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Mum’s chaotic love life

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YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 12:38

I’m simply here to vent to anyone that can sympathise as I have no one in real life that has any experience with my situation.

DH’s exgf and mother to my SDs is a whole mess. On social media she looks like she’s living the high life… she’s pretty, has cosmetic work done, designer clothes, lavish holidays, always out etc. You’d be convinced she had her sh*t together and was doing well in life.

The reality is that she is incredibly lazy and lives a hedonistic lifestyle where she puts her own wants and love life above the stability of her daughters.

She flits between not working (through choice, she’s able bodied and capable) or working part time, never more than 2.5 days a week in her entire adult life. She dates men willing to lavish cash on her and support her lazy lifestyle, not choosing men who are good partners or actually care about her or the kids.

In the 8.5 years I’ve been with DH, she has had at least 4 boyfriends that she’s introduced to the kids or cohabited with that we know of. It’s a revolving door of new “stepdads” and we have tried our best to not interfere as the kids don’t appear to have been in any danger, but obviously it’s an unstable home life.

SDs are now 19 & 15 so there’s very little DH can do about it in terms of custody as one is an adult and we’ve been advised that kids over around 11/12 years old generally get to decide which parent they want to reside with and unfortunately they both idolise their mum.

Their mum’s most recent bf seemed pretty nice… good job, had a nice daughter of his own, my SDs like him, he treated them well. So when my SDs said they were all moving in together into a new house we were so RELIEVED.

Their mum has a history of lying, it’s bizarre and almost like she presents what she wishes would happen as factual. This has ranged from SDs being told they’re getting a puppy more than 5 times (and obviously it never happens), to declaring they’re going on a lavish holiday to Dubai for a month, to telling them she’s been offered a job paying £100k per year, and the latest lie she told the kids is that the house they were moving in to with the new bf was equally and jointly purchased by her.

Immediately I knew this was a lie, her house was rented previously and she would never have saved the £40k+ for her to be put jointly on the mortgage whilst being unemployed or working for NMW part-time.

She’s a complete fantasist but the kids adore her and despite her wild promises never materialising, they always appear to trust and believe in what she’s telling them.

Getting to the most recent sh*t show, they did end up moving into this lovely big new house. The kids were proudly telling everyone about their new home, how pretty it is, how lovely their new big bedrooms are etc.

We could not have been happier for them! Like I said, we were relieved things seemed stable and nice.

Until last night. SD15 came over for dinner and when DH was dropping her home she told him to drop her at their old house, not the new one. He was obviously confused and SD burst into tears and told him mum’s bf had kicked them and their mum out.

Mum and SD19 had behaved so appallingly and entitled towards the new bf that they lasted less than 2 months all living together.

SD15 is humiliated and embarrassed that her mum lied to them about co-owning the house, that she excitedly told all of her friends and family about their new home, and their mum has yet another failed relationship under her belt.

So now they’re back in their old rented house… which begs the question of why hadn’t their mum given up her tenancy (they knew they were moving for over 6 months) or any of her furniture? Did she expect this to happen? If so, why did she put SD15 through it knowing it was as likely to go pear shaped?

We asked SD15 if she wanted to stay with us for a while, she said no but we have her this weekend anyway and intend to spoil her with love and attention.

I just feel so bad for her.

OP posts:
Illpickthatup · 11/04/2024 13:41

YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 13:39

Jealous? Of SD’s upset? What on earth is there to be jealous of?

Just ignore these stupid comments. Some people think Stepmums are all evil and incapable of loving their stepkids.

IndecentPropolis · 11/04/2024 13:42

This is Mumsnet. You’re the stepmom. Therefore you will always be in the wrong. It’s laughable.

Of course this woman sounds awful. If anyone wrote an OP describing her life, everyone would be piling in to lecture her about her choices.

You sound lovely 💐

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 11/04/2024 13:42

Illpickthatup · 11/04/2024 13:39

Jealous of what? A woman who's just be dumped by her boyfriend and tossed out his nice big house. Sure. 🙄

Yes… if OP had just posted her concerns about love life affecting the children I would feel differently but the fact she had to mention the cosmetic surgery, clothes house deposits etc and stated ‘you would think she is doing well in life’ is so irrelevant and comes off jealous, their is absolutely no need to mention the actual mum’s lifestyle or looks as this has no bearance on ‘seems to be doing well in life’ and suggests an element of jealousy .. whilst I agree the boyfriends are a tad excessive and the house situation it’s simply none of OP’s business

YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 13:43

@Pantaloons99 thank you. I appreciate being able to vent on here as I obviously can’t in real life.

It’s so frustrating, I wish I could shake her and make her see the damage she’s doing to these two impressionable girls who are looking up to her as their role model.

I would also like to point out, that chaotic love life and living in fantasy land aside, she’s not a bad mother. The girls are loved, fed and taken care of.

It’s the emotional damage being caused that is concerning.

