one of these "a simple yes or no vote pretty please" hreads - gwan, won't tkae a minute

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so, if you had a ds (just turned 2) who woke at 5:30 or thereabouts every morning (and you'd tried everything that wise mners might advise wrt blackout blinds, noise, etc etc etc)...

... would you cut his nap right back, say to 45 mins or an hour?

dd3 (at 13 months) can manage with a cat nap

she is forcibly strapped to cot

No.

where are the rackety birds sitting? Ours were in the ivy and nearby holly tree which got drastically trimmed.

No.

Ds 2.2ys - now understands that he needs to stay quiet until alarm clock goes off - so go in when he starts yelling (anytime after 4.30) and tell him that it's still time for sleep and leave despite protests. After a few days of this, he is now back to a more reasonable time mostly.

He still has 2hrs in middle of the day - but when he is up he is constantly on the go, so needs it.

without wanting to brag kathy, mahoosive garden with many trees

and we're renting so i can't chop them down, before you suggest it

leave him if he needs a nap
is a different sort of sleep

he may just be an early riser...sorry

ummm..... make a scarecrow? Bound to work

No. Can the nap be earlier in the day?

yes, ds (2) still naps but dd dropped hers at 2

try giving him an hour late morning for a week

No. In my experience it didn't work since he was then already asleep/too tired by bedtime and would then sleep very deeply straight away.

Found knocking 15-30 minutes off did improve his sleeping though when we hit a rocky patch.

Apart from that I'd let him get up and play/read in his room so long as he's not disturbing us.

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yes probably try it for a week or so to see if he could cope without it. if he seemed ok then i would keep with the no naps routine. is his nap am or pm and how long usually?

ok

thanks all

woke him after an hour(ish) - will stick with it for a week or so and see how we go

cruisemum, he's been falling asleep late morning since waking so early, but ordinarily he'd make it til after lunch

today was 11:30 til 12:30ish

Ds1 did this. Restrict nap to 60 mins max, to be done before 2pm.

He needs lots of physical activity too and supper.

He sometimes comes into our bed at 4am, I'm not bothered.

Yes - cut completely

Yes

no

No

Just leave him in bed/cot in room and ignore him til 7am, that's what I did with DD when she had this phase, now only wakes early (6am) if she has a cold/cough

nope

yes
I have cut naps here as it was messing up bedtime
2 yr old is still rising with the sun though
Someone said give in and get up, this is probably best. Mine got hold of a tub of vaseline yesterday morning when I had drifted back to sleep = not a good mess to wake to

No.

I always feel that a child sleeps in the day because they need to. If they dont, they dont need to. (In your average, run-of-the-mill child, of course....).

With DD, we simply told her it was still 'night-night time' and put her back to bed. It took quite some time. She still often, at 4 yrs old, wakes early. But, as time has gone by, she has learnt that its okay to be awake, but, she must either stay in her room and play quietly, or, just Not Wake Mummy or Daddy

No
made not the slightest bit of difference

or

Yes
worth a try as long as you know it's no guarantee