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Can't decide whether to end things...

44 replies

Confused15551987 · 21/11/2021 10:46

Hi all, and thanks for taking the time to read this! So I have been with my other half for almost 2 years, and it has not been easy to say the least! His ex wife tragically passed away and we now have their 4 children full time (as of April 2020) making me their full time step mum (I don't have my own children, I'm 34 for reference). It has been a roller coaster of emotions as I'm sure you can imagine, and I have probably just bumbled along trying my best to cope because I love my other half very much. We have had lots of ups and downs with the kids, and my other half has relied on alcohol a lot to cope which has been the cause of lots of arguments between us both. He isn't particularly pleasant when he has had a drink...
Recently however I have been really doubting myself and wondering whether its all worth it. I don't do many of the things I used to do because my time is so consumed by the children. I work full time but when I get home its very full on, and every weekend is the same. I don't get much time to myself, although my other half does understand if I need a break now and then to see my friends or go for a walk by myself.
I guess I am starting to wonder whether, if I'm feeling this way now, should I call it a day and live my own life...? I try to imagine us together forever and, whilst I love my partner, I am scared of the future with all the children. And maybe its more thr case that I'm scared of being by myself, than scared of losing them.
Would be great to hear from anyone who can relate in some way...I feel pretty alone in this!
Thanks

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KylieKoKo · 21/11/2021 21:34

Op please don't stay out of guilt about the children! If you are filling in the gaps in his parenting caused by drinking you aren't helping in the long run, you are enabling him.

GoodnightGrandma · 21/11/2021 21:39

Imagine what the teenage years might be like.
You deserve your own children if you want them. Don’t let this ready made family make you miss your chance.
It’s a choice you have to live with forever.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/11/2021 22:29

I think it might be a good idea to have a trial separation.

Firstly, for you to get the space to breathe and really think about what you want. To truly 'feel' life on your own and whether the absence of your DP and the DSC create a real 'hole' for you that only they can fill or whether their absence is a relief for you.

Secondly, because your DP needs a damned wake up call to (hopefully) stop drinking since he cannot drink responsibly. Whether you go or stay, he needs to shape his ass up!

I do agree with some PPs, though. It's highly unlikely that DP will truly be open to another child since he's having such difficulty in coping with the 4 he already has. And the last thing you should want to do is bring another child into a home with an alcoholic.

BigGreen · 22/11/2021 07:31

Would you have to sever contact with the children if you left? Would it be possible to have an Auntie-like relationship with them if you do deeply care for them?

In your situation it's the alcoholism that would be the dealbreaker.

sassbott · 22/11/2021 08:34

OP, my heart goes out to you. What a situation to be in. I don’t have any experience close to this, but a few things stand out

  1. Your money is going towards these children
  2. You would like a child
  3. He drinks and is not pleasant when drinking
  4. You get time to go for a walk / see friends because your partner ‘understands’.

By your own admission, you moved quickly in the beginning, were finding your feet in this situation and suddenly this huge tragedy occurs and you’re faced with a choice. Stand and support the man you love, or leave him. The latter would have felt horrendous, so you stayed and took on this role.

That’s really kind of you and your intention came from such a good/ kind place. But here’s the thing, this is YOUR life too.

Re the money? Was this ever discussed? Did you/ your partner sit down and say, right what is needed for these children financially and are you happy to contribute? It’s a lot to ask that your heard earned cash (that should be going towards your savings/ pension/ house purchase) is going on children who are not yours. I wouldn’t be ok with that.

You would like a child. In the nicest possible way, he is not even close to being ready to bring another child into this situation. Do you really want a baby with someone with a drinking problem? You’ve already said he is ‘unpleasant’. That’s a very wide word - what does unpleasant mean? Please take note when I warn that (typically) behaviours in an abuser worsen when their partner has their child/ marries them. None of this will get better if you have a child with him.
Let’s put to one side how the existing children will feel with the prospect of a half sibling.

  1. His drinking. Out of everything this is the biggest red flag. His children have just been through the biggest trauma any child can go through. As opposed to making himself fully emotionally available. Getting support for himself so he can cushion and help his children? He instead is opting to use alcohol to ‘cope.’

Sorry but what a pathetic excuse of a man child. His children have lost their mum and this idiot is drinking to cope. He needs help, he needs to wake up and become a healthier human being himself and properly parent his children. Not just the logistics of school runs/ feeding them.

  1. Your you time is very limited. You say he ‘understands’ that you need some time out. Even the wording of that gets my back up. Understands? These aren’t your children, you’re 34 and your weekends should be full of things you want to do. Has he asked you at any point? What would you like your weekends to look like? Away from his children?

