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Jimjams · 07/01/2004 19:49

This month's Junior has a section on developmental problems. So far only read the section on autism.

Anyway under "what can parents do" it says mentions SALT, art therapy and cranial osteopathy. No mention of PECS or ABA or Son Rise or anything like that. It mentions diet but only in terms of hyperactivity.

It then goes onto say "If she (sic) has difficulty speaking give her the words she needs "oh so you want a chocolate biscuit?" Don't give the biscuit until the child has made some effort to use the words rather than merely pointing and screaming."

what???? which planet? "merely pointing" blimey if my son could "merely point" easily life would be heck of a lot easier here. And as for waiting for him to speak- he'd put his head through the window!!!! dear oh dear oh dear.
It then goes onto say

"autistic children often benefit from a changed environment. A holiday by the seaside, a ride on a train or a drive in the country can encourage an autistic child to talk more and communicate more freely"

OK at this point I fell off my chair laughing.

In some bizarre twist of reality it also goes onto say "with help, many autistic children can learn to cope with their problems, they can live independently, get jobs and so forth". Well I;m all for positive thinking but really? (There is a seperate section for AS by the way- I haven't read it yet- haven't dared!)

It also says that you shouldn't out an autistic child in nursery and you shouldn't try to get anyone else to help. "The consensus is that its easier for mothers to do the work themselves, rather than spend huge amounts of time trying to put together packages of care for a problematic child. In addition, it can be almost impossible to arrange help for an older child, who may be difficult, given to tantrums and not yet potty trained".

No mention of what happens when the mother has a nervous breakdown then! Seriously have these people spent 5 minutes in the company of an autistic child? The older children are too difficult to look after but the mother is expected to do it 24/7.

Oh hilarious. I''m off to read the rest. Respond and I'll email the responses to the editor. Honestly!

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maddiemo · 07/01/2004 22:11

Probably the "Buy my book, line my pockets" planet.
Don't forget this article describes itself as "a comprehensive no nonsense guide"
I do wonder if these articles are designed to get parents in a tizzy and rushing off to see a private psych.

coppertop · 07/01/2004 22:13

I'm sure a nice holiday by the sea is all ds1 needs. I can give him SALT while we picnic on the beach - as long as he actually ASKS for his food. He can have a nap while I pick a school for September for him. Maybe in the evening I could smuggle him into the beachside casino to practise his superior card-counting skills...

pie · 07/01/2004 22:15

aloha

Seriously though, talk about some irresponsible journalism (NOT saying all journalists are irresponsible dear aloha and MI ). Write to the editor jimjams. Even better take DS1 to his/her office and tell him/her you thought the changed enviroment would be a benefit.

Jimjams · 07/01/2004 22:19

ROFL pie I would LOVE to do that!

he'd have a whale of a time- computers? He'd rename everyone's files.

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jmb1964 · 07/01/2004 22:39

Why don't we all have a Mumsnet outing to Junior's office??
I have often been irritated by the ignorance of some of their 'reporting', but have never had the energy to object, although this really does take the biscuit!
There was a 'fact-filled' article about asthma once which kept going on about the blue inhaler (salbutamol) being a steroid - wrong, wrong, wrong, and wouldn't have helped AT ALL in the education of parents trying to deal with their child's problem.
I've been reading their ideas about jolly things to do for your holidays (if you're a millionaire... )

popsycal · 07/01/2004 22:42

do it jimjams do it!

Jimjams · 07/01/2004 22:48

I will do - I've just sent it to one of my autism lists and everyone is currently spluttering with disbelief. I'm going to wait for all the responses then send a letter to the ed. I will email a link to this thread seperately as well.

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jmb1964 · 07/01/2004 22:55

Just looked at the Jill Curtis links - am feeling a little ill..

SueW · 08/01/2004 09:51

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Jimjams · 08/01/2004 09:57

Just think that she is slightly strange choice to use when talking about autism as boys outnumber girls massively. Most either keep it neutral or use he (in fact I've seen authors state that they have chosen to use he on purpose as it is much more common in boys).

