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what is "normal" when it comes to teenagers and bedtime rituals?

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brdgrl · 04/07/2011 23:07

DSD is 16. DH takes her a glass of water and tucks her in every night. She goes to bed whenever she likes, no set bedtime (fine - she is 16!!!). So whenever she is ready for bed - as early sometimes as 9:30 and other times well past midnight or even later - she comes to DH and tells him (not asks, but tells) that she wants her glass of water "in five minutes". Whatever he's doing then, he stops, gets her water, and takes it to her. Sometimes they'll chat then for ten minutes, and sometimes for 30 minutes or even longer. This is every night.

This really gets on my nerves. I understand that it is a ritual they have always done. And I understand him wanting to say goodnight to his kids! BUt this seems OTT to me. Whatever he's doing, he just stops. If he's working, or having a little time to himself. Or if he and I are doing something...if we are watching a dvd, he'll stop it and off he goes and I sit there waiting for him to come back. Since it is on her demand, rather than at a set time, there is no way to plan around it. If he keeps her waiting more than the five minutes she wants, she'll start calling him and whining. (She has even rung him on his cell, from her room...)

On the exceedingly rare occasion that DH and I go out on an actual date, if we get back after she has 'gone to bed', she's always awake. As soon as we come in, she'll yell from her room and he goes obediently off to fetch the water. So maybe we have been out to a gig, and had a few drinks, and a good, romantic evening together...and then we come home and I am looking forward to maybe having a glass of wine, or going to bed...and instead I go off to bed by myself while he has a chat with her, and frankly, any 'mood' created by the date is long gone!

She is quite capable, too, of using this tactic deliberately to interrupt us, particularly if she is annoyed with me about something.

We also have two other kids - DSS is 13, and DD is 1. DSS just gets a glass of water when DH takes DD hers, whenever that is. I put DD to bed myself at around 7:30.

I don't want to sound heartless. But seriously? Is 16 too old for this? Or at least - for this kind of bossiness about it? I don't exsactly want him to stop the bedtime ritual altogther, because I can see that it is important to them both. But it feels weird to me, and I definitely resent the interruptions.
Any advice???

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berkshirefem · 06/07/2011 16:36

This is another situation where the child seems like the one at fault but really, she's just behaving in the way she has been conditioned too... the buck stops with your husband.

Jacko80 · 06/07/2011 16:42

That is so wierd, why can't she get her own water? and dropping everything to run upstairs and tuck in a 16 year old??? no way would I put up with that.

brdgrl · 06/07/2011 20:48

lol. we are never 'busy'. three guesses why!

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berkshirefem · 06/07/2011 21:48

Oh no, that just won't do brdgrl! Have you tried talking to him about it?

Lorenz · 07/07/2011 07:22

Absolutely ridiculous. It's not "cute" and it's not "sweet" it's manipulative and stinks of "I RULE THIS HOUSE" attitude.

She's 16 FFS, she should be getting her own drink, her "bedtime" should not impact on the rest of the house like that of a toddler. This isn't a routine she's keeping for old times sake, it's a routine she's using to keep your DH in check and to remind you that she comes before you do.

People make too many allowances for stepkids imo, especially when they get to this age. Wanting to spend time with them shouldn't mean jumping to their every whim. I'd love to see these spoilt madams as wives in the future - I can just picture it:

"Oi! DH - Cup of Tea - Now" .

There is absolutely nothing wrong with altering this ridiculous fiasco slightly to make it fit in with you more. For instance, DH could run upstairs with her drink ( Hmm ) at say 10pm every night, "tuck her in" and chat until 10.30 or whatever and that's that. No tapping on the bedroom door and certainly no orders being shouted down from her throne.

Petal02 · 07/07/2011 16:55

Sounds more like manipulation than a ritual, to be honest.

brdgrl · 07/07/2011 21:21

I did talk to him about it - have tried before but didn't work, but this went a bit better I think...Last night he and I were planning to watch a short dvd before bed. I suggested he take the kids their water at ten and then we could start the show. She was still downstairs at 10; he gave her the water and said "I'll say good night now, because Brdgrl and I are going to have an early night". She was shocked and said "what! you aren't coming up to say good night?" He said "no, we are going to watch a dvd and make it an early night." She immediately started arguing the point -"Watching a dvd isn't an early night" - but it got nowhere and she let it drop. Hurrah - he might be getting the message. We are going out on Saturday (like, a babysitter and everything!), so I will try suggesting that he have the nightly chat before we go...wish me luck. I suspect she'll be sitting up with an ear to the door anyway...

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malinois · 07/07/2011 21:36

You need a babysitter when you have a 16 year old in the house??? What if the babysitter is younger than your DSD? Could make for a tricky situation :)

theredhen · 07/07/2011 21:44

Do you want to borrow my dsd for babysitting? Lol.

mo3d · 07/07/2011 22:12

I'm glad you've had one evening that wasn't ruled by you dsd. Heres to many more! Wine

brdgrl · 07/07/2011 23:56

thanks!

the babysitting is a separate issue...The DSD is keen to babysit, but there is no way right now. She's not got good judgement, and as it is, we're sort of trying to get her back into the role of a teenage sister and daughter, not a mummy figure. She used to "babysit" DSS who is just a couple of years younger, and it just encouraged her to feel like an adult/parent and infantalized DSD. Add to this that she doesn't respect much of what I say, and I don't feel like she'll follow my rules... I also don't want DSD to feel like she HAS to babysit, because I don't want anything to encourage resentment; there has been a lot for her to swallow already with a new baby and a new stepmom, and lots of new rules...

Baby and I lived separately for the first six months of DD's life, mostly because I wasn't sure we could all live together. It is a bit unconventional, I guess, but even though DD was a planned pregnancy, we didn't get married or live together until I felt things were moving in the right direction with the older kids.

Anyway, that's why we don't use her as a babysitter. We recently started letting DSD look after DD when we are home (playing and keeping an eye on her while one of us is somewhere else in the house), and if that goes ok, maybe someday I will feel more comfortable about actual babysitting, but I refuse to do it until I am sure that DD will be safe and that my and DH's decisions will be respected.

In the meantime, yeah - we can't really get another teenager to babysit, so that's annoying...I did lots of babysitting at that age, but honestly, sometimes you'd think DSD was a lot younger than she is.

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brdgrl · 07/07/2011 23:57

sorry, i meant 'infantalized DSS'.

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