@Confused15551987 when I met my exp, within the first year his exwife made very serious allegations about him. Family courts advised him to have someone with him for contact from that point on. Muggins here was dragged into it, so for about a period of 12-18 months, my life pivoted around his contact with his children. Initially I was happy to help. It felt far too cold and selfish to say ‘sorry no, I’d rather go to brunch with my girlfriends’ vs ensuring he got to see his children. But it wasn’t my choice, these extreme external factors meant I was forced into making a choice very quickly and in Hindsight I can see I felt hugely pressurised into stepping in.

But then? Something shifted. Family courts awarded court ordered contact and I suddenly thought ‘no, I don’t want to be the person facilitating contact. I don’t want my weekends stuck with him and his kids.’ So I stepped away.

It was a hard decision to make, not made easier by my exp (who of course wanted my continued company and time). But I realised that unless I really wanted to spend my time in this way, I was wasting my life. And my resentment too started to grow.

I stepped back from contact and instead focussed on the relationship. But here’s the reality, my exp didn’t want that and ultimately, because his core needs weren’t being met (around his children), his resentment at my ‘behaviour’ ultimately lead to us breaking up and not in the nicest of circumstances.

What I’m saying is this. Sometimes we make these choices because ultimately we don’t have the courage at that inflexion point to say ‘no.’ But ultimately this is our lives.

I don’t regret stepping away, one bit. I at times have felt selfish, but then I look at my kids (I have children from my marriage), my life as a whole and I am grateful that I had the courage to say no, push back and tell my exp to step up and parent his own children. I have a really nice life without his noise and his toxicity. Your toxicity is very severely impacted by his drinking.

Please give some thought to stepping out of this as a first step and figuring out what your life looks like. You can still be there for the children, my exp’s children still message/ FT me and I’m always happy to hear from them. You don’t have to disappear. Your partner is not your responsibility and he needs to get help for his drinking.

Good luck x

FliesAreMad · 22/11/2021 08:51

Don’t become a martyr for children who aren’t yours. Don’t sacrifice your chance of children for yourself either, which is what will happen as adding another to this mix would be madness.

If you leave, they will cope, you weren’t their mother. You’re young, would you have chosen this if you’d known that you’d turn into a full time parent of four?

Also, your partner needs to learn to parent full time on his own. And his kids need space to grow into their lives. You are propping them up, finally and emotionally.

There’s not a chance in hell your partner can be a decent parent and partner to you for years, the kids are too young, and there’s been too much upheaval in their lives.

KosherDill · 22/11/2021 08:55

@Tattler2

OP, this is an unfortunate situation. You moved in with this man not having been with him long enough to really know him as a person. He has never had the opportunity to experience himself as a full time single parent , and it is possible that his children have not had time to grieve and adjust to the loss of their mother because you were there to step in to that slot. Why not step out of the living arrangement and at the same time get some individual counseling to sort your own life goals and plans. Maybe it will involve this situation and maybe not.

From your description, it sounds less like a loving relationship than an arrangement wherein you now have custody of 5 children and their alcoholic father. I cannot imagine this was ever the kind of life that you envisioned for yourself. Is this man working towards becoming able to support 5 children? Would you even consider adding yet another child to this situation?
Your partner should also be considering getting counseling to help himself and his children deal with their loss and adjust to their new normal.
It is unfair to these children for you to stay in this situation any longer knowing the you will likely leave. They have loss one mother, do not foster a situation in which they will have to suffer yet a second loss without any meaningful help .

There are far worse experiences than being alone. Right now , you are sacrificing your own happiness and quality of life simply out of fear of being alone. Your partner sounds selfish and inadequate ,but you are the one choosing to remain in this unfortunate arrangement.. Both you and his children deserve better, but only you are capable of doing better. L

Very wise advice here.

Disentangle yourself.

anothereee · 22/11/2021 09:03

What actually happens when he drinks?

Why are you subsidising his children?

Do you still go out regularly, go on holiday with friends etc?

aSofaNearYou · 22/11/2021 09:48

I think you are absolutely right to be thinking as you are and I do believe it is 100% not worth it at all. The only reason you are making such enormous sacrifices is because you love this man, but the relationship isn't even actually that enjoyable. You love him, but if you left him you could move on and love someone else who would require none of these sacrifices from you.

Tattler2 · 22/11/2021 12:09

OP, it does not appear that love has anything to do with this situation. It seems to be a situation based largely on fear (on your part and perhaps gratitude on the part of his children. You seem to be with him in large part because being with him may be preferable to being alone. His children are probably grateful ( even if they are too young to realize or express it) that you were the safety net in place when their mother passed and the buffer between them and their alcoholic father.

