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Is it right or wrong to seek custody?

39 replies

Magda72 · 25/06/2018 10:43

Hi guys - would love genuine non judgmental input here. I'm only asking a question that I, as a mother am struggling with & would really love to see what others think, so constructive input only please 😊.
Dp and I are together 3 years & he's divorced 5 years & has three boys aged 12, 15 & 18.
He's self employed & his exw never worked & still doesn't. Therefore he was & still is their main provider. If he doesn't work no money comes in so when they divorced they agreed to her being the RP & him being the financial provider. His work has him traveling a lot so he sees them eow, all banks holidays, does all the school stuff & takes them one on one for a full week every summer. He also does half xmas etc., takes them all on one big holiday a year & a few mini trips. He really does his best to compensate not being able to see them during the week.
Thing is, over the years he has become increasingly concerned at his exw's parenting. He gives her massive maintenance but she still makes everything about money, never seems to have enough & is constantly telling the boys he's stingy. She takes them on no holidays or day trips, doesn't engage with their schools, doesn't bring them to school if she doesn't feel like it, pulls them out of activities when she gets bored driving them or takes a dislike to a coach/trainer. The youngest has some learning difficulties which she refuses to deal with & the eldest tells dp it's an ongoing battle with her to limit junk food in the house & that she goes to her room early every night leaving him to 'police' the other two regarding screen time & bed time. She has also told them terrible lies about their dad & I & about my kids.
When dp tries to discuss any of the above with her he gets told to f**k off & gets accused of abandoning her. He didn't. They split mutually & things were civil enough until he met me & moved on.
Dp is seriously thinking of trying to get custody of them.
Thing is - I agree but I don't. I think the woman has major issues & I do not agree with her parenting at all. However, she is their mother & she loves them even though it's misguided & she uses them as weapons against their dad. I put myself in her shoes & I think of how awful I'd feel if having agreed to me being the RP my exh then decided I wasn't good enough to parent. Morally I'm caught, because how do you draw the line between emotional abuse & bad but good enough parenting?
The heart of the matter is that her parenting and dp's don't align. For eg he thinks third level is very important, she doesn't. He thinks activities are very important & she doesn't. He thinks them learning to pay their own way a little is very important & she insists on babying them. He thinks they should respect money, she thinks it magically appears out of nowhere.
Dp is very stressed with the situation & I basically agree with him. However as a mum I can also see the flipside & think he sort of needs to deal with the fact that he chose to have kids with a woman whose core values he didn't share & to some extent he has to just face up to the fact that his kids may not become the people he would like them to be because they have half their dm's DNA & that having made the decision to let her be the RP he sort of has to live with that & that taking them from her could do more harm than good.
I'd love to know what others think or has anyone been in a similar conflict.
On the one hand is it bad/negligent parenting to take kids from a dm because you don't like the way she parents? Alternatively is it bad/negligent parenting to leave them exposed in what you think is a less than ideal situation, when you feel you could give them what you think would be a happier, better life with better principles?
For what it's worth she will not go to mediation or family therapy of any description & will not acknowledge that her actions & words are damaging the boys' ability to enjoy their time with either parent.
I'm not sure I've explained myself very well here but I'm hoping some of you will grasp what I'm trying to say.

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Racecardriver · 26/06/2018 07:44

Well she doesn't care enough to meet their basic needs. Your husband would be just as bad if he didn't seek custody.

NeverTwerkNaked · 26/06/2018 07:53

@racecardriver there’s no such thing as “custody”... just a wide spectrum of different arrangements. Its not some all or nothing thing. Their dad could increase his time by just , say, one night a week to begin with and see how that goes.

Racecardriver · 26/06/2018 16:36

@nevertwerknaked it's often used as short hand for RP. But jess confusing than saying RP because it has another meaning.

Magda72 · 28/06/2018 08:48

@NeverTwerkNaked he can't do gradual decrease in work as he's self employed and if he did that the business would be run into the ground - that's why it has to be all or nothing.
@BounceAndClimb he has spoken to the eldest in the last 2 days who told him that they'd rather live with him but that they won't as she'd get so upset if they left that he'd be afraid of what she'd do. He also told dp she locked herself in her room last week having called him a disloyal s**t when he asked her to stop ranting about me & their dad!
That's what we're now dealing with.

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Magda72 · 28/06/2018 08:53

& @NeverTwerkNaked he doesn't just pay for the holidays & trips - he pays for everything - she gets over 30k a year in child maintenance from him & that doesn't inc anything medical or dental. He's happy to do this as he can & they're his kids but she has never contributed a penny to their upbringing & has no intention of doing so.

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Magda72 · 28/06/2018 08:56

Thank you all for your replies - will bow out of this now. Dp has spoken to his eldest & heard some very worrying things about what's going on at home so he's seeking his solicitors advice on how things can be managed in the future regarding his two youngest.
Thanks again.

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NeverTwerkNaked · 28/06/2018 08:57

Err she has “contributed a penny” (quite a lot) to their upbringing... you said at the outset he couldn’t have had his career if she hadn’t looked after the children. And even now you are saying that his job is so “all or nothing” that part time isn’t an option. So from what you are saying hisnearning power was zero if she hadn’t had the children most of the time.

I’m a working mum but even I can see that your denial of her contribution is horribly unfair!

Magda72 · 09/07/2018 19:10

@NeverTwerkNaked - we'll just have to agree to differ on that one. When my exh & I separated I managed to support our kids physically, emotionally & financially all the while working ft so that my ex could go back into full time education for 4 years.
I have no issue with sahm's - my own mum was one - but dp's ex is not a sahm in order to facilitate dp's career - he doesn't even have one! She refuses to work & and always has even when they were struggling financially. Personally I don't see much contribution in that attitude.

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SandyY2K · 10/07/2018 02:10

She sounds unstable tbh. Not supporting with homework and speaking to the eldest like that. Her behaviour towards him is abusive.

Madlife · 10/07/2018 05:17

I would leave my job and everything if I was your husband. It is not OK to put so much responsibility on the oldest and yet not to let him fly. But even worse is to not want to deal with the youngest disabilities. We all have our own perception of ideal parenting and that's OK, but as adults we have and must be able to communicate with the other parent so if there is a concern things can be tackled. I think she sounds depressed, does she have a partner, does she drink? sorry you are in this situation. get your partner to put in writing a list of things he is worried about and how he thinkscould be solve and pass it to her. Keep a copy

Madlife · 10/07/2018 05:27

or just a list of things he is worried about and ask her to work with him for a solution...

Icecreamandpineapple · 10/07/2018 05:54

Your dp was happy to leave his children in his ex wife's care when they were little, so that he could further his earning potential.

Why did he do this if she is supposedly not parenting their dc properly? . Surely she wouldn't have changed from being a good parent when the dc were little to a crap parent now they're getting older, which is what you're making her out to be!
Seems to me that you don't like the fact she receives a substantial amount of maintenance (which she is entitled to) and thats the real reason she is suddenly being accused of being an unfit parent.

Icecreamandpineapple · 10/07/2018 05:59

Posted too soon.
Hence your talk about seeking custody. Also, you've only been with your dp for 3 years but you seem to know everything about his ex wife and all that she supposedly does wrong with her parenting.
You sound too over invested in something that isn't your business.

Melliegrantfirstlady · 10/07/2018 06:08

I was on the fence until I read these kids have no friends and they aren’t allowed out.

I’d get them out of their like a shot.

Op I know it’s not your responsibility but they sound like good kids.

I would seek legal advice - 30k is a lot of money but if it’s court ordered I don’t think you can stop paying this on a whim!

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