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Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!

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TossDaily · 28/12/2017 11:00

Excuse the franglais.

Here it is - the third thread in the series, where we add a little je ne sais quoi to our lives, inspired by the style of our souers across the Channel.

Thanks to our top contributor and style guru Botemp, we are finding ways to lift ourselves out of the style doldrums with a slash of red on the lips, a touch of white where it counts, an insouciant scarf or even an over the knee sock or two for the brave among us.

Take it as far as you dare, Mariannes!

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quirkychick · 03/01/2018 13:02

exploding I am embracing the grey have gone full silver too, I wear similar colours to you, a few greens and berry colours too. I know what you mean flo, I have a dark green tweed jacket I bought from topshop 13+yrs ago (better quality then, maybe) for a friend's winter wedding, I was prepared to pay £££ at the time, but all the better quality ones looked too old fashioned/frumpy so I went high st instead, it's got a slight military vibe but is unlined.

Lol at looking like a cbeebies presenter! I liked Justine's video about colour and that too many different colours is saying contrasting things. Having said that I wore my bright red coat with my grey baker boy hat, yesterday. But I wouldn't wear it with lots of other colours, it's just not me.

prettybird · 03/01/2018 13:41

I have a pair of purple suede LK Bennett shoes with a "hidden" platform and a lovely heel - not too high (especially because of the wee platform), not too thin stilleto-ish, but not too chunky (with a graceful curve down the heel). They're about 9 years old and they've never done any like them since I look every season Hmm

It's amazing how many colours I decide will work with purple shoes! Wink

I still get compliments every time I wear them. I'm normally really hard on my shoes but I've been careful with these ones.

schmalex · 03/01/2018 13:55

Just received my &OtherStories sale boots. Too small! I am utterly gutted because they're gorgeous and now sold out.

MaryLennoxsScowl · 03/01/2018 15:10

I've just got mine too - were yours the studded ones? I love them, so slim fitting and neat, but I have narrow feet so I can easily imagine them coming up very small - that just suits me though. I also got the white cropped sweatshirt and frankly I'm not in love - the collar is cut too big for the neck hole and sticks up, I don't know if mine just has a flaw though. It's a nice cropped length though. I also got a grey merino jumper with frills on the shoulders and cuffs which I didn't think would suit me - I don't need any extra width at the shoulders - but somehow it's lovely and the frills are lower than I expected.

botemp · 03/01/2018 15:22

Canters, I do tend to do a sort out when I change out my wardrobe seasonally. Things that are really at the end of their life cycle or beyond repair/fixing get taken out, as well as items that just aren't working for me and realistically never will. I don't throw anything out because stylistically it's had its moment or it hasn't felt stylistically right for some time.

I think it helps that I buy somewhat strategically and look for things that suit me rather than it being fashionable. I deeply regret throwing out a lot of things that were too small as it was part of my 'just accept this is natural size' thinking, holding on felt unhealthy. My weight loss sort of came out of left field so it would have been nice to have had those clothes at that point. It was exactly the year after I'd done the big clearout Sad. I have quite a large section of my wardrobe now that simply is too big and I can't make to work by having it altered or worn oversized but I think I'll hold onto those with that lesson. It's a silly supposition that I'll remain my current size forever. They're things I genuinely love and really miss not having in my wardrobe, but I'll box it up in anti-moth paper and 'archive' it. I think the Kondo nonsense and similar rules work better if you buy more indiscriminately, or predominantly on price, easily affected by ideas of value, so to speak. I'm also always cautious to avoid dating trends, like those flurry slides Hmm from last year, or this year's Prince of Wales check (unless it really suits you and you struggle to find it the rest of the time, now, of course, is the time to get a really nice piece of it) and the synthetic fluffy sheep like coats. Last year everyone wanted a version of the Acne Aviator suede and shearling jacket, the real thing will carry you through many years as it's quite impressive on its materiality alone and I can easily see it resurging in a cycle, but the imitation ones have probably all worn out by now, and they were never the real deal anyhow so they were never really the thing people wanted.

Metal in jewelry is difficult because there's a huge difference between costume and the real deal. I'm neutral in the face but definitely warm in the body, the two rarely match up perfectly. In theory I can wear most metals, copper and rose gold prove difficult though, the high karat yellow gold (especially if it's very shiny) isn't my best look but I can get away with it, especially if worn mixed. Platinum is my best match, real silver can be a bit too cool but costume jewelry seems to be very easy to wear, as the tones appear to be a bit more neutral in general. So whilst I'd be less inclined to buy real silver, I happily buy 'silver' in costume jewelry. The finish also matters, in more contemporary pieces I really like brushed brass, but can't really get on with aluminum. So, in short not my expertise, buy what you respond to best when you see it.

