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Struggling with DSD

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Jojodiamond · 28/12/2022 20:19

Df and I have been together for 3 years, we’re expecting our first child together this summer. Df has a dd7 from a previous short term relationship. I have a dd12 from a previous relationship.
DSD visits every second weekend throughout the year - those are the conditions set by her mother. She has always been an easy, happy child who will listen and has a good bond with my DD.
In the past 3 months DSD has become increasingly difficult to be around. I know she’s just a child and my hormones probably aren’t helping, but she has stopped listening and started behaving rudely. It isn’t connected to the baby as we haven’t told her yet, and there have been no other changes in her life to warrant it as far as we are aware. She has plenty of attention from df and the wider family.
When she arrives on the Saturday morning she will suddenly start touching everything, rearranging ornaments/photos, whilst ignoring our hello’s and attempts at hugs. I don’t allow either child to go into our bedroom or wear shoes upstairs, but she then goes upstairs in her wet/muddy wellies and lays on our bed reading a magazine and helping herself to my perfumes. We gently coax her downstairs for snacks and to get her toys out, but she will walk past us and head straight for the fridge where she will bite into several snacks but not finish them. Df has to repeat himself several times before she is aware anyone is speaking to her, sometimes he has to be very abrupt but she is still oblivious. Then she’ll sit on the sofa and chose a movie to watch where she will proceed to blank us until it ends and climb all over the couch in her shoes (it’s fairly new and has tears in it now).
She finds it funny and sadly df let’s her walk over him due to guilt over the low contact. This exact ‘routine’ has happened 5 times in a row now. It gets worse through the day and she will even wander into our room throughout the night for ‘cuddles’ but we find her going through drawers in other rooms instead of going back to bed. I tend to sleep with one eye open when she stays.
If we have a day out together such as a park walk or an indoor play centre, she will demand things from shops that df will get her regardless of the price. It upsets me as he ignores dd exists in these cases, but I’ve made a point of buying dd the same if he does this. I’ve began encouraging him to take DSD out alone or with his parents recently.
i have asked df if everything is okay with her at home, I wondered if she is going through stress at home or perhaps even showing some signs of autism/adhd as she is never still. He doesn’t see an issue and lets her continue, while knowing I find it rude and upsetting. She’s essentially ruling the roost when she visits and it’s not fair on my dd who isn’t allowed to behave in this way in her own home, never mind to sit and watch her ss get away with it so she locks herself away all weekend.
I feel awful for thinking it but I’m very relieved and sadly so is dd, when dsd goes home. She stayed Monday and Tuesday this week rather than the Christmas weekend, and this is where my patience is lost. She destroyed some of dd gifts and ate all her selection boxes despite having her own. She didn’t thank anyone for her gifts, not even my family who kindly bought her some things. And worst of all she emptied playdoh on the stairs which took all of today to remove.
it’s got to the point where I don’t feel I can cope with her staying anymore because I’m constantly on edge wondering what she will do or break next time. I’ve been crying this evening knowing when the baby arrives it will be hell on earth juggling her behaviour while caring for a newborn, but I don’t feel like I can be open to df as she is his daughter so of course he thinks the world of her.
I’m sadly wondering if I made a huge mistake settling with someone who already had a child, and is too soft with punishments, Im clearly not built to be step mum. I’ve tried so hard to treat her like my dd and build a bond with her, but I’m beginning to resent how I feel in my home when she stays. Df does 90% of the care for her so I can keep away, but I know eventually it will become obvious how I feel. I don’t know how to approach the subject with df without it becoming an argument, but I know something needs to change before the baby arrives. Everyone has their own parenting style but I have always strongly disagreed with how she is raised, I kept my mouth shut about that because I’d never judge parents for choices they make, but those choices have resulted in a child who knows no boundaries. My parents think she is acting up because she doesn’t want her dad to have a new family, but she has had 3 years of us altogether and has never behaved this way before.
can anyone advise me of how to handle this? Please be kind, it’s a first for me and I’m at a loss what to do short of ending the engagement and relationship altogether.

