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Decisions re DS's orthopeadic treatment - did I get it wrong?

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Blu · 16/01/2006 15:55

I will be upfront, and say that this is mostly a splurge about the responsibility of decision making, and about me worrying.

And please forgive me for this - I am in bits and i just can't talk to anyone about it, so thank you for listening.

DS has no fibula, a missing ray in his foot, and currently a 5cm discrepancy between the length of his 2 legs.

In his first year, we had to decide between courses of action, as he was a borderline case between what could be recommended. We had to decide whether to go for a below the knee amputation and a prosthetic leg, or surgery and bone-lengthening. We sought a second opinion, met parents and children expeiencing both, and our consultant was extremely helpful, but would not 'push' us one way ot the other. Bone lengthening is very confronting, whilst prosthetics have about the same outcome in terms of mobility, for DS's condition.

We went for bone lengthening because the 2nd opinion was v much 'we can take this on, no problem' about the high degree of discrepancy, and since it was beginning to be clear that there was a discrepancy in the femur length, not just tibia, we could have agreed to amputation, only to find that lengthening in the femur was necessary, anyway. However, given the level of surgery, and length of time in fixators, when I once said to our consultant that a prosthetic would perhaps be the way to go, she gave me a look which included everything but a nod.

Now I am worried that we took the 'easy way out'. It was hard trying to make a decision objectively with the thought of my boy's leg going in an incinerator. But we also considered what he would prefer when he hit his 17th birthday - his own leg or a prosthetic.

Surgery to enable him to walk was succesful, and now, with a shoe raise and splints, he is a most active litle boy. His joy since Christmas is to do all the dance routines from Charlie and choc factory.

BUT at our consultants appointment last week, she was concerned that his foot is reverting. She is talking about more surgery to graft tissue from somewhere else into his ankle to supoprt it. She is concerned that the articulation of his ankle is not what she hoped it would be (some bones that should be articulated are fused). The discrepancey in his femur in increasing, and he is at the limit of the amount of shoe raise he can use.

She has arranged an MRI scan, to investigate the bones and how they have grown, and she wants him to use splints in the day as well as night. i am worried that this will restrict his movement (they can't be Dynamic ones) - i know it will - he had them when he was younger.

And I am worried that in the end, he will lose his leg after all - but at an age that it will be far more traumatic for him.

Of course, it may be all right again.

I know we did the best we could in trying to make the decision, but this responsibility is now wrenching me apart.

He has to go into hospital in march, and I can't even tell my friends or my Mum. I just can't open my mouth to talk about it.

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Dinosaur · 16/01/2006 15:59

Oh Blu I am truly sorry to read this and feel for you, enormously, as I know what it is like trying to choose between medical treatments for one's son and what a huge and scary responsibility it is.

I don't really know what to say that will be of any practical help, save that DS2's consultant in Sunderland is a wonderful wonderful orthopaedic consultant and it might, just might, be worth taking your DS up there to see him.

I'm so so sorry honey. I'm gutted for you. Here to listen/talk/email/meet in person/whatever if you need me.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 16/01/2006 16:05

Im so sorry Blu, this must be so tough for you all, and such a responsibility of course.

I dont know what else to say really, except that i am sure that you have done your very best.

heavenis · 16/01/2006 16:08

Blu
I don't think you have take the 'easy way out'.
It's a very hard time for you. I don't have any advice to give,but want you to know you have all our support.

Dinosaur · 16/01/2006 16:12

And fwiw, I don't think you took "the easy way out". If you'd gone the other way, and then met lots of children who had sudcessfully hadh surgery and bone-lengthening, you'd be tearing yourself apart because you hadn't given DS the chance of retaining his own leg.

serenity · 16/01/2006 16:13

Can't really post at length atm (sleepy DD and sick DSs).