I've noticed a trend about HOC on MN before, the ones who are most enthused about it are usually autumns or winters, summers are really tepid and springs seem to really hate the experience.

Do you like a squarer scarf though, Canters, that's their most iconic shape but I do think they do stoles and shawls as well. I'm not always the biggest fan of a square as it can be quite bulky on the chest and give you a Santa beard. A lighter silk (chiffon) would possibly be more climate-appropriate? Although both of those features would take it out of the iconic Hermes sphere, so perhaps not what you want?

10FingersOnTheFender, French mothers are something else, aren't they? There's a lovely passage in the How to be Parisian book on it, made me realise I had quite the Parisian mother. I'll look it up later to share here.

exploding, I think with the age thing it's more that you exude a confidence that's in relation to the age you are, it's not defining you or getting you down. It's both a strong statement as it unapologetically sets aside preconceived notions and at the same time it's a quiet confidence I think, choices are precise and legible and you can get away with more in that regard than if you were younger I think, rather than exuding 'I'm sorry I still exist, please don't mind me'.

Knowing your height and long limbed body shape, I can really see why that blazer works really well for you Elle.

Sock, I think Soeur is a bit small, and their sizes go really small. The models (who are your average thin Parisian models rather than 'healthy' catalog models of elsewhere usually wear a 38, the look is a bit baggy then. Is it EU or FR you're referring to as there's already a size difference between those.

Oh, no schmalex, &other stories usually comes in quite big in the shoe department. Did see they've added more things in the sale but sensibly decided probably best not to look. The Maison Kitsune grey sweatshirt I had as a backup for the &other stories one that didn't work ou just got marked down to 70% so I snapped it up. Then added a bralette to it for the hell of it, and a few pairs of lacy underthings. Less than 24hrs since the Joseph coat and I'm already buying more, doing well here Confused

OCSockOrphanage · 03/01/2018 20:03

Thank you, Bo, for the steer on size. I am generally a 36 in European jeans and bottoms (Italian/French/Austrian/German makes mostly) but I would like the Cédric trousers much more slouchy, so I will have a debate with my bank account about trying the 38 and 40 and returning one (or both, if the cut doesn't flatter).

I have also embraced the grey. And I am sure I have agreed with Flo more than once that if you wear specs, you must breathe deeply and shell out for new (probably £££) frames every couple of years. To which I would add, don't settle for SpecSavers but go for broke and find an independent optician with a huge range and a fantastic eye. My mum has a superlative one, not far from Oxford, that I would recommend if anyone wants to know.

schmalex · 03/01/2018 20:46

Yes Mary, the studded ones. They are so beautiful! I'm going to try them again tomorrow in the vain hope my feet shrink in the night. Is there such a thing as a foot diet?!
On the bright side, I did also get two gorgeous slouchy wool / angora mix sweaters, which I will definitely be keeping.

schmalex · 03/01/2018 20:53

It's my chubby ankles, bo! But thank you for the link to them - I have never shopped there before and was impressed with the quality and design of the boots. The leather smelt gorgeous. I'm just off to stroke them before packing them up to send back...

TheGrumpySquirrel · 03/01/2018 21:01

I always wore silver as a teen/early20s. Then realised yellow gold suited me way better! Even had my engagement and wedding rings done in yellow gold. Not looked back, ironically until this winter when I've gotten so pale, that it actually doesn't look that good - tried some silver pieces eg chunky earrings and they do look nice so maybe it is a skin tone thing. Don't like platinum as it goes a dull grey colour very quickly. Rose gold is a tacky fad I think (sorry to anyone who likes it!).

I wore my new grey APC jumper today (didn't return it in the end) with a big white shirt underneath and leather black pencil skirt. A good effort but felt a bit like a school teacher with the white shirt grey jumper combo, and leather leggings would have been cooler than the skirt, but they haven't arrived yet. Jumper is growing on me, it's nice and chunky and very good quality close knit wool.

Yesterday I wore the Jacquemus wide leg trousers with a waist belt and tight black cashmere top tucked in, and my dark grey Saint Laurent military jacket over. It was a bit too black of an outfit tbh and the waist belt (also black) ended up looking a bit odd as I'm quite bloated although no real bump yet.

However 2/2 with my new year's resolution to try and dress smarter for work!