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FurAndFeathers · 28/12/2022 22:35

This
plus your DP needs to speak to her school to see if they’ve noticed anything.

He needs to get the contact sorted properly and then parent this poor child

Agree with these posts. Her behaviour is highly unusual. If this was my child I’d be extremely worried. Has DH spent time with her to find out what’s going on? Has he considered professional help?

You should not have to live with this! definitely get locks for your and DD’s rooms. No one has the right to treat you and your home in this way.

Can DH collect her from mums and/or go straight out for a walk or a coffee and chat with her before she comes to yours so she has some time to adjust/open up?

He will achieve nothing by being a Disney dad. Perhaps point out to him that she clearly needs help and ignoring her behaviour because he feels guilty is letting his DD down. Ask him what he’d expect you to do if this was your DD.

And your instincts about you baby are spot on. Don’t leave them alone for a second.

Sellorkeep · 29/12/2022 10:16

Can your DP talk to her school teacher to see if they have noticed anything?
In any situation where the contact is unstable/controlled by one parent then an order can be invaluable for establishing routine. He should think about getting one in place.
To be honest it sounds like your DP is babysitting rather than parenting his child. The change in behaviour has gone on for long enough to be concerning - he needs to react!

Fireandflight · 29/12/2022 10:41

Even assuming autism, and you don't really know, it's no excuse for rifling through drawers and being generally disrespectful. Autism isn't carte blanche to behave as she likes.

Equally, if she knows about your pregnancy, that's no reason to suddenly start behaving badly. Not all children start being problematic when they know a baby is on the way.

The problem is her dad. He needs to start disciplining his daughter, and you need to let him know that her behaviour is jeopardizing your relationship with him.

If he wants to continue as your partner then it's up to him to sort out the behaviour.

SocialLite · 29/12/2022 12:10

I would suggest showing him this thread actually if you can. He can see your thoughts and feelings and what everyone thinks about it.

The situation needs to change, it can't continue as it is.

Jojodiamond · 29/12/2022 12:15

Thanks everyone. I briefly spoke to df about what happened this week, he again goes into a rant about her being excited and not wanting to upset her by saying no to her every movement.
The Pp who said he is babysitting not parenting are bang on the mark. He doesn’t see this.
I feel awful for putting this out there, but whilst all the family dote on her I currently see a child from the omen. She is the only child in that side of the family, lives with her mum, no partner or children to play with. Something isn’t right, but I don’t believe she’s being abused or anything. She’s pushing boundaries and being allowed to.
I need to think how to word it appropriately that there need to be strict rules or she will need to spend her weekends here with df and his family at their house instead. Harsh but enough is enough after dd told me this morning she doesn’t like her staying and would prefer to stay with her dad on those weekends.

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Hopeforrainbows · 29/12/2022 21:22

I still think you’re missing something here hun. You’re the one who has noticed things aren’t right. Df has his head up his bum obvs as he can’t admit anything is amiss. But dsd isn’t a demon child. She’s just a child. Every behaviour is a way of communicating something. She’s probably feeling really insecure.

you must be exhausted worrying about everything alone when you’ve got new baby to think of and your older daughter. But dsd isn’t going to go away. Dsd only seeing her dad at grandparents isn’t sustainable. The only way to sort these behaviours is to get dsd to communicate them in a different way. And it seems if her dad has his head up his bum, and her mum doesn’t bother, then you might just have to be dsds guardian angel and deal with it. She’s old enough for you to ask opener questions like ‘I wonder if you feel… or open statements like ‘I think if my mum and dad lived in different houses I’d feel a bit confused. Or ‘I can see you’re feeling hungry. I like your independence. Maybe we can decide together when snack time is and you can be big girl and get us all a snack? ‘

or

‘I noticed you really like touching those things? I wonder what it is you like about them? I like them being this way because xyz. Do you want some ornaments you can organise in your room? If I accidentally put mine in the wrong places could you put them back for me. That’s very helpful.

that sort of thing includes her. Makes her feel grown up and a part of the family. If df can’t join in with that I’d have serious words with him. Giving her the wrong attention for the wrong reason. She seeking attention because she’s insecure.