The paragraph annyed me partly because she used the word "handicapped" which is a bit of a no-no these days and also I just thought it was incredibly patronising. I spend my life with professionals assuming that I am unable to accept diagnoses. I knew there was a problem a year and a half before the diagnosis- and this is a very common situation in the case of autism - hardly wishing it woudl go away, I was wishing that someone would assess him and start providing help!

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Jimjams · 08/01/2004 09:59

I'm not wirting an article by the way- I haven;t got time to do all the bits that need to be done. I will write a letter but need to make sure its short!

A friend did some further searching on our friend Gill and she wrote a piece for Raising Kids saying that autistic children hate change and some families have been known to have to return form holidays early. So god only knows where Junior got the "benefit from a changed environment" from.

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Blu · 08/01/2004 10:50

The big problem is in mis-educating the public, including Mums who may read the article in order to be more understanding. No family with direct experience is going to turn to an article like this for advice, but WILL have to suffer endless 'helpful' onlookers saying 'oh, have you tried taking him to the seaside'....just what you need when the supermarket have changed their layout and DS is approaching meltdown, Jimjams!

coppertop · 08/01/2004 11:21

I can just see it now. Ds1 has thrown himself to the ground because WHSmith has moved their aisles around, which means we have to change our route through the shop. I explain to tutting bystanders that ds1 is autistic/AS. Some well-meaning individual hands me a copy of Junior and says, "Well it says in here that he probably just needs a change of environment." I'm not sure I would be in full control of y actions after that!

motherinferior · 08/01/2004 11:32

I've not read it - but sounds maddening. I speak as someone who wrote an article for another magazine on autism about 18 months ago; and boy did I fact-check, meticulously, and consult with everyone I could...

Never written for Junior but do write for the pregnancy and baby version.

Lou33 · 08/01/2004 16:21

I don't get th mag Jimjams, but I think you should write a reply and ask them to publish it.

Davros · 08/01/2004 17:42

Urgh! Just had time to read this thread, haven't read the article yet. I'm amazed that so much claptrap can get printed, especially the trip to the seaside bit, where is her evidence for this claim? The idea that parents (and, OK, we mean mothers here mostly) should do everything themselves is just stupid, what about being a parent? Also, however much gold you've got in your cellar, your child needs a statement to access things, its not just a matter of funding. I'll read the article but what I've read on here has made me rather angry. I'm going to take it up with someone at the NAS and ask them to respond to it too. Grrrrrrrrrr

Jimjams · 08/01/2004 17:49

I did find a bit on statementing in the end but its pretty bland stuff and the line about statemented children meaning you can "take your pick of schools within the LEA" is just laughable.

Being Junior it just says that your can go private if you can't get SALT etc

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jmb1964 · 10/01/2004 00:19

Tamum - do you have some sort of link with Junior - board games??

Davros · 18/01/2004 12:06

A quick update. I have passed that copy of Junior to someone at the NAS. They have someone there who takes in press cuttings and responds or keeps on record anything of interest. They don't cover Junior, surprise surprise. I had to buy the magazine to see the article and I must say I thought it was a really vile magazine. OK, I'm not much into glamour mags anyway but this made me want to vomit!!

Jimjams · 18/01/2004 17:37

cheers davros- that was a great idea. Junior is very bizarre. Very shall we say um middle class I have a feeling they did a story on Treehouse once.

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tamum · 18/01/2004 18:18

Urrgh, just saw your comment jmb1964! I know exactly what you're referring to, but never saw it, I assumed it hadn't come out. You don't have a copy do you, by any chance? It was a purely mumsnet connection, I hasten to say!

(sorry, completely off-topic)

tigermoth · 18/01/2004 19:54

just read this thread and I can see why you are all up in arms about the inaccuracy of the article. Even I, a mother with no SN experience, can see that, thanks to your collective insights on autism here on mumsnet.

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