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Anyone with children statemented under three yrs?

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mamadadawahwah · 08/10/2005 11:09

I am in the throes of statementing my child. Any ideas on if this is possible and if any of you have succeeded at this, can you give me some experiential advice please? Really need some.

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bakabat · 08/10/2005 12:28

Yes its possible- IPSEA or the NAS educaiton advisory service give the best advice. If the LEA get tricky you may need a lawyer. Although unless you are asking for something like swimming with dolphins then the law should be on your side. You may just need a lawyer to prove that!

ThomBat · 09/10/2005 20:19

I started applying in Sept 2004 I think it was. Lottie was 3 in the Dec of that year. We've had it in palce by the time she was about 3 and a half ish. She gets ...I think it's 10 hours a week at her pre-school.
How old is your child?
What advice do you need exactly?
My general advice is to just go for it. Grit your teeth and don't don't give up. Use the line, 'no age appropriate skills' and 'needs help accessing the curriculum' a lot. Insist he/she needs help now or will get further & further behind.

onlypumpking · 09/10/2005 21:46

my youngest had a statement just before his third birthday, which meant he was able to go to a specialist ASD nursery, we didn't have any difficulty getting his statement, it may well have had something to do with the fact that my twin girls already had statements, so we had been through it before x2 and dealt with the same people so i guess they knew that we knew the proceedure and would take no c**p

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mamadadawahwah · 09/10/2005 22:06

thanks people. The advice I need is I suppose, the "wordage" how to word things but i am researching this. I am going with the intention that they are going to deny what i want so I am using language which is undeniable, based on my son's initial diagnosis/observations. I sure dont think its going to be easy.

What i want is 1:1 help in a playschool by an autism trained "professional" not a teacher's assistant who took a three week course in "autism". As it stands my son progresses so well, after each speech therapy session and I know that daily speech therapy would help him immeasurably. Will i get this? Dont know. Will keep you posted and thanks for the input.

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bakabat · 09/10/2005 23:14

You're very unlikely to get a professional working with your son as a 1:1 in a mainstream nursery. Unless you are sending in an ABA shadow or using a specialist nursery with lots of autism experience. Your best bet may be a parent of a an autistic child. The wages are minimal for 1:1's so you don't get people with lots of professional autism experience that easily. That said for 2 terms my friend;s dd had an LSA in mainstream who had years of experience in an autism specific school. Unfortunately she left to go back to the special school (where she was paid more).

LadyFioOfTipton · 10/10/2005 08:42

we got a statement when dd was 'about' 3. I had to srtamp alot to get it though, weirdly she is 6 now and still has the same statement

piffle · 10/10/2005 09:41

we've just started and dd is 3 in 2 weeks, my paediatrician goddess is handling it - man she is GOOD. You have to over state everything much like a aodding DLA application - they say to strta early to make sure it in place well in advance of school starts.
We're lucky with dd inasmuch as there is one SENCO at her nursery and dd is the only SN kid in her one session.
Our dd has Noonan Syndrome, actually scarily the paed did say they were scrutinising asd/aspergers claims much more now so I hope this is untrue or not the case for you MMDD

onlypumpking · 10/10/2005 09:41

i think you would be VERY lucky to find a teacher never mind a TA that had three weeks training in autism in a mainstream setting.

butty · 10/10/2005 09:43

Hi, we got dylans statement of educational needs in May 2005. He was only 2.5 months old. He will not be 3 until newyears day.
The process was very good as all the appropiate people and proffessionals helped to put it in place so that he could start the special schools nursery department.
I think a lot can depend on your region etc.. and criteria, also on how quickly those involved with your child fill out all the reports and paper work needed for the LEA to look at.
The ED Phsyc was brilliant with the statementing process and it took 8 weeks in total to get the final statement through.
Good Luck.
Butty.xxx

butty · 10/10/2005 09:45

sorry that should say 2.5 years old!!!!! Gosh he has aged quickly to be 3 this time!!!!!!!!

anniebear · 10/10/2005 11:37

No advice , but my DD was statemented when she was coming up to 2. No problems, all straightforward and she started at her School in the early Years section at age 2 and 4 months

ThomBat · 10/10/2005 12:46

mamadadawahwah - I presumed when we had lottie's statement in place we'd get a SN trained teacher. boy was I wrong. i thought there was a pool of SN teachers, no way - th eschool have to apply for a teacher like they would any other vacancy. you then have to find someone that is availbale to fill in the hours that you have been 'awarded'.

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mamadadawahwah · 10/10/2005 15:26

thombat, i figure that. It dosent sound too promising. I suppose best bet would be to go and look at all potential playschools etc. I wonder if any of you have ever asked to go into the school to be your child's own teacher??

I wouldnt even expect to be paid! I could help to train up an assistant and ensure she gets to go some good courses. Mind you i am really going to push for a professional anyway. If you dont ask, you dont get. We now have an aba school close be so will try for that one.

Thanks for all your help. I am just waiting for paed to write a report and get my child seen by ed psych.

Do you know if the ed psych does the IQ test?? I want this test done as a baseline to show how much my child will hopefully improve once he starts his home aba therapy|?

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ThomBat · 10/10/2005 15:40

LOL - I thought exactly the same thing and wanted to be her teacher myself! But a) can't afford to give up work and b) didn't think it would be for the best really.
The therapists and prtage etc go into the school to see lottie and they give all the teachers, toips, pointers, goals etc etc and her 1to1 teacher adores lottie and she adores her back so i'm happy that she's getting the help she needs.

ThomBat · 10/10/2005 15:41

Althought having said that I would LOVE it if she had SN's training as well.

madmummyof2 · 11/10/2005 13:03

We started to apply for my sons statement when he was 2. he finally got it just after his 3rd birthday. he got 15 points which means he had full 1:1 support from a TA.

as for wording it i would say just describe in your own words what you feel the dificulties are. if you try and word it for teh sake of the proffesionals it will look like you have researched it for their benefit.
wishing you loads of luck

MorticiaMerlot · 11/10/2005 13:24

ds2 has just turned 2 - the dev paed has now started the `notifying' process - which I presume is a precurser to statementing??

JakBat · 11/10/2005 14:33

DD statemented 2 and 9 months. Have they agreed to assess your DS?

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mamadadawahwah · 13/10/2005 13:19

My sons paed is just submitting report to the trust as we speak.

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MorticiaMerlot · 13/10/2005 19:57

Hi JakB In ds2's case they have just started the process which decides whether assessment is needed.

Davros · 13/10/2005 20:20

Sorry, have been off Mn for so long can't read through all of the threads. BUT DS's statement was started when he was 2.5yrs (not finalised until he was 3.5 but that's another story). There was no question about whether he "needed" it or had to be school age or all that other claptrap you get told.

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Pages · 13/10/2005 20:32

DS1 has just turned 3. He has been turned down twice, and we have reapplied but I have been told today that it is almost certain that it will go through in the next month or two (yippee!)

MeerkatsUnite · 14/10/2005 09:18

Pages,

Good for you for reapplying and not giving up.

Hopefully this time around the LEA in question will see sense.

ghoulgrrl · 14/10/2005 09:42

I got dd statemented when she was just 2 - she needed it to get a place in a SN nursery and she also got support at ms nursery (80% IIRC). It wasn't a problem, but then dd has a 'label' (DS). I can only agree with contacting IPSEA if you have issues with your LEA.