Boys, Girls or Unisex?

[caseytaco]

We were recently gifted these baby grows and me and my partner couldn't decide whether they were meant for boys, girls or both... would like to hear everyone's thoughts

But OP, if you only dress him in "boys" clothing and give him "boys" toys how will he be able to ask for pink clothes/toys if he's being raised as "you're a boy so you're getting blue"

Do you realise they are only in them for 25 seocnds before you have to change them, the amount of babygrows far out weighs what's on them.

No one is saying FORCE girl stuff Inn him ut the fact you think dolls are for girls abd cars are for boys says it all.

He'll pick up the subtle clues that he shouldn't ask for a dolly or a pink toy for Christmas because you clearly see them as for girls. Unless he's rebellious in his teens etc he will take in your beliefs and them project them back out.

DS has a dolly and a pram and a truck and marvel superheroes and Powerpuff girls. Unless something is said at nursery he has no idea what toys you think are for girls and boys. My nephew in contrast would not be allowed Skye from PP socks because they're pink and I was barred from buying v I'm a doll because he's a boy. I know which one will grow up with a healthier idea that he can be whomever he wants, wear what he wants and do what he wants.

This is where it all starts. Gender stereotyping is damaging. For everyone. It causes all sorts of mental health problems. People should be allowed to just be people.

I think by dressing your boy in 'boy' clothes you are signalling your willingness to accept and promote gender stereotyping. Your friends, family and children will take their cue from this. My son had a baby doll to dress, wash, feed, etc. He also had trucks and dinosaurs. Clothes and toys are not gendered. How we label them is.

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Damn, opened MN and it magically transported me back to the 50s.

not going to buy everything pink because that not right

what exactly is wrong about buying something in a particular colour for a baby or child?

Come on, you clearly have a strong view on this but seem unwilling to analyse it. What exactly makes pink wrong for a boy but right for a girl? You know lots of men wear pink shirts in the City - is that wrong?

I'd say they are for girls. Blue and white striped with peach colour edging and the other looks white and peach.

You can often tell by how the buttons are handed. Girl ones are female handed while the he unisex and boys ones are usually male handed (look at your own button down shorts for comparison).

Traditionally boys were dressed in pink as it’s a stronger colour. However there are no boy or girl clothes, just clothes and it’s sex not gender

yes - have a look at the Disney film of Peter Pan (made in 1953) - Michael is in a pink babygrow.

They’re girls clothes. Most people in the real world would agree that they’re girls clothes. On Mumsnet they’re unisex because the baby won’t care/ it won’t make him gay/ get with the times OP.

You can often tell by how the buttons are handed. Girl ones are female handed while the he unisex and boys ones are usually male handed (look at your own button down shorts for comparison).

One of the most ridiculous conventions ever. If it arose from the idea that men could do up their own buttons but ladies should have theirs done by a maid, then all clothes for very small children should be 'female handed'

@RiverTam this is nothing about my sons sexuality at all, it's just my preference. Yes, I do agree with gender stereo types and also unisex. Because the large majority of people want to dress to there gender. Have you completely forgotten what it was like as a kid, all the boys would call pink "yucky" and wouldn't want to be seen dead in it. It's not my fault the world is like this blame society. Though as males get older they normally become less sensitive to it and wear more pink things. Growing up is a tough time for kids we don't need to make it worse by confusing them. If my son wants something he can have them. You dress your child in what you want and I'll do the same, it doesn't make either of us a better mother we are just doing what we do for are children.

I don't think the vast majority do dress to there gender, I think most people see an item of clothing they like.. and they buy it.
I wouldn't look at a blue shirt I liked and think "no, blue is for men, I can't wear that", likewise if there was an item of clothing in the mens section that I liked, I wouldn't think twice about buying it.

As far as "blame society", we are society, you are society, if you insist on strictly enforcing gender roles then you are just reinforcing those outdated societal views.

how old is your son?

How many colours does he know?

the large majority of people want to dress to there gender

I'd disagree with this.

I think they are intended for girls but they will get sicked or pooed on whether they are boys girls or unisex - if you’re bothered then just use them for night time.

I'm a cheapskate with an older girl and a toddler boy.

He wears all her hand me downs because I am not chucking out perfectly nice clothes because of genderwang. He gets mistaken for a girl every now and then but neither he nor I care.

all the boys would call pink "yucky" and wouldn't want to be seen dead in it.
OK, think this through OP. WHY did they do this? Do their genitals mean that their brain doesn't like pink or is it in fact the effect of being raised by parents who promote boy blue lorry and girl pink dolly?
And on top tell boys that girl stuff is sissy and boys stuff is cool

It's not my fault the world is like this blame society are you not a part of society?? Be the change you want to see in the world.

Once upon a time domestic violent was normal. It was just how society was. Women didn't vote or work. It was how society was. You don't have to actually conform

A) I haven't mentioned your son's sexuality at all
B) as I've now said several times, I'm talking about babies of your son's age.

Ah so you claim that you'll allow him to choose what he wants when he is able to but you are choosing to conform him to a societal idea of gender whilst he can't choose - I think that says a lot more about your own gender conforming ideas than it does societies... if you really would let him choose you'd be rejecting gender stereotypes in relation to your child.

You are society you absolute melon.

I have a toddler boy, and I also want him to be free to choose when he is old enough, if he follows stereotypes or not. I don't see how a boy can believe it is ok for them to wear feminine clothes if they have none in their wardrobe at all. Consequently, my son has a wardrobe that covers all styles, including pink, floral, dresses, leggings, cardigans and tights. He also has long hair, which I manage with clips and ponytails. Contrary to what others seem to be implying, this certainly isn't the norm and consequently my son is mistaken for a girl always, but unlike you I don't think this will do him any harm.

Why did you start this thread op?

Because it comes across it was just to start an argument. You've been gifted them and decided they're fine for your baby to wear several time already, so why do you need our opinions on on whether your baby boy should actually be wearing them?

Really baffled to be honest.

Also agree with this:
@@SleepingStandingUp 'Be the change you want to see in the world.'

You are society you absolute melon.

It made me laugh too when OP wrote that.