So when does Estee lauder Advanced Night Repair actually start working?

[consumersucker]

Hello

I'm almost 30 and over the past year or so, I've really noticed my skin has started to age......quite rapidly and so I thought I should start upping my skin care routine.

I've been using Olay Regenerist serum and moisturiser with spf 30 for a couple of years now, but thought maybe I should start using night cream. I heard about the ANR and it got really good reviews. I heard they give out free samples, so I went to a Estee Lauder counter and got one. I got about 3 nights use out of it and yeah, I could definitely see a difference and then I was kind of locked in, so I ordered a bottle, which I was excited about receiving. Anyway, I've been using that for about a week now and my skin has gone back to normal Is this normal? Does it go up and down? Or am I using it wrong?

I don't put anything over the top, as I was told this would be enough to use on it's own. I use about 3 big blobs of it and massage it in for about 20 or 30 seconds. No idea really if I'm doing it right, but I would have thought this was ok.

So how has everyone else got on with ANR?

[ElBombero]

Dermalogica's age smart dynamic skin recovery is light. Or Estée Lauders daywear plus is good x

[madmomma]

Thanks x

[RonaldMcDonald]

i like kiss my face factor 30 spf, i used mac prep and prime for years and it is a factor 50.
I use olay fragrance free serum and I honestly think that I get as good a result from it as anything else - i had a horrible reaction to the ANR but I know people who use it and I think that you are supposed to give it 30 days or whatever

[madmomma]

Yeah I've used Mac p&p and quite like it but I put it on my chest too, and one ££ little tube hardly goes anywhere. I don't get on with clinique cityblock but I've just seen some spf50 drops on the dermatalogica website that you can just add to your moisturiser, so I might try those.

[consumersucker]

El, how long do these kind of fillers last? Do you not get a kind of build up over the years? My worry (after duck face ) is that if I start now, I'll need to maintain and top up on a regular basis and so end up......over filled? Does that make sense?

Lurking, I use SPF 30 (olay regenerist) It's quite heavy and does take a while to sink in. I know it works though, cos since using it, in the summer, I stay completely pale, which in long run is a good thing I suppose, but I miss that summer bronzy glow which I used to get. Oh and when you say "drink well", I take it you mean only drink the finest of wines Unfortunately, wine is definitely my downfall. I don't drink enough water, so I'll up that, but as I said, but I should really cut back the alcohol. I drink most evenings. Usually 1-3 small glasses I'd say. More on special(ish) occasions, less after the special(ish) occasions Joking aside though, I know this isn't helping.

These nose to mouth lines are really getting me down actually. Every time I look in the mirror, it's all I can see and I always do that pulling my skin tight to get rid of them and fantasise about them not coming back. These kind of lines run in the family though, so I was always going to be screwed.

[RonaldMcDonald]

I dunno - I think I'd rather use lots of a decent product that doesn't irritate my skin
I have never had good results with Dermalogica and I think that adding a £30 spf to your moisturiser makes little sense as you could use a cheaper better sunscreen for less £
Have you tried this?

[lurkingaround]

Indeed consumer only the finest of wines

Oh I forgot to say, avoid suger like the plague. It is evil for the skin. The devil itself. Really accelerates the ageing process. (And many other health consequences.) My downfall . I have a sweet sweet tooth that I do battle with every bleddy day.

Minimum SPF 30, every day.

Maybe consider nose-to-mouth fillers consumer? But go to someone good, I think fillers are easy to get wrong.

[ElBombero]

Consumer where abouts in the world are you? I could recommend a practitioner n just give them a ring and have a chat.
Usually get about 9-12 months out of a filler before it gets re absorbed and metabolised into your system. It doesn't stick around. Any permanent filler is band in UK (unless you go under and have a fat transfer which is partly permanent).
But drink drink drink 2-3 litres every day. You will see a huge difference

[lurkingaround]

No, fillers don't build up over years. They are gradually absorbed/metabolised by your body. How long they last depends on what filler is used. Generally, 9 to 12 months. But it could be longer. They are also reversible if you really dislike the result.

[ElBombero]

Banned even (sleep deprived n blurry eyed)

[lurkingaround]

X post ElBom

[DrNick]

Usual myth about water being expounded.

Your body expels excess water. There is no proof it changes your skin

[RonaldMcDonald]

agree nick

water bollocks and creams are bollocks - mostly

botox, fillers, a bha for blackheads if you are a grease monkey and spf to prevent madonna hands

[Dfg15]

I had a sample of the Estee Lauder Advanced Night Repair and thought it was amazing - it really did make a difference to my skin. But then I bought a full size bottle and it was completely different, didn't do anything at all. I did wonder at the time if they put a supercharged version in the samples just to get people to buy it.

[rollonthesummer]

bha for blackheads

What's a bha?

[ggirl]

people are having filler and botox at 30 !
did you smoke 900 fags a day or something to need that?

[DrNick]

Although isn't SPF considered to be carcinogenic now?

[squoosh]

I like Lancome's UV Expert SPF 50.
I love serums and am currently using Clarins' Hydra Quench serum.

Personally I'd run a mile from botox and fillers.

[squoosh]

Oh and Paula's Choice BHA gel.

[ggirl]

not all creams are bollocks
retin a works
and my new love glycolic acid night cream

[lurkingaround]

Retin A will reverse signs of ageing. If you could tolerate the flipping stuff.
Fillers don't reverse the wrinkle, they fill it up, the wrinkle is there, just puffed away, and it is still there when the filler fades.
Botox paralyses the underlying muscle that 'holds' the wrinkle in place, hence the wrinkle is smoothed out. It gradually reappears at the Botox wears off. But Botox can be preventative: stop the action, stopt the wrinkle developing.

There is word of SPFs being carcinogenic but no definitive proof yet, no dose ampunts etc AFAIK. Use one with micronised zinc oxide if you're worried.

[lurkingaround]

amounts not ampunts!

[rollonthesummer]

Retin A will reverse signs of ageing. If you could tolerate the flipping stuff.

Sorry-another silly question! What do you mean by this? What does it do? Why is it hard to tolerate?

[squoosh]

It peels the flesh from your face.

[rollonthesummer]

Really!?