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Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!

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TossDaily · 28/12/2017 11:00

Excuse the franglais.

Here it is - the third thread in the series, where we add a little je ne sais quoi to our lives, inspired by the style of our souers across the Channel.

Thanks to our top contributor and style guru Botemp, we are finding ways to lift ourselves out of the style doldrums with a slash of red on the lips, a touch of white where it counts, an insouciant scarf or even an over the knee sock or two for the brave among us.

Take it as far as you dare, Mariannes!

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ToElleWithIt · 05/01/2018 08:48

Great scarf Peonies I'd lean toward selling the AMcQ personally. I find that texture of scarf a bit of a faff.

I love the colour of that dress pinpon

Auld enjoy Prague

I've added tan / congac shoes to my "list of clothes to look out for".

Today I'm more casual than usual in jeans, t-shirt and a navy Chanel blazer - fitted, not the tweed or boucle boxy type. Feel duty bound to point out that this was an absolute bargain (I could never buy a new one) as I bought in a second-hand shop in Japan. They are an absolute treasure trove. It was marked down presumably because of its absolutely enormous size. I was reading with interest the previous thread where people talked about their experiences in Japan and mine was indeed similar. I was looking at a European brand in a large department store when the sales assistant, unprompted, directed me to the "Queen-size" section.

PinPon · 05/01/2018 09:05

Thanks bo. Love the Bobbies. Don’t know if I can carry it off like the Cos model, but I’ll definitely look happier Grin.

Floisme · 05/01/2018 10:03

What a great bargain ToElle, this is me Envy

Ha ha Tanaqui, no, not brunette - I'm small, pale of face and grey! It's funny how we imagine people.

I think the personal style thing is interesting. I always admire people who have a strong signature style but I've never achieved it for myself. I get bored too easily plus your body and looks and lifestyle change all the time. I know this sounds mean but whenever I hear a woman say 'I'm 40 now and I know what suits me' I'm afraid I have a quiet smile and think, 'Just you wait.'
I would say the only real constants in my style are comfort, ease of movement and low maintenance. So no heels and nothing that requires grooming.

cactusbutt · 05/01/2018 10:04

Liberty that's a great shirt dress. I agree, it's very hard to dress well when it's hot.

In Australia it's hard to find decent clothes, the high street fashion here is either geared towards teenagers or totally frumpstastic. There are a few decent independent designers but the prices are eye-watering. Outside of the main cities dressing well is viewed with deep suspicion.

It's pretty much the opposite of Paris. Thank god for the internet.

bananafish81 · 05/01/2018 10:28

Some beautiful purchases here ladies, stunning! I am particularly loving the white shirt with detachable collar pretty, that's such a terrific idea (and the scarf is beautiful peonies)

Absolutely not in the same league as growing natural grey out, but just for a slightly different take - I had full head bleach for a few years, and quite often dyed it full on granny grey. I am not a head turner by any stretch of the imagination, but people would stop me in the street to compliment me on my 'lovely grey hair' (one woman leant out her window when stopped at a traffic light!) I've had my hair many different colours (I got married with neon pink) and grey is by a long long way the colour I got most compliments for. I realise a 30 yo with dyed matte grey isn't the same as letting hair grow grey naturally, but just chucking in my tuppence FWIW

It's interesting what you say about personal style, as mine has changed dramatically, in line with my life. A few years ago I was all about brights and colour. I had crazy hair. Fuschia and purple winter coats. I lived in my bright coloured limited edition Adidas high tops. Someone I worked with said my 'personal brand' was black and grey with trainers and 'prints with animals on'

Then I had a year of not being able to work due to ill health, and over the space of 2 years of infertility and miscarriage I essentially lost interest in the world. I got a new job a year ago and realised I was now in my mid 30s, my hair was brown again, and I didn't really know who I was. I definitely wasn't the bright coloured girl any more. So I went back to basics. Possibly too much basics!! Not sure I have worked it out other than lots of monochrome and navy with red lippy and leather! And slightly androgynous. Although possibly not, as I wear form fitting stuff rather than masculine fits. But I often wear very similar stuff to my male colleagues, but in feminine cuts. Not sure what that says about me though! Now playing amateur psychologist and questioning whether it's been a reaction to feeling like a failure as a woman, that I seem to have gravitated towards slightly boyish clothing. Or I just like plain things?!

bananafish81 · 05/01/2018 10:32

Just booked my Eurostar for another work trip to Paris next week - although annoyingly this one is another Thu- Fri trip, but timing doesn't work to extend my trip and stay for the weekend and come back Sunday (instead of coming back Fri evening). I keep going to Paris but don't actually go to Paris, as it's just hotel, office,Gare du Nord, and dinner somewhere in the vicinity. Which as it's the 10th is not exactly style capital! Must try harder.

