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Pickles4005 · 07/06/2015 17:18

Does your OH do the decent thing and discuss with you first whether it's ok for his children to come and stay or say yes to EW and tell you afterwards?

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JakieOH · 08/06/2015 20:17

My argument is he is no longer responsible for his exw social life and neither are you. If it suits you BOTH to enable her social life then good and well but that is not his responsibility or yours. You should come first before his exw. That is a seoerate issue from being responsible for his children. Probably not going to be a popular thing to say but it's how I see it. They are not a couple anymore.

JakieOH · 08/06/2015 20:20

Saying that, it's not her fault it's your DPs! If she asked h and he said yes before checking with you that's not her fault. I would be livid with him if I was you, nig with his exw, if that makes sense.

Wdigin2this · 08/06/2015 20:22

Tryharder, why would you be p**d off if you asked your ex to have your DC outside of regular times, and he said he had to check the situation with his wife/partner? Don't you think he should have the courtesy to check with her that that they had no plans/arrangements for that day which couldn't be changed/cancelled......or, as the other adult living in their home, should she take a back seat and accept all decisions made by you and her DH, whatever affect it has on her life?!

Icantstopeatinglol · 08/06/2015 20:40

It's fairly simple really, the ex has every right to ask but op and her dp have every right to say 'no we have plans'. Just because the ex has asked doesn't automatically mean they have to agree. Also, why shouldn't her dp run it past op? Like it or not they are a couple and they might actually have something organised. My dh forgets everything and this has happened to us before so we went through all this too. Dsd is now older so not too much of a problem now.

Melonfool · 08/06/2015 22:22

We look after dogs for other people sometimes. dp called me tonight, he's away this weekend, can I still have dss? Yeah, fine.

An hour later he texts "oh, and we're having x's dog too". Um, we? You're pissing off on holiday!
So I called him - how can you agree to that without asking me? Two hours ago I had a quiet weekend on my own, now I've got a teenage boy and someone else's dog to look after!

He got the message. I love that dog though, so oin fact it will be fine, and having dss does mean the dog has company if I feel like going out.

Might book a facial.....

Savethesm · 08/06/2015 22:31

Jesus melon that sounds awful!!

Melonfool · 08/06/2015 23:06

To be fair, I suggested dss comes - he's not getting on with his SD and he and I generally rub along together OK. Ic he doesn't come the ex will just be antsy about it and demand a weekend to 'make up for it', then we all get out of such and it's never ending
As for the dog, dp knows I like that dog (I like all dogs really) and just assumed idy be happy. I a. OK about of really but I made TBS point - this weekend just gone dp was away, I had two dogs, weekend before dp was away I had dss. I had been thinking maybe this weekend I'd get a bit of space. But it doesn't matter, I was mainly cross because I always check with him before agreeing to any dogs.

I have arranged a gin tasting evening at the local pub with two girlfriends. dss can dog sit!

anon33 · 09/06/2015 08:39

Can I ask though; if your own children were non resident and asked you if they could visit outside the "normal" times, would you feel you had to ask your partner first? Consult an online family diary?

Melonfool · 09/06/2015 13:59

Well, I don't have children, but to be clear, the asking isn't permission, it's just double checking what is going on at that time. We have a calendar (online never worked for us) and dp would check and then check with me.
All his contact with the ex is by text, generally, so he doesn't have to say he's checking, he just responds when he has done.
She also doesn't respond immediately if we have to ask for something to change, so I assume she checks her diary and with her dp too.

Savethesm · 09/06/2015 17:13

Definitely anon. Mine is 50/50 with dad and I always check.

JakieOH · 09/06/2015 17:33

just interested OP, have you spoken to your DP about it again, explained your concerns? What was his response?

yellowdaisies · 09/06/2015 19:29

anon I'm often in exactly that situation (as well as being a DSM). I'd check with DH first if he was around. If not, I'd check the family diary, say yes if it was clear, and then let DH know. Though it's not quite comparable because I'm the one who does most of the cooking and is around for kids after school and he's not. So when my kids are here doesn't make much difference to him

Savethesm · 10/06/2015 09:34

You're right about it not being comparable really as if you're the one doing the cooking and care as I was (and incidentally having my things stolen by said dsd, plus all the drama - and COST she would always bring with her) it's not really just about whether the family diary is free - it's about how knackered you are, how mentally strong you are feeling, and what the reason is from Mum as to why she needs the switch.

For example - One Friday I'd done two 60 hour work weeks in a row (having my own young DD the weekend in the middle, plus DSD). We didn't have anything in the diary at all, but my god I needed that time. DSD's mum called to say she hadn't slept very well the night before and could DH have DSD for the weekend... she was a stay at home mum with ONE 12 year old DD ffs. So no sympathy.

I actually said yes - because I knew if we said no, his ex would tell DSD she wasn't wanted here and that would do nothing for our already difficult relationship with her. But the point was that my DH asked me he said he knew what a hard time I was having and would appreciate if I wanted him to say no. It made me feel like 1, he respected me. 2, he put my needs above his ex's demands, and 3, I had some say in my own home.

These men who don't ask are not respecting their wives and in my opinion are still in part married to their ex. I think particularly where they've been married a while, they slipped in to this subordinate status where they do what ex wants. Plus the guilt.. and the fear..

Wdigin2this · 10/06/2015 10:04

My DSD is grown with DC of her own, but it seems to me that, 'it's her DF so her wishes/needs are paramount to mine, because I'm only the DW!' This is never said explicitly, but there are constant little reminders...and I know I have another power struggle coming up in the very near future to deal with! Ah well!!

anon33 · 10/06/2015 11:06

save I'm shocked to be honest, I can't imagine turning my children away because there was something in the diary.....

I think it is totally understandable to ask if the parent is expecting the step to do the cooking/parenting/general management of the children. It does seem though from reading here that men often expect their wives/partners to step in and be the "parent" whilst the men get the fun stuff.

Wdigin2this · 10/06/2015 11:47

Anon....as ever it was and always will be!

JakieOH · 10/06/2015 17:17

Amon, that's double standards. People arrange things around their contact with their children whether they are RP or NRP.

Surely 'sending your children away' because there is something in your diary is the same if that argument were to be used

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