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whathannahsaid · 11/04/2024 13:45

I've been in this situation but as the mum, ds was living with me and stayed weekends with his dad.
Every time he came back from their house he would complain that they had done such and such or said such and such.
I had his dad's partner confront me one day with a load of lies that ds had told her, turned out they were exactly the same things as what he's come back telling me about them.
He's in his 30s now and openly admits he tried to play us off against each other, examples such as mum forgot my birthday so dad would go out and do extra feeling bad for him, then come home and say dad forgot it was my birthday so I'd do the same to make it up to him and we both thought the other were terrible parents until sm confronted me and we put our story's together and worked out what was actually going on, since then we worked together and discovered neither of us are actually bad people we just both fell for his tactics.
He did this from age 6.

YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 13:47

@TwinklyRoseTurtle it was to provide background on why she has picked the men she has and her general view on how she lives her life and how she is damaging her kids.

It’s difficult because outwardly she’s present as having it all together, but the kids vent to us and tell us otherwise.

It’s frustrating, that’s all. I just needed to vent.

I have a lovely life, I am not jealous of her in anyway. Trust me.

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Illpickthatup · 11/04/2024 13:49

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 11/04/2024 13:42

Yes… if OP had just posted her concerns about love life affecting the children I would feel differently but the fact she had to mention the cosmetic surgery, clothes house deposits etc and stated ‘you would think she is doing well in life’ is so irrelevant and comes off jealous, their is absolutely no need to mention the actual mum’s lifestyle or looks as this has no bearance on ‘seems to be doing well in life’ and suggests an element of jealousy .. whilst I agree the boyfriends are a tad excessive and the house situation it’s simply none of OP’s business

There is when she's promising things to her kids then spending money on herself instead.

My DSDs mum has promised her a horse, new bike, an electric scooter, days out etc etc. None of which she ever got, yet she went to Disneyland for 2 weeks with her boyfriend and left the kids, buys designer shoes when her kid is wearing last year's trainers that don't fit.

I'm sure OP wouldn't care about her lifestyle if it wasn't taking away from the kids wellbeing.

TammyJones · 11/04/2024 13:50

lunar1 · 11/04/2024 13:34

Keep doing what you're doing, be there, be stable, it's exactly what she needs.

I can't believe there are people who think 4 stepdads isn't too much! New partners mean massive changes for children every time, no loving parent should put their children through that much disruption.

Exactly
Here in mn we are told not to introduce a new partner was years
So this seem very contradictory.
Glad they've got you op looking out for them.

YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 13:51

@whathannahsaid I wish my SDs were lying about what’s going on, it would be easier to deal with.

Some of the lies have come directly from their mum to DH and both kids have told us the same things individually and separately from each other. They’re also no longer little kids so we have no reason not to believe them when they vent to us.

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YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 13:52

Illpickthatup · 11/04/2024 13:49

There is when she's promising things to her kids then spending money on herself instead.

My DSDs mum has promised her a horse, new bike, an electric scooter, days out etc etc. None of which she ever got, yet she went to Disneyland for 2 weeks with her boyfriend and left the kids, buys designer shoes when her kid is wearing last year's trainers that don't fit.

I'm sure OP wouldn't care about her lifestyle if it wasn't taking away from the kids wellbeing.

Absolutely.

She can live exactly however she wants, it’s only a problem when it starts to have a detrimental affect on the kids.

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waftabout · 11/04/2024 13:59

@YeezyBreezy you need to keep the judgment to yourself. You may not agree with her lifestyle and choices but it's not your business.

I agree that introducing partners to children quickly isn't great parenting and potentially risky but that's all you have the right to comment on.

The most important thing is supporting the children.

Validate how they are feeling without resorting to criticising their mum. They won't want to hear it from you or dad even if they know it's true.

If they don't want to live with their dad, you're right that a court won't force this unless there are safeguarding concerns.

Just understand, listen and support. Be the safe and stable base whatever happens with mum.

TheCheekyKob · 11/04/2024 14:12

Well it was smart for her not to give up her tenancy for a boyfriend so it’s good she didn’t do that. At least they have somewhere to live. Don’t see how that’s a problem really.

Tbh maybe someone needs to chat to SD19 about not being a dick to a new bf when they are living in his house?! Might be a reason she can’t keep a boyfriend if the kids are entitled and horrible to them.

YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 14:26

@TheCheekyKob I can’t disagree with anything you’ve written.

I agree it’s good she kept her tenancy, I just don’t understand why she’d put the kids through all the drama of moving in if she knew thought there was a good chance of it going belly-up? Why not just stay over a few nights a week and not move in and get your kids to take all their possessions and decorate rooms for them?

This is what has upset and embarrassed SD15. She told everyone about her lovely new home and has been excited for months.

Also, part of me thinks part of the problem was SD19 believing the house was equally her mum’s so treated it as such instead of being grateful her mum’s bf was housing her as an adult? The lies told prior are never going to be conducive to a happy living situation.

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YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 14:36

@waftabout as I’ve said in my posts, I would never ever express judgement in front of my SDs or in real life. I am only doing it here anonymously because I am frustrated and upset on their behalf.

I will never bad mouth their mother, especially not in their presence.