LunaTheCat · 05/01/2018 10:54

Oh banana I know the loss of self that infertility causes.
I knewI had found my mojo again when I started dressing better.
I think that your personal style changes throughout your life - actually that is what clothes are mostly about -experimenting and having fun and trying different roles. I have been through a classic phase, a flowery phase, a monochrome phase - it may be nothing to do with your fertility journey and just you being your glorious self. Enjoy.

Canters15 · 05/01/2018 11:07

Liberty I'm not in NZ (oh if only!) I'm in Singapore. So year round heat and humidity, which is a real treat on my postpartum tufts- I seem to perpetually have a halo of frizz in addition to lack of makeup and boring clothes! Phew I feel better for getting that out, Glad someone else knows the hot weather struggle! My hair was so much nicer in Australia though due to it being dry heat and it made me feel a million times better. Those Pearson scarves are just stunning, I wonder if they ship here... oh and that shirt dress is lovely. Must look out for something like that.

Flo i hadn't thought about personal style continuing to evolve. It's a good point. I think by style I mean a way of filtering down purchases so that they work together rather then the random collection of things my wardrobe is at the moment.

Banana so sorry to hear of your fertility issues. Younger you sounds like the sort of person I'd love to have been but never have dared try!

botemp · 05/01/2018 11:18

Flowers banana, I don't think it's a reaction to that all, and I hope you don't actually think that. To me it sounds much more like a reaction to the stressful times, when we're restless or emotional turmoil dominates our every thought it's bad enough dealing with that day to day, it's not a part of us we're actively willing to share with the rest of the world as overtly. By dressing more nondescript and 'calm' you're simply presenting the opposite, either in hopes of getting there, grabbing hold of it prematurely (a positive attitude, I feel, you're looking forward) and/or simply because amidst all the chaos it's something you can control. Not looking a mess makes you feel like less of one, it's quite a common coping mechanism, especially when an illness is involved.

There was a good documentary on this a few years back, by a French/Dutch woman and she too was exploring the subject of why this appealed to women so much in this time/age group/etc. She explored it a little broader, global influences, a rejection of the male gaze, amongst others. It's called It's in the Sky. I can only find an online version without subtitles and it's mostly Dutch with a bit of English and French. DVD for sale here but it's less than half an hour.

Interesting we're talking style, I'm reading through Lidewij Edelkoort's trend forecast for 2018 (the only one I bother with) and it's a lot about these subjects, I'll recap later.

I personally park 'signature style' with the capsule wardrobes, etc. and think much like Flo on it. It feels too much in opposition of both fashion and time to arbitrarily declare yourself done at some point. I switch things up all the time in reaction to the tides, there are certain constants, which other people might narrow down as personal style. I've always been very aesthetically geared, things of beauty fascinate (though not so much people, those I find dull), expressions of craft where human touch is legible, small defining details, little things that reveal the hand of the designer, materiality and flow, etc. It makes my tastes expensive, and I don't mind paying for that as it actually feels like my money is going towards something but it took a few years to get over the snobbish aspect of it in what is a very horizontal society and equally for my age to catch up with as well. Then again there are things I've loved since childhood, it drove my mother mad because I insisted on wearing white dresses all the time, the most impractical thing ever considering I ate with my entire body Halo. Still love them, I don't really bother with a LBD but a LWD is a mainstay for me, which is quite comical since I've always been very anti-marriage. Equally a version of a beige trench has always existed in my wardrobe. So I think it's possibly a combination of things, signature pieces, an attitude to grooming (I have always been low maintenance, and always will be, it's mostly down to being fortunate that I don't need much doing to), and understanding what appeals to you, the things I've worn to death and still mourn were usually not the things you expected them to be when first buying them and the reverse, very practical purchases can get very stale.

