Dana Obleman and Sleep Sense - anyone heard of her?

[Mij]

When I was checking out old Dr Richard Ferber on google, to find out exactly what the revisions were in his latest edition (please please no discussions of CC here!) I found a link to a site that was offering 'free' advice on sleep, and selling itself as being 'not Ferber'. It all sounds highly suspect to me, so just wondered if anyone has come across her, and before I start requesting stuff I would be interested to know what her methods are. Anyone any ideas?

I wondered that - how do you know if it's a first post, or a namechange come to that.

Still reckon half the 'amazing results' posts on this thread are pretty fishy

Do an advanced search on the name

ah. clever. You could get a job with MI5 Butterpie!

Not that it should matter, but I happened to be doing a google search looking for the proper web address and this thread popped up so I chose to respond.

If you all choose to think I'm a fake or a phoney, that's up to you - your loss.

All this reminds me why I tend to avoid parenting websites. I'll certainly not be posting anywhere else here.

Hi ladies,

Can anyone help?

I have a 15 months old baby, we did not have much sleeping problem since she was born (I do not normally take her in my bed, only sometimes for daytime naps and thats all.) For night sleep I always put her in her cot.
Yes she used to wake up about 2 times a night but that was not a problem for me as she wanted her bottle and goes to sleep easily after she's finish her milk.Now is worse than that,she wakes up almost every 2 hours,sometimes even often and she points my bed or she points the door.I was searching online for help and found out about Dana Obleman, do you think I should pay 47 dollars and get her Sleeping Sense Program?

Note: My daugter started walking on her own and suddenly after that she started to wake up crying every 2 hours or every hour.
What do you think the problem is?

Thank you all

Hi, i bought Danas sleep sense program last year. At 6 mths we were unable to get him to sleep on his own. This program is money well spent. It changed our lives. Now our 2 year old tells us he wants to go to bed. It only took 3 days to have him sleeping 10 hours instead of 2 hours! She is an angel. The food one is good too.

It worked for us. I agree the website does look dodgy but I was desperate and willing to try anything. Best £25 i've every spent IMHO. What she says isn't new or groundbreaking by any stretch of the imagination but what it did do for us was detail what to do in a step by step guide.

Naps were our biggest issue and within 2 weeks our 4 months old was taking 2 x 2hr naps (in his cot!) and a catnap (from previously having 3 x 30 mins naps in the car or pram only). Once we had naps sussed we waited a few months to get him sleeping through the night as I was still happy with night feeds until 8 months when I realised he didn't need them anymore.

I don't get that much junk email from her though?

However, the best website for sleep advice is this one. They have a good facebook page too where you can go into the 'discussions' tab and get good answers to your questions.

www.thesleepstore.co.nz

The Millpond Sleep Clinic book is also good (I borrowed it from our library).

I truly believe that the steps we took in getting DS to nap and sleep through the night have paid dividends. We really haven't looked back since.

PS - I am not a new poster, just don't ever really look at the Sleep threads!

Hi all,

I AM a new poster and it seems to me that this thread is kinda dead...am PRAYING someone will get back to me....

My son is almost 6 months old. He is always happy and such a delight...but he does not sleep....EVER!

When he was born he slept through the night the first few nights in the hospital. Then we brought him home and he was a good sleeper for about a month. He was also a good napper. After that it started to go downhill slowly. By 3 months, he was waking up SEVERAL times a night and his naps were shorter and shorter. Now at 5.5 months, he wakes every single hour during the night and he naps for about 20-30 mins two or three times a day. He is also a very light sleeper....everything wakes him! And to make things worse, lately he always wants to be in my arms. He is so attached to me! My husband is a wonderful father/partner but we have a crazy busy schedule (4 other kids; 2 who live with us and 2 who live with their mom) and he is already doing EVERYTHING and working every day too...so because I have a year off on maternity leave (Canada), I am the one who gets up at night with the baby...especially since I am exclusively breast-feeding too. It might help to mention that the baby sleeps in our bed with us...a big mistake we made right from the start. I have been trying to get him to sleep in his bed and he will fall asleep there but he still wakes every hour....sometimes every half an hour...

I know this message is all over the place...but I am so sleep deprived and frazzled! I am not so worried for the time being since I can sleep in a bit in the morning....but once I go back to work, I am so worried about how I will handle all this (I teach 5 classes of high school kids!).

PLEASE POINT ME IN THE DIRECTION OF SOMEONE OR SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP ME!!!

Thank you so much for reading this.

Zayasmom :)

Hi Zayasmom,

You sound like me. Our problems with our son started at around 5 months and still continue at 11 months. Previously he would sleep for 6hr stretches at night - one time he even went for 8 hours and I was giddy with excitement... then it all went downhill.

He had been on a dummy since he a month old and at 5 months he would wake every hour and I would have to put it back in his mouth. If that didn't work I would breastfeed him back to sleep. Eventually I was too sleep deprived so I put him in the bed with us. FINALLY started to get some sleep but he still fed 2 or 3 times in the night. Again this was short lived... and eventually he started getting more demanding and wanting to feed constantly.... my boobs became his dummy. So I forced him to go cold turkey on his dummies which wasn't as bad I thought it would be. Would highly recommend doing this if you haven't yet. I also did all the other wrong things to get him to sleep which I stopped doing - rocking him to sleep, letting him sleep on the boob.

