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Just a whinge, not sure what to think/feel

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silverfrog · 13/09/2010 03:04

Hmm, well, not sure if dh is being an arse.

We have been together 10 years, married 8. I was not the other woman, he has been separated from ex for 17 years now. He has 2 children from that marriage, now both adults.

It is dsd's 21st this year. Relations with his ex have not been cordial to say the least - lots of game playing, withholding contact etc. Several court cases, orders ignored etc.

At times she has been ok, though, and we have managed a few occasions where everyone has gathered, including dh & my 2 dds - eg to support dss in a fun run he did (we all had lunch afterwards), dss' confirmation, etc.

Anyway, dsd and her mum have come up with a plan for dsd's 21st. Dsd wants a weekend abroad, with mum and dh going too. Dsd has history of not accepting her parents' split, and still says things like "i wish you and mum were still together". She doesn't remember a time when this was true. Dsd and I get on well, and she loves her younger sisters.

I feel a bit gutted, tbh. I know I am being childish, but it hurts.

For 10 years I have done everything for dsd and dss, really honestly everything. Obviously everything at home, eg cooking, washing, homework, but also researching stuff for het when her mum couldn't be bothered. Dsd is at uni now, doing a course she loves because I spent weeks working out how she could get there (she is not academically gifted), and took the time to listen to what she wanted to do, and helped her make this possible.

I have spent countless hours going through stuff with her (dyslexic, dyspraxic, AS), everything from teaching her how to separate out washes, to basic cooking, the lot.

And not a suggestion that I might want to come to celebrate her birthday too. And there won't be another proper celebration, she won't want one.

It just feels wrong to me. And dh only says that if he speaks up (he agrees it doesn't sit right to go and play happy.families for the weekend) he won't get to celebrate with her either. And I do understand that, but it still hurts. And if he doesnt tackle it now, what else will dds & I be left out of in future?

I can see it's a tricky one, but he did say he would raise it with dsd gently (entirely possible she hasn't thought pf it like that, although also possible she knows exactly what she is doing), but tonight, dsd brought it up, and not a mention at all.

Sometimes I feel like saying bollocks to it all - it really feels like I am unpaid househelp at times.

Sorry for mammoth whinge, just wanted to get it all out and not let it fester.

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nomedoit · 14/09/2010 12:24

silverfish I just re-read your posts and feel you put yourself down a bit. I'm saying that in a kindly way. You are not whinging, you are not being childish, you do count. Your DDS and your DH are treating you as if you don't exist.

Sometimes, you have to fight back. Why not present your DH with a nicely thought-out alternative plan. Fight a bit dirty - say that your DD's will be terribly upset to be left out. Say that you should all go. Then he is more likely to compromise on you going. (Sorry, but I used to be a lawyer. Old habits die hard but they are useful sometimes). You co-parented this young person, your are DH's wife, in your position I would be hurt and fuming.

Then show him some nice venues in the UK. Make a plan. Suggest the itinerary for the weekend.

What about this place?

ChocHobNob · 14/09/2010 14:51

Has he actually asked your opinion on the trip? Or has he just agreed to go along with no discussion with you? If that's the case, then yes, I think he's being an arse.

Have you talked to him about your feelings on the matter? Sd seems to be under the impression it's all going ahead and so does her Mum if they're discussing who's paying. You need to sort it out asap in my opinion.

Why hasn't he asked or commented on you not being invited? There's no need for him and the ex to go away together for her birthday. You could all do something together or as separate families. If SD comments "but I want mum and dad together for my birthday" she's old enough to understand they both have partners and that's not appropriate.

foolio · 14/09/2010 15:35

OP, I really feel for you.

My DP's DD is only 9 and she does this, but she's 9 and I can kind of understand that she doesn't accept that her parents are over.

FWIW, and I'm not saying this to wimp out of the trip, wish them well and let them get on with it. Just make sure you do something nice for yourself so that when they come back, it's not all about the trip that you missed.

How about a spa for the weekend? For DP's DD's next birthday, I am not going to sit around seething about the fact he has gone out for dinner with his EW and his daughter, I am going to do something nice for myself.

I don't think your DSD should be behaving in this way at 21, but I know that DP's guilt will never leave him no matter how old his DD is.

PS - hello mjinhiding, long time no type, hope all is well with you!

nomedoit · 14/09/2010 15:54

But Foolio, doesn't the 'guilt' get perpetuated by this sort of thing, by everyone tiptoeing around the children? I do appreciate that guilt is a feeling/issue in step-families but not I feel in this particular case. This isn't a little child who needs to be comforted. The DSD is an adult now and the OP has done an awful lot for her. How is this teaching the DSD to treat people? The OP has legitimate feelings and I believe they should be taken into account. In your case, I think the time needs to come when you are invited on a birthday trip, even if it is an additional outing apart form the dinner?

foolio · 14/09/2010 16:01

nomedoit, I think you're absolutely right, the DSD in this case is too old to be allowed to behave like this.

However, it would seem (hope I'm not being too harsh on the DSD here) that she's got to this stage by being allowed to get away with this type of behaviour - and at 21 I'd say it was a difficult habit to break.

I afree with you, OP's feelings are very important, as it sounds like she has a good relationship with her DSD, which is great.

I am a complete wimp and would just rather take the easy option. Not proud of that! But I do try to do something nice for myself when situations like this arise.

