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eidsvold · 08/11/2003 07:52

Yesterday I had one of my days from hell.... I particularly have a nightmare year 9 class. ( long story - silly immature naughty boys who think things like throwing bits of pencil across the room as hard as you can at someone else is amusing!!!) Well this boy pulled a face like he was in pain or had been hurt so I asked if he had a problem or was he all right..... He replied laughingly No I am a spastic - well I was about to let him know how inappropriate that was when this boy piped up - nah he has down's syndrome and another piped up nah up syndrome!!!

Well this set all 6 boys into full blown laughter..... Me - as you can imagine - I was so enraged .. I had to take a breath and then I let them have it - first of all told them to shut up and to get on with what they were supposed to do.... ( had been told about 10 times already) the good kids in the class were stunned to hear me roar like that... as they had been working in silence.... I then turned to the boy who had made the comment about Down's syndrome and very calmly ( whilst still shaking with anger) told him that my daughter had down's syndrome and I was offended by what he had said. I also told the original boy that his comment was also offensive. Then I sat at my desk and had to wait until I had calmed down.

The pity is - the boy who made the comment about Down's syndrome is generally a good kid - somewhat bright but he just wanted to take the joke a step further and be the funny one with the last word so the other silly boys would think he was funny and cool.

He was spoken to by the Deputy Head of Year and came back to apologised but I was still so angry all I could do was thank him for his apology and tell him to leave as I was still so angry.

I am not sure what to do next - I have been discussing my daughter with my year 11 form class as they have met her but we have not discussed the Down's syndrome - I have decided to broach the subject with them by sort of saying what happened in the class and that they may hear things about my daughter and I want them to know the correct information.

What do you think I should do with the year 9's..... you know I am still so angry - part of it is at putting up with ridiculous highly inappropriate and dangerous behaviour lesson after lesson..... ( not the only teacher who has to do so form this class) but the rest is at their ignorance and stupidity. You know we have a number of kids with special needs including Cerebral Palsy ( no down's syndrome) and children in wheel chairs.... so it is not like these kids are not around children with special needs.

Sorry this is so long.....

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FairyMum · 10/11/2003 14:53

Can only symphatise. Growing up with a sister with Down's I have felt these comments like a knife in my heart all my life. It must be harder when it is your child

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eidsvold · 11/11/2003 07:52

thanks again for all your lovely thoughts and support..... strangely the class was a lot better yesterday - no silly comments and they actually did some work - maybe me going ballistic for the brief moment was enough.

However - we did have another incident yesterday - not for me but a support teacher who works with children with special needs. She went to collect a boy for his literacy tutorial and he told her he was not coming - he was not one of those f'ing spastics - he could read and write - well she was shocked and then she launched into one..... makes me wonder - you know - he is young enough that spastic would not have been a word in common usage in his lifetime as such. The support teacher reported it to a senior teacher.

I have decided I am going to raise it as a whole school issue - perhaps we need some assemblies on this etc.

Did not do my session with my form class as I felt like death warmed up - think I got the stomach bug and sitting at my desk was all I could do not to throw up all over it.

Anyway - lots of food for thought - will keep you posted on what happens.

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suedonim · 11/11/2003 10:16

Eidsvold, does your school not have SE classes for every year, where this topic could be covered? At my dd's (senior) school, this is exactly the sort of thing they talk about and discuss.

fio2 · 11/11/2003 13:57

eidsvold agree with suedonim - when I was at school we had physical development classes which used to cover issues like disability and discrimination of all sorts. Also RS lessons used to cover moral issues aswell.

Agree with you about the 'spastic' comment, he must have heard that off an adult or one of the other kids have. Its vile isnt it.

eidsvold · 11/11/2003 19:40

nah - not really we do have Personal and social educaiton lesson which has no set curriculum.. however I am beginning to think this needs to be addresses.....

Especially since we have children with cerebral palsy, in wheelchairs and other kids with special needs......

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doormat · 14/11/2003 20:56

eidsvold cant these puplis volunteer in a SN school one day sort of like a work experience thing. It might make them see SN in a different light.

Caroline5 · 15/11/2003 11:06

A friend's teenage daughter is going along with dd2 to her SN nursery next week for her work experience - also going to her physio and portage sessions. It's been a bit of a nightmare for her mum trying to get everyone to agree to it - insurance and other red tape etc. Think it's a really good idea though.

fio2 · 17/11/2003 08:28

bet your dd2 will love that carolineSmile

eidsvold · 19/11/2003 18:34

oh that is soo needed..... I had another incident today with a student ( year 8) making fun of people with special needs - boy did he get the shock of his life - I took him into the corridor and tore strips off him - in my fake ( but scary) angry way..... you know the one teacher's use for effect..... I also told him that I would let my year 11's know about him as the boy in my class who has cerebral palsy would love to know that this boy thought it was a joke..... The whole corridor heard me - I was absolutely roaring........in fact i stopped short of making him cry... it just got me so annoyed....

Then I find out that year 8 class were making jokes about people with special needs and thinking that it was okay to use that word 'spastics' and to make jokes using that word.....

Boy I am going to speak to the head of year and demand an assembly and PSE work relating to special needs ........

A positive though - a yr 11 boy I have in my form class was giving me hints on Anger management...... ( he has had to attend after an assault) bless him....

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hmb · 19/11/2003 18:42

Hugs to you!

Why is it that kids go from being so positive about SN (see Jimjams posting about kids fighting of ds's PECS card) to being rotten little toads in year 8+?? Is it something dreadful that happens once the hormones kick in, do you think??

I don't blame you for shouting at him, he damn well deserved it.

Hope you have a better day tomorrow

lou33 · 19/11/2003 19:06

I applaud you Eidsvold for taking action as you did. I cannot bear hearing these derogatory expressions used, and reeducation is the only way. Btw I hated hearing them when I was growing too, not just now I have a sn child. I hope you get your assembly.

eidsvold · 19/11/2003 19:09

must admit my older students were shocked that students would make jokes about people with special needs.... so I was pleased with them

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fio2 · 19/11/2003 21:26

well done eidsvoldSmile

I dont know what causes it but it used to go on when my sister went to school(she cystic fibrosis). She got on fine at primary school but as soon as she went to secondary she was almost constantly being bullied - and Im afraid to say the teachers didnt take it very seriously either.

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