MaryLennoxsScowl · 03/01/2018 22:42

Schmalex could you wear them with pop socks instead of socks and hope they stretch?

Canters15 · 04/01/2018 02:45

elle I adore that shawl. Not climate appropriate, but it is gorgeous.

Bo I hadn't thought about it being square but it's a good point that it's a tricky shape. DH has suggested Hermes with all my prattling on about Parisian chic but it's not essential that I get one. I think he was hoping for something timeless that would last.

I'm in the fancy part of town this morning, toddler DS in tow but have bribed him with a croissant (so French, though maybe Parisian enfants are not given such calorific foods...) so hoping I might be able to get a bit of time for some browsing. DH open to the idea of something other then a scarf so will have a look and see if anything tickles my fancy.

LunaTheCat · 04/01/2018 05:57

Scarf recommendation
Ordered this from Toast in their sale - just arrived at my home in The Antipodes. Absolutely beautiful - softer than soft and I shall feel instantly chic come winter.

Bonne année, Parisiennes de Mamansnet! C'est Le nouveau thread full of nouveau ideés!
quirkychick · 04/01/2018 07:26

Luna that scarf looks gorgeous! Toast is usually lovely quality.

schmalex · 04/01/2018 07:43

Mary you are a genius! Popsocks are on. The boots are still very slightly tight but I think they might wear in. I am wearing them around the house this morning.

schmalex · 04/01/2018 07:53

I've been reading this too - apparently the Queen has somebody to wear her shoes in for her! www.vogue.co.uk/article/how-to-stretch-shoes-and-leather

herecomesthsun · 04/01/2018 08:31

I thought
-it was a bad idea to have someone else wear your shoes as the leather would conform to their feet not yours
-the Queen would have the best made to measure footwear so it would be better fitting to start with?

schmalex · 04/01/2018 09:21

I thought that too. I am pleased to report that my stories boots are loosening up already.

ToElleWithIt · 04/01/2018 09:34

The GrumpySquirrel outfits sound fab.

Another one here a bit confused about Soeur sizing. I'm usually a FR38 in designers that are true-to-size. On most other sites the models are in a FR36 and I can usually rely on being 1 size bigger. On Soeur the models are in a 38 and while the fit is slouchy the models are very thin so I think I'd probably need a 40 at least?!

Trying again with the aesthetic this morning and again I'm unsure about the shoes. Navy 7/8 trousers, navy silk shirt, burnt orange merino jumper, slevees rollled up. Despite having a fairly big collection of shoes the only ones that I thought went with it (and crucially are weather-appropriate) were nude heeled pumps which always feel a bit "Duchess of Cambridge" or a pair of gold ballet flats which have a bow on them and I thought looked a bit twee... Thoughts on nude pumps? Are they very off-brand? Any suggestions instead? It's for work so has to be something reasonably smart.

ChangoMutney · 04/01/2018 09:41

I bought an Inez DLF Uniqlo blazer on eBay last year and was surprised at how bad the quality was. I know they're inexpensive, but it looks it poor quality thin 'wool' fabric and only lined in the sleeve for contrast at the hem when turning back.

I'm confused by the whole warm/cool thing I'm very pale with a red tone which I loathe but my hair is auburn which I'd describe as warm. I moved to yellow gold jewellery a couple of years ago and think it suit me much more perhaps because it's similar to my hair.

I had a great day yesterday, was in a local independent clothes shop considering their cashmere scarves in the sale at £32 when the asistant said they were only £10 so I bought two they're lovely and I can't help feel it must have been a mistake.

Canters15 · 04/01/2018 11:18

Oh Luna that scarf is gorgeous!

I've had a lovely day. Managed about an hour or so of browsing. I tried on some lovely shoes and they're now on hold until tonight but I don't think they're quite the aesthetic I'm after, so probably won't get them. Rose gold pointed loafer type which appeals to my inner magpie but probably a bit too girlie.
Anyway. Realised after I looked a total state as had pretty much rolled out of bed to a drs appointment after DS was late to wake up. Old clothes, unwashed hair scraped back, makeup free, no jewellery plus DS who was covered in crumbs. Not Parisian. I have a policy of only spending money in posh shops that still treat me nicely when I'm scruffy (not that I intentionally go to such places scruffy, but life) and Loewe were so lovely to me and made a huge fuss of DS. Not a brand I'd ever looked at before but if I'm ever in the position to blow big dollar on a handbag I'll definitely consider them.