Poor dsd and poor you having to sort it alone.

Hopeforrainbows · 29/12/2022 21:33

And as for df saying he doesn’t want to say no. He’s in danger of being Disney dad. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

She won’t love him for that as she gets older.

No doesn’t have to be negative! Reasoning might lead to no but if dsd is part of the communication process no isn’t as difficult.

billy1966 · 01/01/2023 01:39

3487642l · 28/12/2022 20:58

It isn't odd at all to feel violated that someone is going through your belongings and acting with absolute disregard for your feelings, in your own home.

I think you have a massive DP problem if he doesn't listen to you and value your experience and your perspective. That is really, really concerning. Effectively this means you need to live on his terms and on his daughters terms in your own home. This is not ok for you and not ok for your daughter.

Wise words.

Your daughter needs protecting here.

This is a hugely rapidly changing situation that is going sour.

Protect your child.

Violetthedamagedbutterfly · 01/01/2023 02:40

I think DF have to prioritise this child because there is something wrong. They need to do things alone together for 2-3 hours every time she comes over. He needs to chat as they are doing
how are you?
how was school?
chat about favourite subject, food, TV programmes, what she wants to do when she grows up.

Does he sit and watch dvds with her of Frozen et al? Lots of parents spend hours snuggled under blankets watching dvds. Do they have a bedtime routine when he reads with her? Does he read with her during the day.

it’s difficult for us to imagine how her day goes at yours. Imagine we asked you to write down what her life in your house is like on an average day- what would you write? Imagine you had to colour code, things she does with you, things she does with dad, when she’s left to her own devices?

It’s great that you’ve noticed that she is behaving differently, now you need to find out why? Have you asked DD if anything is bothering the younger child?

Bigbadfish · 01/01/2023 02:48

Honestly with how early you are I would recosndier everything.
The pregnancy, him the relationship

She and him sound horrific. Yours and your daughters lives are going to get a lot worse for many many years to come.

He isn't a good parent. He's useless. Do you really want to be tied to him?

Theunamedcat · 01/01/2023 02:53

He sounds like a terrible father

If he will not address the situation he cleans up every time call his attention to it hand him the cleaning supplies tell him its not a problem therefore he gets to clean it up price up a new sofa for him to pay for too chocolate taken from your dd? While your out can you replace xyz for dd please thanks! Etc etc

Personally I would be reconsidering my relationship with him is it your home jointly?

templesit · 01/01/2023 22:41

This sounds awful op.

Something needs doing by your dp asap otherwise you will dread your new baby coming. Which I can't blame you, DSD will do things to upset and disturb baby given this recent behaviour as even the most well behaved DC and SC will often seek attention and reassurance (when a new baby arrives) but this would likely be dangerous/ unsafe potentially with DSD.

If your DD goes to her dads regularly it's a good idea she goes when DSD visits to have a break from her and I agree with a lock on DD's door.

What are the consequences for DSD for her recent behaviour? Did she have to replace DD's chocolate etc?

What has happened in DSD's life in the last 3-6 months? Something may have triggered this behaviour, has she changed at mums? At school?

You need to speak with dp asap about changes starting now so you have a settled routine when baby comes.

Cazme · 10/05/2023 05:01

Sounds similar to my situation. My SD’s mother is incompetent and doesn’t set boundaries which in turn affects us massively. Only recently did she get diagnosed with ADHD and maybe this is something you might explore. My SD doesn’t listen properly, you have to tell her over and over, yet she will still forget the next time. She is messy and unhygienic. She has no concept of social behaviour sometimes and comes across as super rude (she’s 12yrs old). She is annoying and her older brother gets so irritated by her that he can’t bare to be around her at all. She has no patience and will always interrupt you when talking. She sulks when being told off about something and lies frequently.

I don’t know how much of this can be attributed to ADHD or how much is just her own personality.

I feel for you because she doesn’t sound very difficult to deal with and especially if she doesn’t follow your rules in your house.

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