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What happens when special needs children grow up?

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Broomy · 22/01/2011 11:45

My heart goes out to Riven Vincent. I wish her and all other suffering families, the very, very best of additional support.

But what happens when our special needs children grow up?

My 25 year old daughter went into supported living 3 weeks ago. She has M.E. and is on the Autistic Spectrum.

I had to request my MP's help before her PCP and SAQ were able to be presented to a panel to support her successfully to leave home, and even now, she hasn't seen either document. Finally support was agreed beginning of Dec 2010, having begun the irregular process November 2009. Our local authority agreed their weekly contribution. My daughter's weekly contribution is taken from her DLA and Incap Ben. This is the system her chosen provider adopts.

On 22 Dec I received a letter from our local authority asking my daughter for more of her money to contribute to the cost they had already agreed to pay. This would have taken all the remainder she had to live on and was unsustainable. It was instantly very serious. She was desperate to leave home, and had already been told by social services that she could. Her bags were packed.

Now my dilemma was 'do I tell her she can't go? or do I let her go and after 3 months tell her she can't stay?' With 3 days to go to Christmas I couldn't eat or sleep. My younger daughter was home from uni saying we had to make this Christmas the most special ever, because her sister was soon leaving.

I phoned our local authority on receipt of this letter and by great good fortune the director of services happened to be walking past the phone. At lunchtime on Christmas Eve he phoned me and apologised because the wrong coding had been keyed in. She had been classed as residential instead of supported living and we should never have had the letter.

I have since heard other people suggest that this mistake may have occurred in respect of other families, who may have suffered to their detriment because they didn't know they could query the payment request, or who to query it with.

I have no means of knowing their situation. I only know mine. It was inappropriate for the local authority to have asked us for that payment and if we had made it, rather than queried it, it would have been inappropriate for us to have paid it.

(As an addendum - my husband is due to retire on a teacher's pension soon and much as we will help our daughter in every way we can, always have, and always will, her supported living was calculated independently of us, financially.)

I'm seeing my MP in 2 weeks to ask why local authorities have the right to divert social care funding for disabled children and adults to other areas of expenditure. The govt have agreed a further £2bn for social care, so why are families with disabled members having these pressures?

Not only did we have the battle for our daughter's supported living funding with our local authority last autumn, but when central government, via the DWP, withdraws Incap Ben, which it's in the process of doing, and DLA - which is planned in future - then our daughter will have her own means of contributing towards her now independent living, taken away from her. So hey ho. It's not over even now.

We will have all the stress of re-applying for help for her again - and trying to make people we haven't met - understand her disabilities, on application forms subjectively designed to set us up to fail! Well, we will not fail!

When local authorities reduce support levels for families, and staffing levels in social services, this leaves families in already terrible circumstances even more stressed.

When the government reduce the quality of life of many disabled people by their approach to reducing the welfare bill which doesn't differentiate enough between the work-shy and the genuinely disabled, then families with special needs, be it children or adults, are between a rock and a hard place.

Atos, the body employed by the government to re-assess benefits for the disabled - has had 40% of appeals against its decisions, upheld. The DWP Harrington Review has asked the government to look again at their questionnaires and try and do better to understand disability and mental illness. Fortunately the government has agreed to do so.

It is a fight every step of the way, Mums. I'm writing this to encourage you to do it and never to give in. You will get there in the end.

I think Britain needs to ask itself where its collective social conscience is heading when students and disabled people are having the current levels of financial hardship thrust on them, which is happening at the moment. We're hearing this week that it's time to forgive the bankers and reinstate their bonuses at their full rate.

Would the bankers like to consider putting a very small per cent of their very generous bonuses into a fund for the disabled - and for students - so that those who are suffering more, disproportionately, to reduce the deficit, and those students who are coming up to being the young families of the future, aren't shouldering burdens currently set to shadow their lives forever?