Just wanted to say that the decisions we make about our children are always the hardest ones, and it's always easy to beat yourself up over things when you look back at them. BUT, you know you made the best decision you could at the time. If you had made the other choice you could still be sitting here wondering if it was the right thing to do....
TBH even if he does have to loose his leg, then surely it's better when he is older, when he can be involved in the decision abd it's not something that is 'done to him' iyswim. For what it's worth I don't feel you took the easy way out at all, you took a very hard decision based on what you felt was best for DS and not what would be easier for you, and I'm sure he'll thank you for it.

I've probably xposted with a million other MNers that type faster than me, but you know that even if you really can't talk to anyone in RL we'll be here for you.

Aloha · 16/01/2006 16:14

Oh Blu, I'm in tears for you here. I cannot imagine what it is like to have to make such a huge decision.
I am so, so sorry the appointment was so upsetting.
You know that your ds is such an amazing boy that whatever happens to his leg won't affect his chances of a wonderful life - I truly believe that. But that doesn't mean that thinking about something as hideous as this wouldn't make anyone fall to pieces.
One thought. Would you be able to contact anyone whose child has gone for one or the other option and is now grown up and see what they think?
much love and hugs to you and to your dp and ds too.

motherinferior · 16/01/2006 16:21

OH darling, I've only just seen this.

Blu, Blu, you didn't take an easy way out. This whole situation is absolute hell. You chose the option (rightly, I think) that gave the possibility of retaining your beautiful baby's leg. You're now in hell again, and I can't say anything that will make it better, and I so wish I could.

soapbox · 16/01/2006 16:21

Blu - how upsetting for you

I don't know anything about your sons condition, but I can imagine how distressing it must be and how you must have agonised (and still be agonising) over making the right decision.

I think hindsight is part of the problem here. At the time you took the decision not to amputate, you did it based on the information available to you at that time, and the prognosis at that point. Things then move on a bit, sometimes not in the direction you (and the doctors) had hoped and of course you then question the initial decision based on everything you know now, rather than on what you knew then!

I think you are actually torturing yourself with uncertainty and the management of uncertainty, which of course is perfectly human If all the facts and medical opinions were cast iron and never altering, then the decision making would be a piece of cake. As you know though, it is a pretty imprecise science in many ways, and I'm sure there will be many twists and turns along the road still to come.

When all is said and done though, you didn;t take the easy route out, none of it is easy, wasn;t then and won;t be in the future. You are trying your best to manage a complex medical condition to get the best possible outcome for your child in the long term. That is bl**dy good parenting, don't knock yourself for it

Blu · 16/01/2006 16:44

Thank you very very much for this, all of you.
Posting has been really important to me as a first step in being able to take this on board, and not go all hopelss when i have to talk to people about it.

I have been keeping a sporadic diary-letter for DS on what has happened, the decisions we have taken and why, so that he can understand what we did on his behalf when he was older.

You have said some important things.

thank you.

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motherinferior · 16/01/2006 16:46

You don't know that they will feel they have to amputate, do remember that.

mummytosteven · 16/01/2006 16:48

oh Blu, sorry to hear this. As other posters have said, there are no easy options in this situation, and you don't have the benefit of hindsight when making decisions. Best wishes to your and your family.

bossykate · 16/01/2006 16:50

blu, i can't put it any better than soapbox has done. hindsight is a wonderful thing. what terrible decisions you have faced/are facing on ds's behalf.

i will give you a call tonight.

Blu · 16/01/2006 16:50

No, I know - but it seems as if the surgery is now going to be far more complicated - and frequent - than we hoped when we made the decision. And if he has to use a so=plint under his shoes, and his ankle is not good, then his overall mobility will be less good than when we had to give the say-so for the first surgery.

But Soapbox is right - this is torture by hindsight.

And atm, i'm just being weedy about the MRI - but heavenis has reassured me on another thread - and about his reaction to having to wear a splint during the day. He was FINE when he used a splint before though - but he will be much more clumpy.

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eefs · 16/01/2006 16:52

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Blu · 16/01/2006 16:59

eefs - that's very interesting about your friend's little boy. We did meet children with both prosthetics and lengthening - and prosthetics are really really good these days, in terms of engineering and mobility. I am glad he is doing so well - but the fact that we both feel we took the easy way out proves the point that Soapbox and others make, really. Point her to this thread, if you like.

