CC Advice please..... How do you ignore the crys?

[Ivor]

He just keeps crying, how do you not give in and give them a cuddle?

Crap. And Ds2 is now 11 months, and sleeps around 7 until 7 most nights. i think doctors forget when babies do things

Ahh I feel much better, shall keep doing what I'm doing and just smile and nod at the doctor.
I think things will improve if I can establish a better routine for the afternoon nap and then put him to bed a bit later.
Thanks for all the advice, feel much better now
I like cuddling him at night when he's all sleepy, he's soooo cute all that snuffling

Sounds like you are doing a brilliant job ivor, keep it up, I always say, I make no apologies for loving and caring for my baby.

he's not manipulating you, I bet. He's probably just hungry. He will grow out of it, but just not yet, that's all. It worked well for me to do that. And the waking got later and later. I just treateed all wakes before 7am, as night wakes ie snuggling and quiet and dark.

Fair enough he's a paediatrician, but he's not a mother so he doesn't have to listen to your DS cry . Trust your own instincts, professionals don't have all the answers.

Nine

He's not manipulating you. He won't do that till he's MUCH older!

Nine

i think it is a mistake to try to do two things at once.

problem 1)he likes to feed at night (query whether through habit or genuine need

problem 2) he finds it hard to go to sleep on his own.

Cc - if you're a fan - is about solving problem 2. You'll get nowhere if he's hungry though (hence comment lower down that not a good idea to try it afyer such a long sleep).

I suggest you figure out problem 1 first. Ideas to try
a) up his daytime feeds/solids
b) night 1, log when he wakes up and requires food; call it base time. Try not to feed earlier, and aim to shunt base time forward by a little each night. If he wakes too early, try stringing him along with rocking/cuddles/soothers
c) bottle cooled boiled water instead of milk. Alternatively, start watering down the night feed to make it less and less worthwhile to get up for
d) wait for him to naturally mature = its only a problem if you're finding it a problem. none of the doctors business.

sigh the heartache that can be caused by a flippant remark from a health professional

Is he getting a couple of 1-2 hour naps a day? You could try reducing the amount of milk in his bottle at night gradually till there's so little that it's not worth his while waking up for it. Or wean him off the binky, whatever that is, during the day and see if he'll go back to sleep without it at night...
My dd2 is the same age and still wakes for a bfeed sometime between 2 and 6am. Have managed to get her napping well during the day and going back to sleep with minimal intervention if she wakes between her bedtime, 7.30 pm, and mine, midnight. Have decided to wait till i start her on solids next fortnight before attempting to get her to sleep through the night. No particulr reason, just putting it off really...Her sister slept from 9pm till midnight, then to 9am , from 3 mo!

He does go off to sleep really well on his own and always has an hour to 90 minutes nap in the morning. Having difficultie establishing the afternoon nap but I think that just needs some perserverance (sp?)
I'll try to move his routine back bit by bit so he goes down later and ignore what the doctor said

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Thank you all again you have been a great reasurance

My dd2 is 7 mths old, and often wakes in the night to eat. She is usually in bed at 7ish. Sometimes she sleeps through til 5:30, but not very often. Sometimes she wakes at around 2/3ish. Sometimes she wakes twice to eat anywhere between 11 and 1 and 3 and 5.
At 6 mths old, she was regularly eating twice in the night.
She eats and goes back to sleep. Does he go back to sleep after his bottle? If so, no worries. Sometimes dd2 is still awake after eating and takes some time to go back to sleep, but usually only grumbles a bit or "chats" very loudly before realising I'm not going to play with her, or even lift my head off the pillow and look at her. Then goes to sleep.
And your dr doesn't need to know about your bedtime routines, even your HV doesn't need to be told.
Do what you think you should cos you know your baby better than anyone else!!!

fwiw i wouldn't let the my lo cry over and above the usual grizzling they do. 2 - 4? Hmmm that is really early . My ds wakes throughout the night (6 months old) and has done the odd "let's wake and play" routine. I jsut stay with him, stare into space, ignore his cooing and squealing, bf him and put him in his cot again. After a couple of nights he generally loses interest and doesn't bother.
Agree wiht colditz, give him a late nap (if it is practical) and put him to bed later. I j=know it is a drag having a small baby up later in the eve's but it may help you get some rest! hth