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janh · 15/12/2003 10:31

Find it hard to believe this story.

How could a school behave like this?

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dinosaur · 15/12/2003 10:33

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WSM · 15/12/2003 10:35

How can this be ? I would be furious if I were Mrs Buniak. What shocking behaviour, poor little chap

samACon · 15/12/2003 10:35

I don't think 'sorry' quite cuts it really.

dsw · 15/12/2003 10:36

Totally Outrageous - how could all the teachers/headmaster have turned a blind eye and allowed this to happen? They should all be held personally accountable. IMO.

coppertop · 15/12/2003 10:39

I think it says it all that the school didn't even enter a defence.

salt · 15/12/2003 10:41

This is awful, it must have been so difficult for him and his family.

Schools should be setting examples not aiding and encouraging discrimination. I am appauled to hear that schools can openly behave like this.

Jimjams · 15/12/2003 10:45

Awful

School trips will continue to be a problem though because of safetly issues (it doesn't comtravene the DDA if a child is left out of a school trip because of safety issues).

DS1 - who attends a school that is very good at including him- was only allowed to go on the school trip if I went with him.

oh the joys of ill thought out inclusion policies.

salt · 15/12/2003 10:50

Slightly different but did anyone see "Driving mum mad - Living with Tayler" last night? it was about a little girl with ADHD, they followed her over about 7 years... was truly heartbreaking. Written off already at such a young age made me very sad.

fio2 · 15/12/2003 10:51

so sad, but not uncommon if dinosaurs son was also left out of the the play. When my dd was at mainstream nursery last christmas she was uncluded in the school play. She was Mary! I am presumming they gave her the part of mary because it was a non speaking partGrin Got to say I agree with jimjams that inclusion policies are not going to work in all schools. I have found how different it is where I live now to where I am moving to. I think our move will benefit our dd loads because round here inclusion does NOT work, thats why alot of parents in Staffordshire are fighting to keep the special schools open.

fio2 · 15/12/2003 10:52

I saw it. I really felt for her mum. What a difficult situation all round, very sad.

Jenie · 15/12/2003 11:05

Dd got missed off her pre-school class photo and I was so upset by it, it wasn't even persnal they just miscounted as the children went in - she was off somewhere else playing.

When I was at school there was a girl in a wheelchair and she used to cry every sports day when she couldn't join in the running races, I used to feel so bad for being able to do it when she couldn't and wanted to so badly. No other races were setup for her to join in so sports day must have been horrid for her.

She was however included in everything else, even the xmas plays.

bunny2 · 15/12/2003 11:30

What an awful story. I cnat beleive there wasnt a teacher there fighting this poor boys corner. When I was a Head of Year I made sure all my year group were included in everything. I paid for one child to come to Thorpe Park as her parents wouldnt (awful family but that's another story), she would have been the only one not going and I thought that was bang out of order. I am glad the family have found a better school and I hope this school gets sued for failure to comply with the Disability Act.

janh · 15/12/2003 12:01

salt, I saw the programme about Tayler (was it a repeat, or an update? I'm sure I've heard about her before.) It was very depressing, anyway - although I wonder whether, if her mother could have brought herself to send her to residential care earlier, her behaviour could have been modified. 6 Ritalin a day didn't seem to make any difference

There was a prog on R4 this morning called "Community Caring" ({Listen Again page ) about an estate in Portsmouth which has had lots of problems. It included a woman called Karen who is involved with children with behavioural probs (have to confess I wasn't listening properly so not sure how it works) but she said she needs to see a child by the age of 3 to really be able to help - Tayler didn't finally get sent to the first residential home until she was 7, did she?

I thought her mother was brilliant with her - patient and loving - but, with her own issues about being in care, she made some bad decisions. The other kids in the family came across very well too - I felt sad for them.

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fio2 · 15/12/2003 12:17

The programme about Tayler just shows what kind of pressure families are under when they have a child with special needs or illness. I thought it was just awful that her Mother had a nervous breakdown, though I was not suprisedSad

Also about the getting help earlier thing. I often think that about my own situation. I could not accept for ages that my daughter was having problems and had actually got special needs. I was in denial for a long time, thinking it was just a phase and things would be alright and she would in time catch up(!) Only yesterday I wondering when I stopped thinking like that and accepted her disabilities and that she was never going to be 'normal'. In all honesty I can say it hasnt been that long. What made me think about it was dh in Sainsburys, there was a lady trying to rush dd along and out of the way and dh turned round and said she cant go any quicker shes disabled. I felt quite embarassed actually but dh is a bit like that and the lady just looked a bit embarassed too. Oh well.

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Loobie · 15/12/2003 16:20

fio2 was in a similiar situation yesterday,we took ds's and dd out to local family resturant complete with playarea for kids,i was asked to sign the boys in as someone was actually supervising in the room as there was also a birthday party being held there.This is unusual as there isn't normally anyone(staff)in the playarea,after asking if she was staying in the room and told yes i pointed to ds 1 who is autistic and said that boy there is my son to which she answered "oh yes him there he isn't doing as he's told he wont listen to me"they were both being asked to come down to get a sticker on their shirts(again something that has never been done before)well before i bit her head off i calmy said yes well he is autistic if you give me a minute to explain about him there and if there is any probs we are at table no.35to which she almost crawled into a whole.GGGRRRRRRRR.

fio2 · 15/12/2003 16:52

GGRRRRR for you loobieSad Glad other people understand, sometimes I feel like I am just being a moaning minnie, dh just says what he thinks - I just stew!

Lou33 · 15/12/2003 17:16

Thia thread is making me cry. And dreading when ds2 starts school, although I am comforted by the fact his prospective school is lovely, but they haven't had a child like ds2

fairydust · 15/12/2003 17:53

this made me cry - sorry can't say anymore

Jimjams · 15/12/2003 18:41

lou I was really worried as ds1's school haven't had a child like ds1 before (they've had AS, but never a non-verbal child)- they have done really well. So it may be great.

Hulababy · 15/12/2003 18:43

That is just awful. That poo little boy, not being allowed to join in. Makes me furious to think of him sitting there on his own not having fun with his friends. Saying sorry certainly doesn't seem enough at all.

tinyfeet · 15/12/2003 18:44

What do they mean by 'learning disability'?

fio2 · 15/12/2003 18:47

means he is learning disabled. Dyslexia is a learining difficulty. More serious problems means a learning disability. I hope.

tinyfeet · 15/12/2003 19:31

This doesn't make sense to me. How could they keep a child out of all these things for something like dyslexia??!

SenoraPostrophe · 15/12/2003 19:37

Tinyfeet - he's not dyslexic - learning disability is the term used for more serious disorders (broadly, the things that used to be known as mental handicaps).

It said on the news that the boy is autistic, but that the school received rather a lot of money for extra help for him. I found it very sad too.