I know, I have to talk about it, and will soon, but now, my jaw just stops. I couldn't tell my best friend last night - and she is DS's ungodly-mother and was there at his birth.

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Potty1 · 16/01/2006 17:02

Blu, I feel for you too. It's just so tough making decisions with no clear, guaranteed out come. The what ifs drive you insane. Agree with soapbox that you can only make the best decison at the time, with the information given. And as you say, you may have opted for amputation but still have been faced with more surgery anyway.

How would you feel about a second opinion, maybe once the MRI is done and you have all the up to date info? The limb reconstruction unit at Sheffield supposed to be first class. I know it's still down to you in the end and it's so tough

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Blu · 16/01/2006 17:29

eefs - your poor friend. We went round and round with all the ifs and buts in our heads with only the one issue to think of. And in the grand scheme of things, she was dealing with things that would have a greater overall impact on the quality of later life. By the sounds of it, her DS is doing v well, and she made an excellent decision! I honestly don't think that consultants reccommend, let alone carry out, amputations unless they are sure there is a very very good case for it. I am sure they were looking out for her interests at such a difficult time.

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Piffle · 16/01/2006 17:32

Blu I feel for you enormously, FWIW I would have made the saem choice on the same basis, I think most would.
I do hope you get some positive news from the tests and scans
Will be thinking of you
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blueteddy · 16/01/2006 17:47

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eefs · 16/01/2006 17:48

Sorry Blu, I didn't mean to go on about her, but the leg condition sounds exactly the same so I thought another experience might help you. Her son is doing brilliantly now, very happy clever little boy. Most of his problems have been tackled so he should have a bright future ahead of him.

Blu · 16/01/2006 18:00

This thread is actually helping me a lot, helping me sort out my thinking, and to get used to just talking about it, like a normal person!

Eefs - I have lost your e mail - can I cat you? Or e me if you still have mine?

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Aloha · 16/01/2006 18:03

In my opinion, you have lost nothing by keeping his leg - he has learned to walk and jump and dance with it - and if you had gone for amputation then, who is to say you wouldn't be tortured by regret now. I think I would have made the same decision as you did, on the same information as you had. You cannot make a decision right now as you don't have all the information. But you are gathering more information, that hopefully will help you make a decision.
The weight of responsibility of parenthood is so huge and frightening sometimes. We hold these vulnerable creatures in the palm of our hand. I know I feel it with my ds (am I doing the right thing? Is he going to the right school? Will they understand him? Will he be OK?) and right now you are facing huge decisions so it would be abnormal if you weren't deeply emotional about it. You say you can't talk about it without crying, and I do know how that feels, but I think it should make you cry, because you are a human being, and you are so lovely, and you love your son so much.

Aloha · 16/01/2006 18:05

If it comes to it, I'm pretty sure I know someone who could put you in touch with adults who lost a limb in childhood and are now absolutely thriving. But it may very well NOT come to this. I hope this is helpful and doesn't upset you.

tamum · 16/01/2006 18:25

Oh god Blu, I ony just saw this. I never cry at the computer, or hardly ever, but I am now. I wish I could give you and your ds the biggest hug. So many great posts on here that there seems to be nothing much left to say, but I agree completely with Piffle, you did not take the easy way out, and I would have thought that with the information you had at the time over 95% of us would have done the same thing. If you do have to go for amputation then being able to introduce him to other children who have been through it and are coping well would be a really good thing to do, wouldn't it.

I do completely understand that if it came to amputation now would be harder for him, at the moment. But he will have the memory, which you and your decision have given him, of walking and running and dancing on his own two legs. That's a pretty precious memory to have, I would have thought.

The diary is a fantastic idea, and illustrates what a fantastic mother you are. I am now actually sobbing, embarrassingly enough. Oh Blu, I wish I could do something.