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somebeesarebastards · 11/04/2024 14:45

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 11/04/2024 13:36

You sound jealous and masking it as you’re worried about the children.mind your business

And you sound nuts

TheCheekyKob · 11/04/2024 14:53

YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 14:26

@TheCheekyKob I can’t disagree with anything you’ve written.

I agree it’s good she kept her tenancy, I just don’t understand why she’d put the kids through all the drama of moving in if she knew thought there was a good chance of it going belly-up? Why not just stay over a few nights a week and not move in and get your kids to take all their possessions and decorate rooms for them?

This is what has upset and embarrassed SD15. She told everyone about her lovely new home and has been excited for months.

Also, part of me thinks part of the problem was SD19 believing the house was equally her mum’s so treated it as such instead of being grateful her mum’s bf was housing her as an adult? The lies told prior are never going to be conducive to a happy living situation.

I can see what you mean about SD19 thinking it was her own in a sense although I suppose her attutide must of been poor which isn’t great regardless of whose house it is.

The BF must of really liked the mum to decorate two bedrooms for them and let them move in so their behaviour must of been shocking to kick them out within 2 months.

Unfortunately, I think the kids just have a tough lesson to learn which is essentially they can’t trust their mums word and she speaks shit.

The 19 year old must of known that her mum didn’t have enough money for them to buy a house together though?

YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 15:04

TheCheekyKob · 11/04/2024 14:53

I can see what you mean about SD19 thinking it was her own in a sense although I suppose her attutide must of been poor which isn’t great regardless of whose house it is.

The BF must of really liked the mum to decorate two bedrooms for them and let them move in so their behaviour must of been shocking to kick them out within 2 months.

Unfortunately, I think the kids just have a tough lesson to learn which is essentially they can’t trust their mums word and she speaks shit.

The 19 year old must of known that her mum didn’t have enough money for them to buy a house together though?

Unfortunately mum’s delusion has been passed on to SD19. She has no concept of money and declared she was buying a brand new Audi A1 last week.

Considering she has no savings, hasn’t built up a credit score yet to be in a position to apply for finance and hasn’t even passed her theory test, I would say it is unlikely to be true.

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YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 15:07

And like I said, the bf seemed like a nice guy. We’re disappointed it hasn’t worked out too!

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Illpickthatup · 11/04/2024 15:38

YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 15:04

Unfortunately mum’s delusion has been passed on to SD19. She has no concept of money and declared she was buying a brand new Audi A1 last week.

Considering she has no savings, hasn’t built up a credit score yet to be in a position to apply for finance and hasn’t even passed her theory test, I would say it is unlikely to be true.

Kids are biologically wired to trust their parents. It takes a lot for them to lose that trust. This is why the situation with your stepkids is so concerning.

My DSD has been let down by her mum so many times yet still believes when her mum says she's going to get her something or take her somewhere. Breaks my heart having to say enthusiastically "oh that sounds lovely" when I know it's never going to happen.

TheSnowyOwl · 11/04/2024 15:48

She dates men willing to lavish cash on her and support her lazy lifestyle, not choosing men who are good partners or actually care about her or the kids.

You clearly have a low opinion of your DH since he is one of these men you have belittled.

Perhaps she had a fixed tenancy for her property so couldn’t just hand in her notice and leave. Whatever the reason she kept the flat, she was clearly sensible enough to ensure a home remained for her and her children.

YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 15:51

@Illpickthatup yes! You get it!

It’s awful because you just smile and nod but deep down you know they’ll end up disappointed.

I learnt quickly not ask about the ridiculous promises made because they never materialised, e.g. I used to ask when I next saw them about the new puppy I thought they had picked up, or the dates for their extravagant holiday so I could put it in our calendar so we didn’t double book plans.

But it quickly became apparent that these things weren’t happening so I didn’t want to ask and cause them embarrassment.

Now I don’t even mention them.

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YeezyBreezy · 11/04/2024 16:01

@TheSnowyOwl they were young when they got together but yes I do question his judgement with her. He said she’s very different to the woman he met 20 years ago but I didn’t know her then so who knows.

I’m not going to lie and say when I think about it I don’t think he was an idiot.

Tenancy was probably just that, I agree. But why keep the majority of your furniture etc? They had 6 months notice of the move.

Why let the kids move in if you’re half expecting it to go wrong? It would have been far more sensible to have a trial of staying over and slowly blending the families together surely?

SD15 told us that SD19 and mum’s bf have never spent a night under the same roof before they all moved in.

It just seems like poor choices have been made all around which have resulted in SD15’s feelings and wellbeing being collateral damage.

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cuckyplunt · 11/04/2024 16:11

Classic MN example of first posts being unpleasant and judgemental and then everyone else wading in.

Minikievs · 11/04/2024 16:40

You're judging her for having 4 boyfriends in nearly 9 years? Get lost.

Illpickthatup · 11/04/2024 16:42

Minikievs · 11/04/2024 16:40

You're judging her for having 4 boyfriends in nearly 9 years? Get lost.

No for introducing her kids to 4 "stepdads" in nearly 9 years.

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