Those in the heat, just how hot and humid is it or do you have staff because my main issue with those temperatures is that shirt dresses and similar all sound ideal I could not stand to iron a thing in those temperatures, even with the idea of aircon, may be down to me though I'm not a good one for heat. Aside from that, it all starts wrinkling, etc. far quicker (especially in humidity), which is why I think the very practical stuff is so popular. I mean we are talking temps over 25C minimum, right?

bingohandjob · 05/01/2018 11:51

Had to post to say I've thoroughly loved reading these threads - Botemp, I'd hire you in a shot for a day's styling advice. Thank you for providing a joyous read! Although I haven't joined in until now, these threads have nudged more towards getting a gorgeous Other Stories shawl/stole, a fab faux fur stole and generally revel in my growing confidence in choosing what I wear as I settle into my 40s. Having disposable income really helps, I know, but primarily confidence in who I am - I wish I'd had this in my twenties!

I've trawled the threads but can't find the one on choosing a good red lipstick for your colouring though... I would love to crack this one. I love and suit fuschia, coral and berry lip colours but have always struggled with red....

quirkychick · 05/01/2018 13:13

I went sale shopping today armed with gift vouchers. I got a grey, cashmere poncho, not sure how french that is, but more for spring or autumn, it's super soft, as symmetrical and hangs beautifully. I also wandered into the new Kiko store, bought a longlasting eyeliner and berry lipstick 430, I think. There was 30% off.

schmalex · 05/01/2018 14:41

Sorry to hear about your fertility issues, banana.
If you are in the 10th, there is a fab restaurant called Braisenville not too far from Gare du Nord that is well worth trying. We ate there on our recent recce visit to Paris. There was also an amazing but tiny (think 10 seats!) wine shop/bar on the same street where we had a glass of wine. Can't remember its name I'm afraid. Maybe it didn't have one!

ChangoMutney · 05/01/2018 15:03

I think there's a kind of power in dressing well, if I'm feeling down I just can't be bothered with thinking about clothes/make up etc which makes me feel worse. If I'm feeling down and can chivvy myself into putting some effort into how I look it immediately makes me feel better and more positive.

ToElleWithIt · 05/01/2018 15:18

Sorry to hear about the health scare and fertility worries bananafish I think at various points in our lives we can feel more drawn to whimsical clothes, more playful, more out there. At other times we may feel more inclined to dress more soberly. I would hope that your change in style isn't down to some inner feeling of not being womanly, but rather is just moving away from a style that suited a different period in your life. I do think that the change from being in one's 20s to one's 30s commonly brings a shift in style and that make have coincided with your health problems? [I'm guessing we're the same age and my style has shifted a lot of the last decade.] Not to mention the general shift that has occurred in the last decade seeing consumers move from disposable fashion to more conscientious choices.

mrsreynolds · 05/01/2018 15:38

Oh!
Hello!
I'm currently starting a diet to lose the 20lbs of weight I've put on since I turned 40 :(
Thanks to Pinterest I now know I'm a deep winter palette - which I'm glad of because the colours I tend to go for are the ones I should go for iyswim? (Black, white, navy, grey, dark jewel colours)
I now know that I can't do brown.... I've always had a sneaking suspicion!
I'm an hourglass shape with huge boobs- not very French sadly :(
Advice on wardrobe basics for spring/summer would be much appreciated:)

ProperLavs · 05/01/2018 17:02

I need to go back through the threads and make a list of all brands/shops that have been recommended.

TheOtherGirl · 05/01/2018 17:55

Where do we stand on the current trend of casually tucking just the front section of your top into your trousers? I love the look but my tummy is quite rounded though I'm 5ft 7 and a size 12.

Should I just not bother?

CatherineMaitland · 05/01/2018 18:26

"Where do we stand on the current trend of casually tucking just the front section of your top into your trousers?"

I've tried to do this but I just look shorter than usual and scruffy so tips welcome! Perhaps it's just not possible on 5ft 4 still-a-bit-overweight me.

cactusbutt · 05/01/2018 20:43

bananafish so sorry to hear about your health and infertility issues Flowers

I used to be a neon haired girl in mad prints too, and went through a difficult patch a few years back, coupled with depression. I came out the other side feeling... older. Not in terms of appearance, more in the sense of having learned some important truths about myself and my place in the world. This has been reflected in more sober, grown up dressing. I don't think it's a bad thing.

