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Jimjams · 07/06/2003 19:40

Well that went well- exhausting but well. We spent 3 days there - 2 days were spent on assessment and 1 day teaching us the programme. DS1 basically has huge sensory problems. I knew he did have -but didn't realise the extent of them. Apparently he has good gross and fine motor skills (!) but these are hampered by sensory problems. So for example the reason he can't hold a pencil properly is becuase it feels like holding a red hot poker!

We also saw an autism specialist SALT. He had his first ever proper official language assessment and he is way behind, Basically he understands nouns (and knows lots and lots of them) but nothing else. They said he was extremely good at hiding his language problems. The SALT also said he isn;t like most autistic children becuase he wants to communicate and tries desperately to, just can't (I have been saying this for 2 years and been told I'm kidding myslef- how nice to hear it from a professional). She said the diagnosis may be appropriate as he does have an impariment in communication, imagination and social interaction- (and the word autism gets you help at school) but I got the impression she thinks that really he has a severe language disorder and some sensory problems. Personally I don't care what they call it- but she's also going to provide a report for the LEA recommending
1 hour of SALT a day (!!)
while this is being set up with the LSA a SALT should be visiting once a week
then a SALT should be visiting twice a term.

She said seeing a SALT ever 3 or 4 months was totally inadequate. She aslo wants to extend PECS so it is being used to provide a visual structure for language ie I want ball, I want red ball, I want red furry ball iyswim. What a pity his SALT isn't PECS trained!

SALT also said she's a bit concerned by his own language as he's getting rather good at it. We've been sent home with a SALT programme as well.

Cognitively he's at age 5-6 for non-language stuff- which wasgood to know- I had a very wooly answer when I tried asking the Ed Psych a few weeks ago whether she suspected any learning difficulties (I didn't but I wanted to see what she said).

We also saw a physio and nutritionist.

We've come home with a structured programme and a whole host of ideas- it really was a positive and amazing experience- so many things make sense now. I am now even more peed off with the NHS though (bet you didn't think that was possible). Why on earth hasn't someone done a formal language assessment before now (it took 20 mins)?

Wish I'd gone to BIBIC 2 years ago. They have experience of a wide range of conditions from severe brain damage to dyslexia with behavioural problems. I know they're very experienced with children with CP and Down's. If anyone ver flet they needed more advice and help I'd recommend BIBIC highly.

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Jimjams · 11/06/2003 19:08

Thanks for that Davros. I'll clear out the toys and wait until I've got the balance beam and sensory corner etc set up and then I'll contact them.

Good idea Tamum- we also have a SALT teaching centre down here. I was definitley going to contact them if we decided to home ed, but may do anyway.

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eidsvold · 13/06/2003 18:24

Just to let you know - 1st printer cartridge gone.. they do accept ours which is good.

Jimjams · 29/01/2004 12:21

Had a review at BIBIC on Monday. DS1 has improved by 31 small points, 10 large points and 5 milestones- so that's really good. Mainly motor stuff. Now we need to work more on langauge- he seems stalled on that- although they did say they thought his speech was clearer (a lot of people have said that recently).

He spent the next 2 days throwing up!

Must get on with the sensory room.

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maddiemo · 29/01/2004 12:58

Glad that you can see improvements in ds1. We have an interview with BIBIC next week.
Sorry about the throwing up.

Jimjams · 29/01/2004 13:53

Is that a phone interview with Walla? We're still impressed with them. The therapists are very good at working with the children. DS1 loves the place, although he was not all that keen on being language assessed this time.

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Lou33 · 29/01/2004 13:56

Great news Jimjams, Im really pleased!

maddiemo · 29/01/2004 14:28

It is a telephone interview, not sure who with though. Glad to hear how good you think they are. We are excited about it.
Did you find it gave a good all round view of ds1 problems? We have chosen this over private SALT atm as cannot afford both at once. Our school SALT is very interested and is hoping it will be helpful to her as well.