Then tried controlled crying which after a week got him to sleep from 8pm to 4.30/5am. And now... back to square ONE!!! So frustrated that he just seems to be slipping right back into his old habits of waking up throughout the night and screaming. Boob is the only solution to calm him down otherwise he will quite happily (or rather unhappily) scream for an hour. As my H has a pretty intense job he needs to have proper sleep so this isn't an option.

So Zayasmom, sorry if this doesn't help you but if it's any consolation it seems that moms throughout the world have found themselves in this same situation throughout time. Let's join hands and collectively scream AAAARG!!!

Going back to the topic of this original thread - can anyone share Dana's theory on crying. Does she say you have to stay in the room and what are you supposed to say or not say and do when you're in there?

Hi Mums,

I kinda think its unfair that some of you have lambasted Dana's methods without having first tried them. Sure the website could be better but i went for it and dont regret it one bit. And no, im not phoney! I live in Malaysia and work in the media... I have absolutely no reason to be marketing for her except to say that if you're commited to the plan and stick to it, it works. My son is 3 mths old and after 9 days he is now sleeping happily in his crib for his second nap of the day, went down without a whimper and even smiled at me just before closing his eyes. I tried GF with my first daughter and it was just too rigid for us. What eventually worked was a combination of several methods, which it turns out, was almost exactly like what Dana has recommended. Good luck to you all.

HELP!!! My 11 month old is still not sleeping through the night! Im exhausted and so is the rest of the family. Recently we let him sleep in our bed and we (hubby n I) fell asleep watching a movie downstairs. We woke up at 8 am and to our amazement he was still sleeping. So we did this for 3 nights and same result. So on the fourth night we put him in his room, but this time not in his crib, on the guest queen bed. We thought it might be his crib mattress. Well he woke up at 2:30 am. ok so we tried another time and same result sometime between 2:30 and 3. So I slept in the queen bed in his room with him to see if it was a noise and I did not hear anything and he still woke up at 2:30??? So we decided to try him sleeping in his crib mattress on the floor next to our bed in our room and voila baby sleeping through the night. Soooo it's not sleeping with us because he slept through the night on our bed alone and his crib mattress alone as long as its in our room. Any ideas on how to get him to sleep in his room??? Or why he wouldn't be able to sleep in his room?

Yes, we used the Sleep Sense when dd was up 4-5 times a night. We started and within a week she was sleeping through the entire night (12hrs). She slept 9hrs on night 3, 10 on night 4 and through the entire night after that. It's the best money ever spent. You can get promo here www.sleepsense.net/share.html?p=sleepbabysleep&w=buynow

I get ten emails from her every fucking day, that bitch.

Read the first one and never bothered again. Must. Unsubscribe. Now.

It could be really good but I get pissed off being inundated.

I came across this article and thought I'd share www.naturalchild.org/guest/pinky_mckay.html I don't believe in any form of sleep training especially ones involving leaving a baby to cry! Babies are not psychologically equipped to self soothe. This is a behaviour which comes with age. They need closeness, touch, cuddles etc to know they are safe and loved. My little one is 7 months old and still wakes 2-3 times a night for a cuddle, feed or reassuring pat on the back. I happily wake up and tend to his need of affection as I know he will only be a baby for such a short period.??

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I paid for Dana Obleman's Sleep Sense program and her potty training as well. My son, since I began the sleep training, has been sleeping 11 to 12 hours, uninterrupted through the night and also sleeping 2 or more hours during the day for a nap. He is currently 24 months old. I started the training when he was 13 months old, and he was still nursing through the night, every two hours! Within one day, I had him peacefully weaned from night feeds( the poor boy really wanted to sleep!) and sleeping from 7pm to 7am. Now it's more like 7 until 6:30, but it's still great. I don't think that her concept requires crying out at all. It takes a strong parent, though, to hold off on talking, holding and looking directly at your child during the process of sleep training. I have recommended this program to so many people and they have been really thrilled with it. If I weren't in a financial bind, I would consider taking her course and becoming a sleep consultant. That's how much I believe in this program. Good luck.

Here's a shot of our little guy napping.

Wow another poster who has joined to tell us how AMAZING this site is!

I'm probably about to try this, my boy is 19 months now, my wife has just cut out the feeding to sleep, but he hasn't been sleeping through much and has always woken early, rarely wakes after 5:30am.

I found this thread looking for positive or negative comments on the program. As the negative seem only to come from people who haven't tried it, I think I'll give it a go. And thought as there are accusations that so many people are joining to post praise, I should post something before I try it.

Alternative is probably to employing services of a sleep consultant, so this is likely to be much cheaper.

Btw is it ok that I'm a dad on here not a mum?

We paid for Obleman Sleep Sense when our child was 7 months, but I was disappointed. We did quit night time eating and dummy same time and baby started to sleep through night, but...

... the baby started to suck on his thumb. Now he is 20 months and thumb got so bad we had to tape it to heal. Now the boy is a mess. For a week we havent slept normally, waking up every night because the boy is crying and cant be calmed. We are going crazy because lack of sleep.

I wish I never used Sleep Sense. But to give them some credit, they paid my money back hassle free just as they advertise it.

Forgot to mention that I am also a dad....

I'm an NI mum of 2 DS. I can confirm I am an actual real person and am a mumsnet regular reader and occasional poster. I bought Danas online PDF book and it really helped me sort out FF DS at 6.5 months. It took us from multiple wakings to decent 10/11 hours sleeps and a good lunchtime nap. All the advice is exactly what you'd expect...no sleep props, blackout blinds, introduce a comforter/toy. But it is controlled crying. No doubt about it. So if that's not your bag, steer clear.