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autumnsmum · 22/01/2011 11:53

thank you for your post i have always wondered what happens when our children become adults

WHAThisFlappinNotFlyin · 22/01/2011 11:58

Same here I've always wondered...

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 22/01/2011 12:01

Excellent, truly great post.

lisad123isasnuttyasaboxoffrogs · 22/01/2011 12:16

Well if their anything like my husband they grow up spend days bugging their wife with their behaviour Grin

vjg13 · 22/01/2011 12:20

Thanks for taking the time to tell your story. I know from talking to other parents how we will have to always continue fighting to get my daughter the support she needs. Sad

WetAugust · 22/01/2011 13:31

Interested to hear your experience Broomy and commend you on taking them on.

I've found that the resource available have actually increased as Ds has got older.

During period of Statutory education up to age 16 we were very much at the mercy of a hopeless LA.

Once he's left school and was in FE he got much more help from the college and Learning&Skills council. The FE college had benfits advisors which saved having to queue up at the local CAB.

At Uni he has a gold-plated package of 1:1 support and all the resources he needs. Something he was denied during his time at school. His Uni has it's own Disability Service and Benefits Advice Office which offer fantastic support.

He also gets significant support from Adult Services, instead of being refused any meaningful SS support while a 'child'.

The problem is that many children have been so failed by the time they are 16 that they don't get the opportinity to progress as my DS has to Higher education.

One thing I've found useful is to obtain the Child Poverty Action Group (CPAG) handbook that detail all the benefits and rules. You can then work out their entitlent to these benfits yourself and can challenge wrong assessments by the LA. I've done this three times now when error/incompetence of the LA threatened to disadvantage / underpay by seeral hundred pounds due to miscalcuating / failing to apply very specilaist rules.

But we shouldn't have to do this.

2shoes · 22/01/2011 13:49

interesting post.
I think I worry about adult services as everyone says they are dire.
a lot is said on here (mn) about dla and children, but I worry about what will happen in 3 years when dd is an adult. will there be anywhere for her to go, as so many adult SS budgets are being cut.

WetAugust · 22/01/2011 13:59

The simple fact seems to be that as long as they are children the parent is expected to provide the care as far as possible.

Once they become adults they are assessed in their own right.

Claiming DLA for someone when they reach 16 is much easier than it is when they are a child as for instance the 'cooking test' applies, which almaost certainly qualifies them for DLA that they may not have qualified for when younger.

borderslass · 22/01/2011 14:20

DS is 16 and we are getting concerned as his behaviour towards me can be quite extreme he will probably need either supported accommodation or residential eventually.Don't think there's any supported accommodation here though.

2shoes · 22/01/2011 16:19

WetAugust I love you, you explain it so I get it and I actually feel better, thanks

WetAugust · 22/01/2011 17:17

2shoes

If you DD cannot prepare a meal consisting of meat and 2 veg from raw ingrediants with no assistance whatsoever, she'll qualify.

Broomy · 22/01/2011 17:29

Borderslass

Don't worry about supported living not being in your area - you can search widely. My daughter is not in the same county as we are.
Broomy

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lisad123isasnuttyasaboxoffrogs · 22/01/2011 19:52

we have a house 2 doors up from me with 3 adults with Learning difficutlies who have carers popping in.
They seem to manage well and fit well in with our community and we all look out for them.
The one xmas the kitchin caught fire wasnt them, but the carer who set the xmas pud on fire!

donkeyderby · 22/01/2011 21:14

will be reading this thread with interest when I get time. Thanks for bringing adulthood up - my DS is 14 and I am worried

DJAngel · 22/01/2011 22:02

Thanks Broomy for a brilliant post.

I bet you write great letters to fight for services for your dd!

Very interesting to read your experiences. DD only 4 but do worry about her future, even more with the coalition in power. I have always thought we'd be with dd at home with us til she or we die but that may not be the best for her or for us.. It is positive to hear that situations can be set up that work, albeit that you have to fight tooth and nail to achieve then again to maintain..

