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Detentions for recognised problems that are on his SEN. WWYD?

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alison222 · 28/11/2012 12:41

So far this term, DS (Yr7 AS) has had several detentions that I think are unfair.
He has had a detention for not completing his homework when he had not written it down. In his statement it states that the teacher/ta are responsible for ensuring that he has correctly recorded his homework
The detention was given the same day at lunch so was over before I found out about it.
Then we had another yesterday for not having a pencil sharpener. Again detention at lunch so it has already happened. He has problems with organisational skills. They are clearly noted in his SEN.

I know that he needs to learn these skill, but am I being unreasonable in thinking that a detention is not the way to teach him this and will not help at all.

My instinct is to try to explain this to the teachers who clearly don't get it but I am not sure how best to do this.
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OP posts:
alison222 · 30/11/2012 15:14

I too love that sentence and since it is very similar to the one in the first e-mail I sent I am still Shock at the teacher who gave the detention, writing back to me and saying " I am aware and chose to ignore them I am aware of his needs" Hmm.

I know it seems a little thing to be annoyed about but it is the principle of the matter - if they can't get the little things right....

OP posts:
Lougle · 30/11/2012 15:23

Ok, will need to be edited for specifics:

Dear Class Teacher

Thank you for your email dated dd,mm,yy. I am reassured that you are aware of DS's difficulties, as my initial concern was that, perhaps, the information hadn't flowed effectively throughout his teachers. However, the fact that you are aware of his difficulties, yet continued to give him a detention regarding this incident causes me great concern.

As you will be aware, DS has organisational difficulties as stated in his Statement of SEN (page x, paragraph y). The special provision required for this is detailed on page a, paragraph b. There are several aspects of your account of the incident which can be understood better in the context of DS's disability.

1."This is not the first time he has not had all his equipment." Aspergers Syndrome is on the Autistic Spectrum. Autistic Spectrum Disorders are pervasive and difficulties will spread across a wide range of activities. DS has particular issues with organisation. If there is a specific issue with Mathematics equipment, a specific solution may need to be put in place.

  1. "He ws trying to take that of the person next to him so he didn't get into trouble." Aspergers Syndrome often features heightened anxiety levels and poor empathy. As children with Aspergers Syndrome are of average or above average intelligence, they are sometimes able to think of solutions to problems they face. Unfortunately, this combined with a reduced ability to empathise will mean that DS didn't appreciate the fact that a) taking someone else's equipment is essentially stealing b) it would cause distress to that child c) it could get that child in trouble. He will have seen the matter quite functionally. The teacher is cross because children don't have equipment, I don't have equipment, I need to get equipment.
  1. "He was not upset about being given a detention." DS may not show appropriate emotions in situations and as such may not give a usual response to a sanction. Regardless, you intended the detention to be a sanction, which I view to be an inappropriate response to a child exhibiting a feature of their disability. Just as you wouldn't punish a child who couldn't walk for remaining in their chair, it isn't appropriate to sanction a child who could not organise themselves independently as if they would not organise themselves.

Furthermore, DS is never enthusiastic about break periods, so a detention would be quite welcome in his eyes. This could lead to a passive reinforcement that poor organisation brings rewards.

I am sure that together we can work for DS's best interests and formulate interventions which will both improve DS's organisation skills and reduce the frustrations that occur when children do not have correct equipment. I would be more than willing to meet with yourself and the SENCO to update DS's IEP with specific targets and strategies that would promote this.

Please don't hesitate to contact me directly if there are any further issues which relate to DS's disability.

Yours sincerely...

Lougle · 30/11/2012 15:24

x-posted with Mariamamma Smile

Ilisten2theradio · 04/12/2012 17:23

Bloody school Angry

I have sent a reply which was a combination of suggestions from above, and whilst waiting for a reply I find that DS has had another detention today from his tutor because...... I didn't sign his homework diary.

Not something he didn't do, but something that I didn't.

What are they on? It is so unfair to punish him for his lack of organisation, but to punish him for my lack.....

Goldmandra · 04/12/2012 18:53

Have you name-changed, OP?

I guess they think they are punishing him for not asking you to sign it. This is because they are still not accepting that an adult needs to take responsibility for his organisation.

I think you need to have a meeting with the SENCO and go through his statement together.

Ilisten2theradio · 04/12/2012 22:28

goldmandra yes a name change - but if you say it out loud....

This is a different teacher now. I feel like I need to meet every one of them and bang their heads together explain in words of one syllable why this is not appropriate

Goldmandra · 04/12/2012 22:40

but if you say it out loud....

Would love to comment but would risk outing myself!

You need to meet the SENCo and insist that his statement and IEP are recirculated and a pupil passport is written as soon as possible.

Let him/her know that he/she will be informed the next time something like this happens and every time after it so he/she can address it with the teacher concerned.

BTW. I just go through and sign the whole year of planner pages in one go. I have constant conversations with their schools, sometimes several times a day. I know what is going on so I don't risk one of us forgetting to make sure it's signed.

herecomesthsun · 13/11/2021 19:15

Well that suited Rhys

herecomesthsun · 13/11/2021 19:15

@herecomesthsun

Well that suited Rhys
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