did cost another £50 to get it altered!

TheGrumpySquirrel · 13/01/2018 11:47

This is it

Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
TheOtherGirl · 13/01/2018 13:29

Oh that is beautiful. I have something almost identical from Laura Ashley, but in a black, boucle wool.

I must dig it out. I haven't worn it this Winter, too many other jackets Blush

quirkychick · 13/01/2018 15:10

Gorgeous scarf, Peonies.

We'll done on the beautiful VW trousers, flo. I don't brush my hair either, it's not a good look for me, total wild frizz Grin. Too much damp and humidity and I put it up into some form of messy bun. The charity shop I went in the other day is a hospice one too, Kate Middleton is patron, they have lots of nice stuff (it's quite an affluent area too), hence the Laura Ashley wool skirt and Maxmara trousers.

Good find, Grumpy, very nice.

TheOtherGirl I've been doing the folded sleeves thing over a base layer too. I wear a lot of black and navy, I think I layer up lots of neutrals together greys, navys, blacks and sometimes add colour.

bananafish81 · 13/01/2018 15:33

grumpy that is amazing!! What a stunning find

Flo I too am lusting at those VW trews, they are spectacular. I wish you well to wear them, they are stunners!

TheOtherGirl self care is so important, really glad to hear you’re nurturing yourself - psychological body armour makes total sense. Your outfit sounds lush, tres chic! Inspiring me to try a grey flannel shirt worn over a stripey top with sleeves rolled up to work next week, hadn’t thought of wearing it that way. Enjoy your haircut!

Peonies that scarf is a beauty - cor!

My Soeur Casablanca trousers arrived today - I love ‘em! I’ve no idea if the 34 would have been a better fit, but the 36 seems a nice slouchy fit (not entirely sure what ‘the right fit’ would be anyway with something slightly slouchier anyway) and I am LOVING the comfy elasticated waist Blush. I plan to wear them with plain merino wool sweaters and my Stan Smiths - I think my black patent brogues make them look slightly too formal for my (very casual) workplace, although maybe I’ll psyche myself up to try them...

Those Z&V boots are deliciously stompy bo - I actually accidentally on purpose whizzed through the Dune shop that happens to be directly opposite the Eurostar arrivals and the taxi rank @ St Pancras last night, as I find their boots a very reliable and insanely comfortable fit, and they’re usually my go-to. Also, as I tend to wear through shoes/boots pretty quickly due to walking so much - and probably also wonky posture due to hypermobility - I’ve found that above a certain price point, I don’t tend to find much difference in longevity of shoes/boots (JME), although of course the benefit of spending more is that you can get them reheeled / soled etc (which I do). These Dune Rayko boots are nice and simple, so will see what they’re like when they arrive tomorrow no YOU were busting for the loo and too knackered and close to a sense of humour failure to bother actually trying the pair on in store, and might have ordered them via the John Lewis app in the cab from the station, so you can try them on at home Blush

Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
bellabelly · 13/01/2018 15:38

Ooh, found you all again! Will catch up with thread in a mo but just wanted to say - we've booked 3 nights in Paris, early April. Am so excited and am going to practise my chic to the max! (As far as I can with 4 kids in tow...) And whoever recommended reading 'We'll Always Have Paris' - a huge thank you. Just finished reading and absolutely loved it. Right, off to read what I've missed - my bank account needs a rest after Xmas but I can dream...

TheOtherGirl · 13/01/2018 16:33

Quirky I've found the very best underneath Breton layer is actually from Primary (their boat neck style). I think it's because they're very thin (so don't add bulk) and they're cut quite long in the body so the hem peeps out just below the hem of your sweater which looks good.

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