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Using the MN name as endorsement - not on, is it?

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tiktok · 11/01/2010 18:48

I have just seen this www.telegraph.co.uk/health/6951227/How-the-Magic-Sleep-Fairy-cured-my-babys-insomnia---and-saved-my- sanity.html where the sleep person in question claims to have many Mumsnet clients....which may or may not be true. But using the name like this makes it sound like an edorsement of her methods.

Admission: her methods are questionable and her goals are questionable, too. She may have helped some parents - irrelevant, actually.

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differentID · 11/01/2010 19:31

I could be wrong, but does she strike anyone else as a bit fo a watered down GF?

StewieGriffinsMom · 11/01/2010 19:33

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BoysAreLikeDogs · 11/01/2010 19:34

farlin ell MrsJ she also watered down the formula

at 9 weeks (5 weeks corrected)

Isn't that downright dangerous???

elvislives · 11/01/2010 19:35

"After about 2 weeks of having just the one feed at night, I started to ?water-down? the milk by adding less scoops of formula. At this stage, the boys were 5weeks old, corrected age, and were usually waking around 4am for their feed...

That was when I decided, ?That?s it, water at night from now on!?

she decided?! What about the mother?!

LadyintheRadiator · 11/01/2010 19:40

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Honeypeckle · 11/01/2010 19:45

"I started to ?water-down? the milk by adding less scoops of formula"

WTF

Babieseverywhere · 11/01/2010 20:12

I can't find all this positive posts about this woman ?

I have leina's post and that is her one and only post on mumsnet

And 4 posts from Mishee (who seems to be genuine 118 posts on mumsnet)

But even Mishee didn't call her a flipping sleep fairy.

Where are all the Mumsnet supporters ?

mistlethrush · 11/01/2010 20:24

And what a load of crap about colic!!!! If your baby had/has colic for real there's no uncertainty about the fact - ds had a completely 'different' cry with colic - and when we cracked colic, we never heard it again. But co-sleeping wouldn't solve it - on a bad night we had to take turns - I went to bed at 8.30/9 leaving dh with screaming child - he'd wake me at 1/1.30 and I'd take over for the rest of the night. Bad nights the screaming started at 7pm and stopped at 4.30/5am.... We were lucky if we had the odd 5mins without screaming during that time.

SparrowFflamau · 11/01/2010 21:45

I agree about colic.

DD1 had colic - that hideous cry that nothing in the world would solve. We ended up at a chiropractor, and colic went, but it may have happened naturally. I remember driving in circles at 2 am as it was the only thing to soothe her.

With the second 2, they went to the chiro very early on (1 week old for DS) due to head turning/feeding issues, we had no colic, but again, no idea if that would have been the case even without the chiro.

mistlethrush · 11/01/2010 22:01

Cranial osteopathy cured ds!

mistlethrush · 11/01/2010 22:01

I thought I'd managed to kill that thread

tiktok · 12/01/2010 09:20

It is always difficult to 'prove' something has worked with colic (or unexplained, consistent crying) as it tends to improve of its own accord over a period of weeks or months.

Similarly, even very young babies will adapt to not being attended to in the night and will give up crying. Even at the expense of their physical and nutritional well-being....and emotional well-being, too. This is not a good thing, and someone earning a living out of telling mothers to do this is not a good thing, either.

This is not to say mothers' need for sleep and rest and respite should be ignored. It shouldn't.

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MrsJamin · 12/01/2010 09:30

I think MNHQ should get on to this - supposedly a Parent on MumsNet said "Sleep guru Alison Scott-Wright changed my life and rescued my sanity!...I will buy [the book] for all pregnant friends so they get it right from the start, unlike me!" but I can't find it anywhere on MN. Will email MNHQ now.

mistlethrush · 12/01/2010 09:35

Tiktok - I agree - that's why I say cranial osteopathy helped ds. He had colic, 1st 2 treatments he was clearly somewhat better. After 3rd treatment, colic just disappeared - no tailing off - it just went. When you're starting from a sufficiently bad level of problem, that sort of difference is really noticeable, and I couldn't put it down to him growing out of it or anything.

But I agree that the person writing the book shouldn't be publicising herself as having helped lots of mumsnetters unless she has proof of this.

morningpaper · 12/01/2010 09:41

That's AWFUL

that phrase has never appeared on Mumsnet even ONCE

Terrible!

AngryFromManchester · 12/01/2010 09:43

It is an open board, that means anyone can use it and anyone who posts on here can say they use it/advise people etc. It is the nature of a forum board. What on earth can they do?

AngryFromManchester · 12/01/2010 09:44

How do you know morningpaper? It could have been posted in chat

TheCrackFox · 12/01/2010 09:50

I think this is the thread that they have got the quote from

Apparently the "sleep guru" charges £300 a night. . So no qualifications at all and you can IMO come out with any shite that could well be dangerous.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 12/01/2010 09:56

Deciding that a 5-week old baby doesn't need feeding at night is utterly lunatic, and watering down the formula is downright dangerous.

morningpaper · 12/01/2010 09:57

True, it could have been posted in chat, but sleep threads are pretty much always in SLEEP

AitchTwoOhOneOh · 12/01/2010 10:02

that is irritating.

HelenMumsnet · 12/01/2010 16:04

Hello.

TheCrackFox is right - it was Mishee's post on the thread she's linked to that's been quoted (accurately) on the 'Sleep Fairy's' book jacket.

But, after a quick trawl through the Talk boards, we think Judith Woods at the Telegraph might have been overstating things just a leetle to talk about this person's 'legion of grateful Mumsnet clients'.

We'll drop Judith a mail

lisajok · 09/08/2010 10:28

Not many MrsJamin if you read through! I met her at a baby show and believe me she is even more scarey in real life ! She got a SIDS charity worker in a flap as she tells mums to put babies on there tummies to sleep!!!!Shock.oohhh.Babies !

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