Hi all - just going to quickly clarify some points:
Seems to me that it would be essential to let posters know when they've had a post deleted for this to be effective
Yes - we'll mail posters when we delete one of their posts.
Sometimes people have posts deleted for quoting another deleted post. Will there be a mechanism for ensuring posts like that don't get counted in the three strikes tally?
Yes
Overall is this going to be the only area of the boards where we have a three strikes system?
We haven't had to formalise this elsewhere, but in practice, three deletions would usually lead to a suspension elsewhere on site.
Could you look at including TRA in your list
We don't think this as a slur per se - but as ever we'll keep an eye on context and tone.
Surely I'm allowed to say or criticise someone for their actions or express a negative view on them even if they happen to be trans?
Of course, yes.
Please can I also ask you consider deleting posts that associate transgender people with autogynephila (AGP) as this crops up quite a lot.
This is something we'd look at on a case by case basis, though we'll definitely delete posts which generalise.
Will I be deleted for saying 'male women' or 'male transperson' or 'male person'? Or by simply including them as part of the male population?
We'll continue to make decisions by taking tone and context into account. We'd be unlikely to delete if it's said in the context of a civil discussion of biology. If it's said with the apparent intention of belittling an individual, or if it's used repetitively and aggressively, we'd probably delete it on the basis that it undermines civil debate.
Can we say TIM to each other in conversation but not to a male who is transgender?
We're likely to delete this term however it's used. 'Trans-identified' seems pretty goady - people generally don't identify as trans but as the opposite sex. As someone said up thread, one person can't really tell another how they identify, even if they disagree with the logic.
So surely we can say 'X, who has a penis'
In most contexts, the discussion of an individuals' genitals is likely to be deleted.
What about, for example, Ian Huntley - is it ok to say he is a man and call him 'he'.
We think we've allowed for flexibility and context by saying 'it's likely' to be deleted, rather than 'it will be deleted'.
Thanks all.