Bo, I have done exactly the same with clothes and weight loss and gain in the past. I'm trying to focus my spending on accessories, handbags and shoes until I'm done having babies- I lost a lot of weight with DS but mindful of the fact it may go the other way next time!

botemp · 04/01/2018 11:35

Grumpy, my platinum doesn't go dull or grey any quicker than other jewelry, most of it is inherited though so the quality of yesteryear may just be different? Thinking of investing in a sonic cleaner for my jewelry, don't know if those actually work well though.

canters, I always see Parisian children pull off the large crunchy triangle in the middle of a croissant, munch on it a bit then get distracted with something else, then, when no one's looking, the mum scarfs down the rest of the croissant (sometimes only half of it) in record speeds.

schmalex, if you can, try wearin them with sport socks on indoors once they have a bit more give. Also remember to take a package of Compeed blister plasters with you when you wear them out the first couple of times. Unless the Queen has been hiding her identical twin in an attic somewhere that would be odd, but maybe only breaking in the leather rather than the sole is helpful? I don't know, I tend not to buy second-hand shoes for exactly the reasons mentioned.

Elle, I think the models are a FR36 and would fit that size (I fit their FR34 which is my usual size, but preferred the fit in FR36 in some items). So it's a bit reverse COS I think, take your usual size if you want it fitted, size up for the slouchier fit photographed.

I've never warmed to nude pumps, probably because they feel so 'only shoe that conforms to Royal protocols that vaguely resembles these time'. With me it's also that I always have to fight the formality I have naturally and they'd only emphasise it. Navy is difficult in that sense because if you're doing a tonal thing of navy and black, black accesories work quite well but when it's the only bit of black it can look off. I like red or tan/cognac leather with navy, the tan/cognac being more versatile, navy itself can look a bit stewardess but patent navy does work well and works well with black too.

Will take note of the poor IdlF quality. The nearest Uniqlo requires a border crossing so I don't get there that often and only rarely place an order. I only mentioned it as the picture of the navy blazer and sweatshirt was originally part of the Uniqlo campaign.

I don't know Chango, retail seems to be acting very funny as of late. Harvey Nichols had a sudden last day of sales last night where everything was priced down from 70-85%, it all sold out quickly and the nice things were all sold out by the time I got my basket in order but I mean it was January 3rd. Think the store sale will continue but I thought it was very odd, Net-A-Porter has been quite aggressive too, starting well before Christmas. Massimo Dutti has already priced down everything to 60% here. I think retail has been having a bad financial year and just want to shift it all as quickly as possible now.

botemp · 04/01/2018 11:43

Retail staff in high-end shops are usually quite happy to see scruffy people, they're usually the ones that spend money. Granted, usually a more chic disheveled, than the twits. It's the ones that are noticeably dressed up that are more likely to come and look rather than buy that they can be terribly rude to, the good ones do train them to be friendly to everyone that enters as they understand it's part of their brand appeal. It's smaller independent boutiques that can get it really wrong IME.

Loewe is lovely, I've been lusting after their 'oeuf' bag which is just a basic black tote with the word oeuf on it but it's the most beautifully crafted tote I've ever seen. I also really like eggs, ever since I was little and had my mother quite concerned, who in turn warned I'd turn into an egg someday if I kept on insisting them for every meal.

Canters15 · 04/01/2018 12:54

Bo then I am indeed Parisian as that is pretty much what happened this morning! Alas I'd eaten a cookie before scarfing the remaining croissant....
Agree re independent boutiques. I popped into one yesterday where the designer is also the sales assistant, and is touted in all the expat resources here as the place to shop. She was incredibly snooty and dismissive, bordering on rude. I still bought a top as I liked the design and it fits beautifully, but was shocked when I checked the label at home and realised I'd paid the equivalent of GBP 50 (sales price, originally about 70!) for something that was 100% polyester. I won't go back, which is a shame as some of her designs were quite interesting.
I will tell myself I was the epitome of disheveled chic earlier Grin

Gonegrey31 · 04/01/2018 13:12

Bo re sonic cleaners, please be very careful of them for gem set pieces , my experience has been of diamonds shaken loose from their settings. After several costly repairs I have been warned off them apart from chains or other items without stones . Inherited jewels are no doubt very delicate, do be wary .
Thank you for all your fantastic advice and guidance . I now hang on your every (online!) word.....

ChangoMutney · 04/01/2018 13:20

Bo Have we discussed day dresses? I'm usually a trousers woman, but have been considering wearing dresses during the day - I work from home and in a creative role so don't need 'office wear'. Do Parisian women wear dresses?

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