Thanks for posting this..

donkeyderby · 23/01/2011 11:26

I wonder if there is some sort of forum for Transition into adulthood? I really feel the need for something to help us get through this process and pointers to the help available in adult life.

I am particularly concerned with what sort of residential/housing and care packages are available to adults with the most severe learning disabilities. I have a vision of DS living very near us but with a small group of other adults and a lively care team. It seems that if your DC's remain at home, they don't get enough services. A day centre three days a week isn't going to cut it with us!

LaydeeC · 23/01/2011 15:02

I have a 13 year old with AS and I've spent many a sleepless night worrying about his future.
I know he'll be fine as long as I am around but when I die, I am scared that he will be thrown to the wolves.
I can't imagine how he will negotiate the DLA (if its still available) claim not to mention living costs.
We are fortunate (!) in that he has a placement in a specialist residential school for boys with AS. Successful on one level but, sheesh, do I miss him when he is not at home.
I have a belly full of worry and a hollow feeling that I can't get rid off thinking about my son's future so glad to hear something relatively positive for a change.

Broomy · 23/01/2011 15:31

LaydeeC
I understand exactly what your hollow feeling is because I had it for 25 years until we found the current trial placement for our dd. Even if it doesn't work - and I hope it does - it's made me realise there are people and places out there who can come alongside us in a positive way and help to take our beloved sons/daughters forward, opening up new horizons for them in ways we couldn't imagine existed during those hollow feeling years while we watched them grow up, waiting and worrying, thinking there was nothing ahead.
It's made me believe there is a niche for everyone. With hindsight, I would have enjoyed the hollow years (perfect description) more, knowing the things I've uncovered now.
Yes, you have to fight your ground. Present systems don't make it easy, but I wish I'd enjoyed the growing years more, and feel I could have done if I'd had more trust in the future, scary as it is. It's good to be able to share that encouragement with everyone now.
My husband and I feel our lives have been so enriched through sharing our dd's journey, hard as it is. If we could start all over again, we wouldn't chose any other way. Does anyone else feel that too?

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Broomy · 23/01/2011 16:06

I'm also really encouraged to see that the film about Temple Grandin's life has just won a Golden Globe. She is inspirational. My husband and I have also been greatly moved by Rupert Isaacson's true story - The Horse Boy. His family's journey so far with his autistic son.

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ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 23/01/2011 16:48

DD I can ask at uni if you want? I know a great 11+ transition one but not a 16+ one.

Actually am doing my dissertaion on carer support and gping to look at alternatives to the face to face system- so fora, apps, etc. It's something that needs focus and proves (and I hate covering this but makes my diss amrketable) cheaper.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 23/01/2011 16:52

Would i choose it another way? yes. not becuase of what I get from it all and the rest but becuase of the fact that I am not immortal; that the boy's siblings struggle, that our own financial capacity has been affected severely.

I should emphasise ds1 is aggressive which does slant things I guess. But ds3 isn't yet I dare not think of the future.

There is good support about though; I live close to an NAS unit that does resi and day care and from what I have seen over 6 years (and there's always someone out in the loal community with carers) woudl say they are wonderful. They only take people with LD ASD and EBD but if ds3 developed ebd i;d want him there as an adult.

purplepidjin · 23/01/2011 21:14

They get thrown to wolves like me who cook them and eat them in our gingerbread cottages that walk around on chicken legs[evil grin]

Broomy · 24/01/2011 15:02

tasteless

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Broomy · 24/01/2011 15:02

..... and not intended as a pun...

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HecateQueenOfWitches · 24/01/2011 15:06

I don't know. I wonder this about my two. I assume that me and my husband will do everything we can to ensure they have as much independence as possible. I don't think we can count on social services tbh! So we'll just have to do the best we can.

We want to make sure that they are protected from people who could take advantage too, so we intend to not leave them our assets in our wills but create some sort of trust that they will benefit from, but nobody can come along and clean them out.