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Really struggling with negative adult step son

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Tips4coping · 03/06/2025 20:57

Firstly I know this is mumsnet and step mums can do no right but lots of wrong.

Adult step son is 25. He is undiagnosed. Refer in pipeline but lots of referrals when he was very young for ASC and some diagnosis and courses from aged 3. Lots of diagnosed ASC in family. I’m paying to go private for him as he moaned about NHS times. Mum died when he was a late teen. He has a degree, works full time in a minimum wage job, struggles socially (no friends). He will not engage socially and doesn’t want friends or a pet. We are paying for a private diagnosis, we are getting him work based counselling and other counselling especially that work with ASC. We support him, we try to help challenge him, let him fail, catch him, accept etc

I have been in his life for a few years and now married to his Dad. Up until recently he lived with us, but we have now got him his own flat round the corner. I love him. But he is so draining that it is seriously affecting my MH and that of his step siblings. I am diagnosed Autistic and ADHD, one of his s siblings is diagnosed ASC and one is ADHD. DH has struggled with depression and takes medication but I wouldn’t say he is depressed.

SS has a draining personality I use the GP’s words and DH’s. He is exhausting. He moans about everything the GP had to cut him off during his last 30 min appointment and talk about time and other patients. I work in a highly demanding job (engineering) and work long hours. He will moan at me about his day and Karen’s non filling of the stapler, he just keeps going even when I call time firmly or say no. He then moves on the next family member. He has multiple issues at work due to his quirks and can’t see the issue that going on about the stapler is in no one’s interest. He can phone me 4 times during the working day moaning. I now will not answer.

The dog hasn’t been well she on meds from the vet and 4 times today he has told me graphically how she is going to die this week. Upsetting both step siblings. DH has currently gone around to his flat to have words with him.

He has moved out but works from home now which due to moaning about people at work - which they are keen for him to do. They get a choice to work in the office or WFH and he is strongly encouraged to work from home. His work is good but low level. He has been refused promotions as they say he struggles with people skills and management although they are working with him and paying for him to do courses learning social skills.

Meanwhile living round the corner he wants to pop around most evenings for dinner or because ‘he hasn’t seen anyone all day’. Both DH and I struggle we love him and don’t want him lonely but we can’t face 5 hours of Karen and the stapler.

We have tried family based activities eg bowling, Wii, tv etc but he just talks over the top even when told no. I know this is his ASC.

DH doesn’t like going to his flat as he treats it as a pig sty. I won’t go it is unhygienic and he says he doesn’t bother. When he lived with us, he had to be asked to unload the dishwasher, then again, the again and then he would unloading it moaning about it and then moaning about it for the next 24 hours. I kid you not he had his own bathroom but it was caked in faeces etc and DH employed a cleaner just to do his room (DH did charge him for this) once a week. So much stuff was damaged - not just once but repeatedly eg burning pans, breaking stuff, coffee up walls and he would say ‘errr yes that was me but I didn’t see what damage there was’. He once cooked on the halogen hob and wrecked it to the point we had to buy a new one.

We try not to exclude him eg went swimming in a lido outdoor Saturday so paid for him to come too-we all went, we are a family for 4 hours he went on and on and on moaning about something. His siblings love him but they were like Shut up!

I feel so upset. He has no friends despite support, counselling and encouragement. He has intense hobbies eg trains but will not join a club or anything. So this is his life.

He wants to come round in evenings and weekends and he literally sits scrolling on his phone, moaning and not contributing anything. DH is at snapping point and wants to tell him - no, you can come round one afternoon on the weekend and one evening and phone once each day to each of us and then gradually work down to less frequent.

I know this is MN and I will have some people saying get him to move back in or come over every day and some who say NC. It’s a balance. We don’t feel contact with us is making him happier.

We are approaching semi retirement - other kids are 18 and 16 and in midst of exams. They are really struggling.

I know someone is going to say I hate him, that makes me sad and upset, I really don’t. He’s family. He is loved and we know he is ASC. DH has two brothers that both live in supported accommodation diagnosed ASC and can not live alone. Neither brother sees the other although they are in the same accommodation, they mainly are in their rooms. They are non verbal really and non social although we make an effort to see and talk to them.

I really don’t know if anyone has any suggestions. Or can offer any support. Please be kind.

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Rumplestiltz · 04/06/2025 06:32

Your DH is in the same place as you. Reduce the contact. It’s not fair on anyone and may also be preventing him making the effort to build a life beyond the safety of the family. You sound like a wonderful stepmum. You have done your bit. It’s over to him.

perpetualplatespinning · 04/06/2025 13:45

Has DSS had a social care assessment? This could result in help for looking after the home and interaction, etc.

Has he had SALT and OT assessments?

It is far more likely to be can’t engage rather than won’t.

Tips4coping · 04/06/2025 21:11

perpetualplatespinning · 04/06/2025 13:45

Has DSS had a social care assessment? This could result in help for looking after the home and interaction, etc.

Has he had SALT and OT assessments?

It is far more likely to be can’t engage rather than won’t.

We have asked the GP for this and work for an OT assessment. The GP said social care is over stretched and stepson said categorically ‘it’s not an bad and they make it sound’

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Tips4coping · 04/06/2025 21:11

Ps thanks for your replies - very appreciated

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perpetualplatespinning · 04/06/2025 21:44

DSS/DH/you don’t need the GP to refer to social care. DSS/DH/you can request an assessment by contacting adult social care directly. Yes, they are busy, but, sadly, the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Employers wouldn’t generally refer to OT. Have you confused it with OH?

