So when does Estee lauder Advanced Night Repair actually start working?

[consumersucker]

Hello

I'm almost 30 and over the past year or so, I've really noticed my skin has started to age......quite rapidly and so I thought I should start upping my skin care routine.

I've been using Olay Regenerist serum and moisturiser with spf 30 for a couple of years now, but thought maybe I should start using night cream. I heard about the ANR and it got really good reviews. I heard they give out free samples, so I went to a Estee Lauder counter and got one. I got about 3 nights use out of it and yeah, I could definitely see a difference and then I was kind of locked in, so I ordered a bottle, which I was excited about receiving. Anyway, I've been using that for about a week now and my skin has gone back to normal Is this normal? Does it go up and down? Or am I using it wrong?

I don't put anything over the top, as I was told this would be enough to use on it's own. I use about 3 big blobs of it and massage it in for about 20 or 30 seconds. No idea really if I'm doing it right, but I would have thought this was ok.

So how has everyone else got on with ANR?

[consumersucker]

Thanks Gin

I'll probably give it another couple of days. Simply because, well I'm desperate Maybe my expectations were unrealistic, because every morning I wake up and just before I look in the mirror, I get a little excited and wonder, maybe today, only to be disappointed.

[GinSoakedBitchyPony]

To answer the question, about ELANR, I see results the next morning.
I'm NOT claiming that it has any long term effect on my skin.

I'm simply saying that the morning after I use it, my skin looks better. I look like I've had a really good night's sleep and my skintone looks more even. I'm absolutely not saying it makes any wrinkles look less apparent.
Whatever it's doing, it's clearly a temporary effect because when I stop using it, I do notice a difference.
It's the only expensive product that I use, and I continue to use it because it doesn't irritate my sensitive skin at all, plus itmakes a visible, if short term, difference. When it stops making a visible difference I'll stop using it.
My advice to anyone who uses it and sees no improvement within a couple of days would be to return it.

[consumersucker]

Flo, I didn't think you sounded harsh at all. I get annoyed at myself for giving a damn tbh.

[Floisme]

Consumer you're not weak - you've just been fed a big fat lie that's all. I'm sorry if I sounded harsh - I just get angry at all these images of women who've been botoxed, fillered, photoshopped and airbrushed to within an inch of their lives. It's given young women a completely unrealistic idea of what ageing is like. I'm sure you look lovely by the way and will do so for years to come.

[consumersucker]

Flo, that's depressing I know what you're saying though and I do wonder if I would be so concerned about the natural aging process, if I wasn't, as you say, bombarded by unrealistic, 'perfect' images of what beauty is supposed to be. Ie, tight, firm and completely wrinkle free. We're all told to 'fight' aging. We still live in an anti-age society and imo, it's only going to get worse, for women anyway. Maybe I'm just weak I'd love to say I didn't care, but I do.

[Floisme]

I think 'obsessed' is a bit harsh. Young people are bombarded by such unrealistic, airbrushed images of older women that it must be a shock when ageing starts to bite.

But I do think - and I really don't want to offend anyone here - that thinking about it to such a degree can make people a bit, well, dull! It's the style and beauty equivalent of always banging on about your uni/punk/clubbing days. They're over people, move on

[RonaldMcDonald]

I use botox and have had fillers
As with everything a light touch is the answer. I can still move my eyebrows after botox and give a tiny tiny frown of displeasure

I have used retin A previously and found it very good to resurface but it is a difficult product because of the peeling
I find the same but to a lesser degree with glycolic products
I love bhas---I wish I had know about them in my 20s

I use a good spf and fragrance free products that protect my skin from the elements and provide a good base for make up

Not spending £££ on pots of guff and spending £££ on botox etc has shown a massive improvement in my skin

[squoosh]

Glowing skin is what I'm after, I'm not very wrinkly so don't give that much thought.

This mask is supposed to be hardcore for a home treatment I'm just worried about irritating my skin too much.

[consumersucker]

Lurking, I've just started taking vit D 3. I was told it was really good for your skin, but haven't noticed a difference. But then, as you say, it's more for what you're not getting when your protecting your skin from the sun. I think the ANR has glycolic acid in it doesn't it? Has anyone had microdermabrasion? Was thinking this would be a little too harsh for my skin.

[josephinebornapart]

Look- at 29 you are in your prime.
If you can't be happy with what you see in the mirror now then you never will be.

I wasn't even giving wrinkles and ageing a moment's thought at 29.

You sound a bit obsessed- sorry.

[lurkingaround]

Then consumer, SPF is your friend. It will definitely slow down the ageing process. Take some Vit D too (to replace what you're not getting from the sun, I'mopening up a whole 'nother discussion aren't I).

I know what you mean about the 'glow'. A moisturiser with glycolic acid would help that. (I think someone upthread linked one). Or some glycolic acid facials or microdermabrasion.

[FuckyNell]

I'll use anything that claims to make my face look less like a bagos.

[pixiegumboot]

I've not read the full thread but my answer is never. Its shit.

[consumersucker]

Not really sure what to believe. I hate the idea of being ripped off. I don't believe that creams can get rid of wrinkles and I never did and I am great believer in 'prevention is better than the cure'. However, it wasn't really wrinkles( apart from those lines I've mentioned grrrr) that I was worried about. I mainly just wanted a bit more of a glow and also to help slow down the aging, if at all possible. I'm pretty sure though that at some stage I will be going down the filler route. I could do with it now, but at not even 30, I feel it could very much turn into a slippery slope for me. Ie, I think I'd get that 'fixed' and then I'd see all my other 'imperfections' and possibly want those sorting out too. I don't want to become obsessed with my looks, I just want a bit of a boost.

[Floisme]

Mumsnetters are obsessed with wrinkles but honestly, they are not the worst sign of ageing! In fact, you will look pretty ridiculous with a smooth forehead once all the other stuff sets in.

[josephinebornapart]

If you use Botox as a preventative, then you are paralysing your muscles. This means your face will be frozen and expressionless.
Is this a good look?

[lurkingaround]

I don't like my wrinkles and I wish like LittleBabyPigsus says, we could change our attitude to wrinkles.

[lurkingaround]

It is very unusual for Botox to cause wrinkles. If you use it for many years, it will cause the muscle to get weaker and smaller from disuse. So theoretically it may 'change' a face because the supporting structures (the muscle) is weaker. For the vast majority of people Botox is preventative.

[LittleBabyPigsus]

The idea that wrinkles are horrendous things to be avoided at all cost is the real bollocks tbh. Why not, you know, embrace the wrinkles?

[squoosh]

I've read of doctors saying the exact opposite, that the premature use of botox can actually be ageing.

[lurkingaround]

No, Retin A isn't a cosmetic. I mention it in relation to reversing the signs of ageing, which it does and is proven to do.

Botox can be preventative. If you don't/never frown you won't get '11s', and, so yes, Botox is preventative if you keep using it. It's the same for the other forehead muscles.

[squoosh]

I really don't buy the idea of 'preventative botox'.

[josephinebornapart]

Creams cannot reverse ageing.
They can plump up the upper layers of the dermis so it looks as if he wrinkles have gone a little.

Retinol can remove layers of skin - which is why it burns- so that wrinkles are shallower.

Fillers and Botox at 30 is plain bonkers. If you look old at 30 then the likelihood is you have abused your skin with sun, alcohol and fags. Oh and crap food.

A little tweak maybe in your 50s and 60s, with an expert touch, maybe.

[Floisme]

Retin A isn't a cosmetic though, is it? It's a drug. There's a big difference, surely?