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Help tech!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm NOT Jeremy Vile and yet somehow...............

158 replies

JeremyVile · 05/09/2007 20:58

I've ended up posting as Jeremy and I can see the threads Jeremy is watching!

It's me............ MarsLady..... I want my sign in back!

OP posts:
MarsLady · 05/09/2007 22:38

yes am with AOL. Never had the Freaky Friday experience before though!

mears · 05/09/2007 22:40

My DH has a website that has problems due to AOL assignment of IP adresses. 2 people can have the same address

JeremyViIe · 05/09/2007 22:40

AOL is evil

MarsLady · 05/09/2007 22:41

Weird that it should happen now though (fun... but weird)

SlightlyMadSCAREYthing · 05/09/2007 22:45

I am on AOL too.....is it not the case that IP actually referrs to a 'group' of computers at any one time?

Maybe if I log off AOL a few times and log back on I will get the infamous IP.....

....but that won't actually help as I don't know the password do I?

uberalice · 05/09/2007 22:45

I'd like to Be John Malkovitch for the evening. Could tech arrange that please? Thanks

Tech · 06/09/2007 14:00

We think we've got to the bottom of this. AOL uses a system of proxy servers to serve pages. These are useful devices that "cache" pages and lighten the load on the internet. It means for example that if 10 people ask for www.mumsnet.com, AOL asks us for it once and then gives it to the 10 people.

The problem is our talk pages are in a sense "private" - they may have your login details in them, they might be your watched threads etc, and we don't want AOL to cache them and share them about the place. So we set a "don't cache" header in our responses when AOL requests a page.

The way we've always done this in the past is to set a header to say effectively "this page is always out of date - always ask for a new one, don't cache it". Caches will just pass the response page back and never store it.

We think what happened in this case is that the same AOL proxy server saw two requests for the same page at the same time (from JV and ML), but just requested one response and gave it to both people. As the response included JV's "token" that said she'd logged in, both people were from then on effectively logged in as JV. In one sense it didn't strictly "cache" the page so was obeying the letter of the instruction, but it did do something unexpected by giving a "volatile" page to two people. I've never seen that happen before.

In any case, to prevent it happening again, we've added an extra header to the pages. This says "Cache-control: private" - which means "never store this page in any shared cache whatsoever". We hope that will stop AOL from ever giving the same response to two people even if they ask for the same page at exactly the same time.

MegaLegs · 06/09/2007 14:07

mmm, yes that's just what I thought had happened.

MarsLady · 06/09/2007 14:11

But I had such fun as JeremyVile.

TemporarilyJV · 06/09/2007 14:14

Very wise Tech, very wise.

So its possible that someone else got given my token/biscuit thing?

I dont understand how else my profile could have been altered as ML says she didn't go into it. (I emailed about this last night).

TemporarilyJV · 06/09/2007 14:28

Can you see when it was done/by who?

SleeplessInTheStaceym11House · 06/09/2007 14:50

ok just read thread and was in hyseterics, until i say your profile has been altered! how ! hopfully it gets sorted!

WendyWeber · 06/09/2007 14:51

Incidentally - somebodyout there has got the name JeremyViIe - which appears in headings as JeremyVile...

(not owning up to how I know that but I wonder who it is...hmmm?)

WendyWeber · 06/09/2007 14:53

Oh - no it doesn't - it used to work like that but I've just spotted JeremyViIe further down the thread.

Tech, you are a spoilsport!

TemporarilyJV · 06/09/2007 14:54

LOL!

I wonder, who could it be?........

TemporarilyJV · 06/09/2007 15:50

Trying not to pester you too much but any ideas re another person (other than Marsy) having got into my registration last night too?

JeremyVi1e · 06/09/2007 15:57
Smile
TemporarilyJV · 06/09/2007 16:02

How bizarre - I dont even know who you are but you are more JeremyVile than I am now. (I would use the {sad} emoticon, but I hate it - so I wont).

VinePatrol · 06/09/2007 16:05

Awww. I could never be you.

I'll switch back to VinePatrol to make you feel better

TemporarilyJV · 06/09/2007 16:08

Winestein? Is that you?

Tech · 06/09/2007 16:29

Hi JV, I don't seem to have an email from you. Could you forward it to [email protected].

Thanks

winestein · 06/09/2007 16:37

Who? ME?

WelshBoris · 06/09/2007 16:40

Did you check to see if she'd name changed?

First thing I would have done

marthamoo · 06/09/2007 16:42

I remember - years ago - when practically everyone had their RL surname as their password and we all had a merry old time posting rude messages as other people (those of us who knew each other's RL surnames, that is).

Til we got Told Off In A Cross Voice and had to stop.

TemporarilyJV · 06/09/2007 16:47

Have emailed you Tech.

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