Bo here in sunny Melbourne it's going to be 41 degrees today, which is far too hot to wear clothes at all really, and definitely too hot for ironing. Crisp cotton gear wilts in this sort of environment. But it fluctuates like crazy, a few days ago it was 19 degrees. It makes getting dressed or having any kind of cohesive seasonal wardrobe very difficult.

TheGrumpySquirrel · 05/01/2018 21:02

"I think there's a kind of power in dressing well, if I'm feeling down I just can't be bothered with thinking about clothes/make up etc which makes me feel worse. If I'm feeling down and can chivvy myself into putting some effort into how I look it immediately makes me feel better and more positive."

Definitely. After my miscarriage I put on a stone through comfort eating and stopped bothering with appearance (then when you feel fat you don't feel inspired to dress well)! But I'm trying not to let the extra weight get me down and be inventive, and make better use of accessories and make up. Got to stop wearing clothes that are too tight, too, as that's just depressing.

I am someone who has struggled with dressing very boringly all my life. I like "classic" / minimalist looks (jeans, white shirts, grey/black jumpers, tailored jackets) which often can just look boring or frumpy if you aren't very young and very skinny! What does tend to work is rocking it up a bit with a leather jacket, a cool scarf or statement jewellery.

I can't do prints, but occasion will wear a colour eg (pink or red/coral/orange or mustard yellow all suit me). I look awful in any shade of green, or pale blue or any pastels really. I look good in grey, black, white/cream or navy. I've got medium brown hair and eyes and olive skin, suit yellow gold jewellery. Anyone care to guess my HOC season? Grin

ToElleWithIt · 05/01/2018 21:08

Catherine I like the look of a tucked in t-shirt or tucked in at the front thought don’t know how Parisienne it is. I personally only do it with mid or lower rise jeans because my proportions look a bit weird if I do it with high rise.

singformysupper · 05/01/2018 21:36

Some lovely purchases on here. I have the same Zara shirt dress on order liberty. They are taking forever to deliver it !

I love those navy Bobbies that bo linked too, so simple and feminine at the same time. I have a fondness for navy too.

Sorry to hear about your health/ fertility problems banana. Perhaps you just wanted to simplify that part of your life and retain some control. I think simple styles can look fantastic and are more to my test than slightly 'overdone'.

I agree that grey hair can look incredibly chic. I have noticed a number of young women with all grey hair (probably dyed) when I have been to London recently. I think it takes a brave woman to not dye her hair as she ages naturally though. Women are not 'allowed' to age naturally in the same way that men are.

LunaTheCat · 05/01/2018 21:51

bingo I have been despately trying to find discussion of skin tones and red lipstick recommendations - which thread is it? I have been taking screenshots helpful posts 🙃 but missed that.
I am fair and blonde . Mac Ruby Woo looked awful. I have Bobbi Brown Hibiscus but it’s not really a true red - any recommendations ( even though rehash) greatly received.

cactus I sympathise about Melbourne weather. In NZ we have not quite reached 41 but high 30s to mid teens - it has been pouring for 2 days.
I like some Australian designers - Gorman especially. We don’t have Cos in NZ but I think Melbourne and Sydney do.
I am going to Spain later in year and I am almost planning a trip around where I can get to Cos !
I did love Nina from Offsprings style - she was so much her own person.

I am thinking Parisian style is actually more about a state of mind and taking care of yourself and grooming than just the clothes.

This is a wonderful thread - keep it up.

quirkychick · 05/01/2018 21:56

bananafish I am sorry to hear about your fertility problems. I understand about changing your style, too. When I was younger I went through various punky, gothy, hippy phases. Part of me will always like that look, but now I just have touches such as leather wrap bracelets, biker jackets, boho jewellery, chunky boots etc. It's still a way of keeping in touch with who I was while still being who I am now iyswim.

cactusbutt · 05/01/2018 22:00

I do love Gorman, such a great brand. And yes, we have COS! When I moved back from London, finding that COS had made its way over here was such a pleasant surprise. We need &other Stories now.

I tend to think of NZ as quite a stylish place. Lots of sculptural pieces and interesting layering. My NZ friends all have great sense of style, very individual.

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