Tips4coping · 05/06/2025 18:50

perpetualplatespinning · 04/06/2025 21:44

DSS/DH/you don’t need the GP to refer to social care. DSS/DH/you can request an assessment by contacting adult social care directly. Yes, they are busy, but, sadly, the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Employers wouldn’t generally refer to OT. Have you confused it with OH?

Yes I meant OH. We are paying for several other things eg ND mentoring at work.

I felt bad as he caught me on the way home and I say I can’t talk. When I got home he was waiting in the house. I said I am going for a bath, your sibling 1 is revising and your sibling 2 has explorers at scouts and your Dad is taking him. Nothing urgent has happened absolutely nothing. He was to talk about his stressful day at work. DH is working on 4 project that all end this week or start of next. I have worked since 4 am.

Step son was off today on holiday so not even at work and wants to moan. DH has booked us both lunch and a massage this weekend and I’m booking us a family trip to the lido without him. We’ve told him he can come for Sunday dinner and that’s it this weekend. He has a counsellor (we pay for this) and mentoring (private). I just can’t take anymore. DH says we need to protect ourselves.

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perpetualplatespinning · 05/06/2025 20:41

Personally, I think DH should be supporting DSS. Yes, DSS is an adult. Yes, DH has other demands on his time. But DSS is a young person who is clearly struggling a lot and needs care and support.

OT will help. DSS/DH should look at that.

Tips4coping · 06/06/2025 18:51

perpetualplatespinning · 05/06/2025 20:41

Personally, I think DH should be supporting DSS. Yes, DSS is an adult. Yes, DH has other demands on his time. But DSS is a young person who is clearly struggling a lot and needs care and support.

OT will help. DSS/DH should look at that.

How can he though? He works full time. We have done years of daily verbal off loads, years of cooking and cleaning. Supporting him and challenging him to clean his clothes, bathroom, etc even organising a cleaner and then paying and then (as he is working full time) getting him to pay 1/2 his cleaner and then the whole &£20 a week and so on. How can DH support him? Any specifics we can do or this just words of ‘we need to’ as we are parents? We are paying for a private counselling especially for ND adults, we are paying for mentoring (autism in the workplace) we are paying £2 K for a private diagnosis.
Today I got home from work - step son was here. He had the day off work today and DH has supported him all day (took a day holiday) as step son said he needed help to sort some things in his flat. DH is now driving a two hour round trip so he can pick up his car. Which he has left at a shopping centre as it was in the garage (long story!) so it’s Friday night. Our plans are gone as DH won’t be back until 8.35 at the latest. DH has helped step son hire a van, helped him load and unload some stuff he wanted to move. No thank you - nothing. Step son has taken my kettle from the garage which is £100 job that is for the extension we are having built. It was brought for that - I’ve told DH to get him to bring it back. He has apparently broken his kettle - great he can buy himself a new one or I will but he can’t just take ours without asking. He didn’t ask DH. DH has just cried and said son as moaned about everything from Trump to the charges going up at the car park locally for 6 hours and his ears are ringing. I called son for a cup of tea and said ‘look your Dad is exhausted, we are exhausted we need a break’ and step son said ‘are you ready to go and get my car then?’.

I have just completed the eligibility for adult social care assessment and help from OT. Son has savings of more than £23,000 (because he refuses to spend money on anything, clothes anything) so social care assessment request declined.

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perpetualplatespinning · 06/06/2025 19:46

DSS can still have a social care assessment. His savings will just mean he has to pay for any care.

Sadly, some parents have caring responsibilities despite working full time. No, it isn’t easy. Yes, it is exhausting. But DSS is a young man in need of significant support and personally if I were DH I couldn’t not support him and limit visits to once a week. I have suggested ways to support via seeking professional help from social care, OT and SALT. They can help directly but also help DH understand his DS’s needs and how best to support him.

It is clear my posts aren’t the viewpoint you want to hear, so I will leave you to it.

Tips4coping · 06/06/2025 19:55

@perpetualplatespinning no need to be so snarky and passive -aggressive.

Have you been in the same situation or are you?

It’s easy to say we aren’t doing enough and as ‘parents’ of a ‘young adult’ we aren’t trying hard enough or doing enough. But have you been where we are or are you where we are?

It’s great to chip in from the sidelines. I’ve completed to form with the council for an assessment - it wouldn’t let me go any further so I will ring them on Monday and point out he had savings but needs help.

Both other children have been upset tonight. Both have had exams today. Both want a break over the weekend (one is ADHD, one is autistic, I’m Autistic and ADHD) again I was up at 4 am so not to bring any work home. DH took the day off work for him all day today but had projects at work due so he’s gone to get step sons car and then he’s logging back on to make sure everything with his projects is signed off. We don’t have enough hours in the day for work and for him. The other two - we run the serious risk of neglecting them. They both love swimming and want to go tomorrow or Sunday but not with him. So we have to manage that.

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perpetualplatespinning · 06/06/2025 20:03

I said I would leave you to it but I was not be PA or snarky. Your posts do come across as though you only want to hear the viewpoint that DH is right to distance himself.

I have 3 teens and a young adult with additional needs and DD1 was a disabled young adult needing a huge amount of support and care when she died. I also have AuDHD. It is easy to assume I don’t have experience just because I have a different viewpoint to you.

As I said, I will leave you to it.

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