Mods discussing moderation with previously banned poster about getting current posters banned

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@mumsnethq

I understand policy is not to discuss the banning of individual posters.

However a PBP is claiming they have been in discussion with two mods for two weeks which has led to the banning of a longstanding poster.

mobile.twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1219748635530944518

Can you confirm if it is policy to enter into discussion with banned posters about the moderation of other people's posts?

Joss Prior is a fantasist. But I would like a clear answer from MNHQ as well. It’s not a good look.

Preferably from @HebeMNHQ as she seems to be the one that has spoken most to Josh

If Joss Prior is lying MN need to say so.

I really hope that’s not true - how does a PFP have that sort of power?!

Hi all. we're happy to confirm that we certainly don't discuss moderation decisions with anyone outside Mumsnet - especially not previously banned posters.

Thanks for that.

So JP is a liar? Who'd have thunk?

Hi Michael

I'm deeply relieved to see your post, since I came here to ask urgently if HQ are interacting with the obviously very unwell individual claiming so all over Twitter, which would equally obviously be an extremely dodgy use of membership information and potentially a breach of the GDP. Not to mention the need for members to be made clearly aware by MN that an offline group whose ethics and morals can be summarised by the screenshotted tweets on MN this morning, is tracking members on this site and organising campaigns in which moderators are used as tools and interacted with as part of attacking selected members. Because many members may feel this is a highly threatening situation they want absolutely no part of.

Can I ask please what HQ plan to do about the allegations of this behaviour being made by this individual? And to ensure that their moderation team and members are not part of some rather disturbing personal game being played by this individual? And that membership are fully aware of how HQ may use their information on members who trust MN and post here, and whether HQ will talk about them with anyone except other moderators?

This seems really rather serious, I hope I'm misunderstanding the situation.

I'd also like to ask if MNHQ would consider changing the report rule so non-members can't abuse it as they currently are?

Given that the individual in question has an entire drawer's worth of socks my question is whether or not MNHQ would necessarily know that they were speaking to that person.

I would absolutely be in support of that, tea

I'm probably being naive but MNHQ if you've been able to tell us that are you able to release a short, polite but clear statement to the public to state this? When someone is clearly on the wind up and courting their audience in the process I think they should be called out on it.

So that’s libel then. is Hebe or MN going to pursue these extremely damaging claims legally?

Indeed. Mumsnet Towers does have a Twitter account after all.

I don’t get this? What’s the situation?

Placemarking

I'd also like to ask if MNHQ would consider changing the report rule so non-members can't abuse it as they currently are?

They may well have an account (or have a friend with one, or multiple socks - or all of the above), that they use to report, without posting.

But I thought vexatious reporting was on the list of offences so how is this even happening?

This is serious and I do hope to see a robust response from MNHQ, although I'm afraid that in reality it will be the usual 'pat on the head' type response.

@Sundancer77 an allegation has been made by a repeatedly banned MN troll that they have been discussing registered MN users, (including Langcleg- who was banned yesterday) with two MNHQ moderators, one of which was apparently Hebe.

Joss named a Mumsnet moderator. Are @MNHQ going to investigate what Joss said or let it stand?

They really need to make a public statement on this. That’s a really damaging allegation. They can’t just play the ostrich on this one.

So Joss Prior did not have discussions with two moderators, one named, about 'toxic names' on FWR ?

Why can't a clear denial of this claim be made ?

I don't believe it did happen. I do think it would be good for MNHQ to make a statement in support of their and their moderators' integrity, which is being besmirched by JP's allegation.

Why was langcleg banned please?

I agree with that too tea

Will Mumsnet please review those 'members' who have reported LangCleg's posts to ensure that none are PBP or part of a group 'gaming' the FWR rules to target erudite women concerned for Safeguarding children & protecting Women's Rights?