Love does not seem to be the driving force in any of this drama. Need , familiarity , and fear do not equal love. As the song goes " What does love have to do with any of this?"

Confused15551987 · 25/11/2021 21:05

Thank you so much to each and every one of you for your replies, it means so much! As 'what do I mean by unpleasant drunk' has been asked so many times, I will try to answer....he is opinionated, stubborn & quite argumentative at the best of times, but when he has had a drink (or 4) he becomes even worse. He will pick at little things, like telling me I don't show the children enough love, I don't cuddle them enough, I love the dog more than I love the kids etc. Or he will just be downright annoying, rude or (sometimes) angry! We have had massive arguments when he has had a drink (I am NOT argumentative at all usually) mainly because of me getting annoyed that he is drunk again...
In terms of me leaving, I am 99% sure I need to get out. My overwhelming feeling is guilt for the children, and for leaving them all in the lurch, but I know I need to put myself first for once...thank you again for helping me to find the strength!

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loantopil · 25/11/2021 21:17

This is me too OP except my DH was widowed with one young DC. I love him (and DC) dearly and we have a DC together but I wish I'd run like the wind. I cannot get anything right and there are complex emotional issues between us. He often used to say he wishes he met me first but now, despite building a life together, nothing is ever good enough. I would move on but be gentle for the children's sake. You don't mention their ages aside from being young but after losing their Mum, they are now losing you too.

Starseeking · 25/11/2021 22:04

You are 34, want your own DC, and yet are living with an alcoholic DP whose 4 DC live with you full-time, and are heavily dependent on you.

This isn't going to get any better, particularly after seeing your recent update. I can almost guarantee your DP using your desire for your own DC against you "if you want your own, it means you don't love his" etc etc. Either that, or for him there will always be an excuse that the timing is never right, and before you know it you'll be approaching 45 and your fertility will have declined hugely over the next 11 years.

I'd leave now, BEFORE you get pregnant. You will create a happy and fulfilling life for yourself, just not with this man.

ftw163532 · 26/11/2021 07:08

I wish you all the best in following through on that decision.

Confused15551987 · 26/11/2021 10:32

I 100% agree I need to handle this gently, and I will. It was and will never be my intention to hurt anyone in any of this. I made the mistake of allowing it to get this far, I think probably due to fear of hurting the children, but now I know I can't do it for the rest of my life. I deserve to be happy, and I need to put myself first.

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november90 · 26/11/2021 11:32

Oh OP I am so sorry you're going through all of this. It doesn't really sound like your partner is in the right place for a relationship, and I think you both want/need different things.
You are obviously a very kind and considerate person, and sounds like you've not put yourself first for such a long time which is what you deserve.
My heart aches for the children, it must be so so hard for them. But you can stop living your life for them, and I don't want that to sound harsh, but it's true.
Please do move forward OP, have the confidence to do why you need to do for you because that will be why is best for everyone in the long run! ♥️

AcrossthePond55 · 26/11/2021 15:32

@Confused15551987

I 100% agree I need to handle this gently, and I will. It was and will never be my intention to hurt anyone in any of this. I made the mistake of allowing it to get this far, I think probably due to fear of hurting the children, but now I know I can't do it for the rest of my life. I deserve to be happy, and I need to put myself first.
I understand you wanting to 'handle this gently', but remember that you need to put yourself first. Oftentimes 'handling gently' allows an abuser (because that is what he is) to gaslight, browbeat, and guilt you into staying. He will play the children as a trump card, stressing 'what you are doing to them' by leaving. Don't allow this to happen. The children will adjust and it will be his job to see that they do.

I suggest you get your plan together first and then tell him when you have the ability to leave right away to avoid things getting difficult or nasty.

Fireflygal · 27/11/2021 18:24

Do you have contact with their school? Any other family members?

I definitely think you need to leave but you could voice concerns to an someone outside so they keep an eye on the children. Living with an alcoholic for children is extremely difficult and will impact them. However don't give up your life as the responsibility lies with your partner to sober up and parent his children.

2 years is no time at all so you don't have to tie yourself to his man forever

jimmyjammy001 · 27/11/2021 19:25

It's unfortunate what has had happened to your DP and his children but you shouldn't let them emotionally blackmail into staying with him, if you are not doing the things you want to do in life because toy have to look after someone else's kids then I'm afraid it's time to walk away and do what you want, you have no responsibility to your DP and his children as harsh as that seems, you need to be living your life and you need to be happy, not sacrificing all the things you want to do in life to make someone else happy, having your own child in this situation will be hell, find someone who doesn't have children allready, it will make things alot easier long term and alot less stressful

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