Can unis request to see EHCPs and diagnosis reports?

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Daughter wants to eventually apply for nursing courses. How private can all these things be kept?

Dc1 is at uni and if he wanted the support/allowances made he needed to show proof of diagnosis. Dc hasn't got proof of one diagnosis so uni are paying for retesting and dc has to pay £50 towards the full cost.

Generally, the young person does not have to share their diagnosis or EHCP with the HE institution if they do not want to. However, nursing will have fitness to practice criteria, which may well require disclosure of diagnosis to occupational health and there may be an occupational health assessment. If the student wants DSA they will also have to disclose diagnosis and evidence for that.

Yes I’d expect that but just wondering if you had to submit personal paperwork.Also wasn't aware you had to tell anybody about an autism diagnosis.

DC may well have to disclose their diagnosis and paperwork for occupational health/a fitness to practice assessment.

DSA requires evidence so disclosure on some level would be required if DC wanted to apply for that.

Autism isn’t a health condition though. Doesn’t seem to be much info out there. From what I’ve seen you only need to declare a diagnosis of anything if you feel it would impact your job. Also read that professionals with autism can be valued. There can be a lot of stigmas with autism so I’m not sure she would be that confident in declaring it.

I didn’t say autism was a health condition. Occupational health covers more than what people typically see as health conditions. Autism is a disability (whether you chose to see yourself as disabled is your choice, but autism is legally a disability using the Equality Act’s definition) therefore it is covered by occupational health.

You don’t only have to declare what you think is relevant. For example, see this form from the University of Birmingham. You would also have to declare e.g. a previous eating disorder. Each institution’s check differs slightly, for example Brighton require your GP’s signature on a form.

I didn’t say professionals with autism weren’t valued, did I? Fitness to practice/occupational health checks have nothing to do with whether a professional is valued or not. Bizarre you equate the two.

I wasn’t saying you did.And re being valued it’s not really “bizarre” I simply meant it doesn’t appear to be an issue for employment so wondering if it is an issue for Uni.There is no mention of it on that form. Other understandable health questions I’d expect. There doesn’t seem to be any info anywhere.

It is bizarre. Because how a professional is valued has nothing to do with occupational health checks/fitness to practice. It is bizarre you mention someone’s value in relation to whether a diagnosis needs to be declared/fitness to practice/OH checks. Many professions have fitness to practice/occupational health checks both for university courses and employment itself. It has precisely nothing to do with the value of the person.

In order to be diagnosed with ASD one must have “persistent difficulties with social communication and social interaction” and “restricted and repetitive patterns of behaviours, activities or interests” which “limit and impair everyday functioning”.

Someone can’t have “persistent difficulties” that “limit and impair everyday functioning” but not meet the criteria to answer yes for “substantial effect on your ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities…” For some, autism &/or co-morbidities could come under several other points on that form too.

However, I linked to that form to prove to you that you were misinformed by whoever told you you “only need to declare a diagnosis of anything if you feel it would impact your job” and to prove it is not just what is typically seen as health conditions that need declaring.

In order to be diagnosed with ASD one must have “persistent difficulties with social communication and social interaction” and “restricted and repetitive patterns of behaviours, activities or interests” which “limit and impair everyday functioning”.

Difficulties vary hugely from person to person in severity, the what,how they impair and how well they are managed. Things can also change hugely over the years as you use strategies, learn and develop. It’s not a one size fits all.

Difficulties do vary in their presentation within the person and between different people, I didn’t post otherwise or that it was “one size fits all”. However, what I posted is the diagnostic criteria, therefore anyone diagnosed did meet the criteria at some point in their life, so whether that person still thinks it is relevant or not, it must be declared.

Unless you are suggesting HCPs are acting unprofessionally and diagnosing people when they don’t meet the diagnostic criteria - in which case they should be reported.

So are you saying it would need to be declared regardless of whether that young person thinks it would be an issue. Want her to do the correct thing when the time comes. Like with any disability it can make life harder but you learn strategies hence so many women not being diagnosed until later life.

Yes it needs declaring.

That is not the same thing as saying someone isn’t fit to practice or that they aren’t valued, just that it does need declaring as part of the fitness to study/practice and OH check.

Just like someone may have a disability of dyslexia, asthma, epilepsy or a history of an eating disorder and be perfectly fit to practice, but need to declare it.