Jimjams · 29/01/2004 14:34

Very good all round view. They complete a very detailed developmental profile. He's made a huge improvement on the areas the programme addressed. Much better coordination and much more able to tolerate textures etc.

They were also the first people who actually assessed his speech and language! Despite having been in the system for over 2 years before going to BIBIC no-one had bothered to assess his langauge ability. The report from the BIBIC SALT gave us the ammnunition needed to get a sensible level of SALT provision in the statement as well.

It's very intense, very hard work (I feel as if we have been through the wringer and we were only there one day), but very good. The ongoing support is good.

I now have my aunt and some cousins doing skydives for BIBIC

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Jimjams · 29/01/2004 14:36

If Graham does your interview btw his manner can be a bit odd (I've heard that from 2 people). He's very good though and manages to get the children to do loads for him. The first time we went another mother there who had a severely autistic son was really singing his praises. I think usually its Walla who does the interviews- she's very nice and very easy to talk to, and knows her stuff as well.

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fio2 · 29/01/2004 14:44

great news jimjamsSmile see all your hard work is worth it

maddiemo · 29/01/2004 14:54

It was Graham who called to arrange the interview. We didn't talk for long but I can see what you mean.
They said they may be able to fit us in for the school summer holidays which would be great for us.
I think I'm hoping for a better understanding of ds3. I would also like to find ways to help bully proof him

Davros · 01/02/2004 11:24

Jimjams, it was not longer after I joined MN that I first read about your BIBIC assessment. At the time I couldn't understand what it was and thought it was supposed to be some sort of educational program. I think, from what I've read, its more sensory orientated?? Anyway, if it is sensory oritentated its something we very much need advice on so I've contacted them too to find out if we can get something out of seeing them. SO, thanks again. You've inspired me to contact them and also given me information that I didn't have before.

Jimjams · 01/02/2004 12:00

Yes- very good for sensory stuff- they touch a bit on educational but its not really set up for that. For sensory (and also motor) stuff it is brilliant.

I have to ask you some advice about ABA but I need to think about what I need to ask- I'll start a new thread soon.

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RexandBen · 17/03/2004 23:53

We have our appointment at BIBIC in June for the 3 day assessment. I hope its as useful for us as it was for you Jimjams!

Are you still following their programme? Do you think its working?

Jimjams · 18/03/2004 10:49

yes we still do it. We were talking about it the other day. it's very good for sensory stuff, and motor skills- but it doesn't really tackle the language problems that ds1 has. We concluded that it was definitely worth doing but in conjunction with somehting else (which of course you are doing). Our first vist was last June

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RexandBen · 18/03/2004 10:58

OOh I'm glad it works - thats great! I'm really looking forward to going. Did you stay in the bungalow on site?

We are starting to realise that Benedict does have major sensory problems. So hopefully BIBIC can really help because these things aren't addressed by our own programme, and we will only get to see an NHS OT once every 6 months!

Ben really flinches away when we try to take his clothes off or put them on - almost like he's in pain. He's also the same sometimes whn we pick him up. Has anyone experienced this? Is this sensory or behavioural?

Jimjams · 18/03/2004 11:27

sensory I expect. We went home each day the first time, and satyed at my aunt's the second. The bungalow is handy though. They will be able to help I'm sure. Within weeks of starting the programme ds1 could tolerate dressing up clothes, belts, watches, and hats!!! All of which he used to rip off pre Bibic (would claw at his skin).

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RexandBen · 24/06/2004 17:01

We've just got back from BIBIC and I have to say that I was REALLY impressed with them. Their methodical assessment really picked up on Ben's sensory problems (which are much more severe than we thought ) but they have devised a great programme for him to start overcoming them.

I would highly recommend them!

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Jimjams · 25/06/2004 21:07

Glad it went well...... Are you busy sausage rolling?

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maddiemo · 26/06/2004 22:34

Glad it went well RexandBen. We are going in July. Ds3 sensory issues have really improved so it will be interesting to see what BIBIC think.

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