MJ knows a bit of my background here - I am the homewrecking Wh*re who stole some other woman's husband. All untrue but unlikely the EW would ever allow me to attend a birthday trip!

nomedoit · 14/09/2010 16:28

Oh, go on, Foolio - invite EW for a spa day, just the two of you Grin

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foolio · 14/09/2010 16:57

Hi MJ - like the message - learn to let go and not care what they think of you.

I imagine this has taken years of practice though?

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silverfrog · 14/09/2010 17:29

ooh, blimey. loads to catch up on, hang on, will have a read, and try to think it through.

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silverfrog · 14/09/2010 17:56

nomedoit: I do know how I feel, but I am trying to work out why I am feeling that way. Is it pure jealousy? I would love to go to Italy too, and even more, I would love a (small) child free weekend to go and explore. Is it just the rejection part? I am, after all, "only" dsd's stepmother. Of course her parents mean more to her. Is it irritation that dh agreed (well, he was ambushed by the suggestion, rather) without talking it through and nailing down the bits that no-one is clear on? There's a lot going on, really. And I was trying to sound out whether any of the aforementioned reasons would be unreasonable (ha! not going near AIBU with this one!)

It is not yet booked (which is why we are not certain that ex's partner is going. but going on past experience he will be. things like this are just not mentioned. ex in the past has sworn the children to secrecy over things - never to be mentioned to dad - and her relationships are one of those things. so it wouldn't occur to dsd to mention if he was going - it's all natural, as it is her mother's partner.), but it is Italy that dsd has set her heart on.

And that's another bit I am trying to work out how I'm feeling over. we asked what treat she would like for her birthday. this, traditionally, has been dh + relevant child - out for the day, child's choice of treat, extras out etc, then back for their choice of dinner and cake made by me (and dsd has put me through my paces with cakes, i can tell you - she still loves elaborate decorated cakes, and she has free choice each year over which design I massacre lovingly craft)

so, for the answer to come back as "oh, well mum and I have been talking and I think a weekend in Italy is what I want" was Shock at the least. and dh was taken aback too.

now, technically speaking we can afford it, but I am still Shock at the ask. especially as it is not part of her present, but an extra.

mj: to a degree, I agree. I do not care what dh's barking mad family think about me. nor his ex. but i do care what dss and dsd think about me. that, I think is only natural, as I care about them. and the things that are said and implied are of the hair-curling variety (I am sure you are well acquainted, sadly). dsd in particular is, due to her disabilities, very impressionable. and it does sadden me that she is getting very conflicted, untrue messages. but yes, I probably need to disengage, for my own sanity. I have started doing so, but I think dh feels that that means I care less. I do not, but I cannot carry on giving my all to and for people (they are, of course, no longer children) who do not give even the slightest bit back.

foolio: hmm, spa you say? sounds lovely, but I will be at home with small children, while dh yet again swans off child free. I understand what you say, but tbh, dsd has not really ever been let away with this type of thing before. yes, she has always come out with "I wish you and mum were still together", and she is very good at playing one off against the other.

but there have been times when dh and ex have worked together on this (sadly not enough times) - usually when dsd is trying to use us to get one over on her mum, and dh backs up mum instead.

so I really can't work out where this has come from. whether it signals a shift in our relationship, and this is a forerunner of things to come, i don't know. but I do agree there is an element of teaching dsd about other people's feeligns that is being ignored here. this just isn't somehting that should be encouraged, if you ask me.

if she has a reason for not including me (and I can't think what that would be) - we should be talking about it, not sweeping it under the carpet and not mentioning it. Not Talking about it surely gives the whole situation more power than it should hold?

I agree with mj too - I don't think dh is being an arse for the sake of it. he is in a very difficult position. he has been invited along (because tha tis how it is, no matter who is actually paying) and for once will get to be with his eldest child, on an importannt birthday. I can see why he has agreed to it (and of course, the whole suggestion came out of left field, had already been discussed between dsd and ex, and presented as the only option. he was ambushed into it, and had not much choice int he matter, unless he wanted to be cast in the baddie role again - and you only get one 21st.

I am close to feeling as though this is the last straw, tbh. I do not want to be ruled like this for the rest of my life. I understand what you are saying re: stepping back, mj, but I don't think that would work for dh & I. he would feel as thoguh I was rejecting his children, i think.

jesus, it's all so fucked up.

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Libby10 · 14/09/2010 17:59

This is awful. My main concern if I was in your shoes is that is this going to be a pattern for the future. I really think that your DH should say to DSD that he does not want to go unless you are invited too and has found it incredibly hurtful that she did not include you. I have no idea how she will react to this but the worse thing that your DH can do is to pretend that she is behaving well by doing this. Wait and she how she reacts before deciding what to do next. I wouldn't issue her with an ultimatum but give her a chance to rethink.

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Petal02 · 14/09/2010 18:31

The ex-wife's partner is going and you're not?? I'd missed that bit too. That's a terrible insult, and you should definitely invite yourself along. Stop being so reasonable, you need to kick ass.

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SingingTunelessly · 16/09/2010 21:05

Well have had a catch up and read this through.

Still can't believe how calm you are being Silver.

Summary: DSD has decided that as an added extra for her 21st she wants a weekend away in Italy with Mum, Mum's DP and Dad (your DH). Dad (DH) and you are to foot the bill for it all but you (Silverfrog her step-mum) are not invited...... as she wants a special family time.

Sorry I think if you just sit back and let this happen you will be very resentful at some time in the future, even more so than you are now I should think.

Have you had a chance to talk to DH?

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