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Issue with oil particulate in diesel cars. Anyone else have this problem?

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missmillimentscardigan · 01/06/2018 14:40

Firstly, apologies in advance for my lack of knowledge about cars. We bought a new diesel Discovery Sport in November last year, and my DH was a bit nervous about potential issues with the oil particulate not being able to clear itself unless the car was driven for long distances at high speeds very regularly. However, he was reassured that this wouldn't be an issue if we were taking the car out for at least one longer, faster drive at the weekend, which we do.
We both live very close to where we work so the car is mostly used during the week for the school run - a couple of miles a day on weekdays, and then we tend to use it more at the weekend, when it gets a longer run.
DH has just come back from the Land Rover garage after a service light came on the car, and he's had to have the oil filter changed, as it's not getting enough opportunity to clear itself. Land Rover tried to charge him £200 but he said that was completely unreasonable, so they reluctantly agreed not to charge him.
He asked for specific guidance about how much the car needs driving to clear the particulate and was told it needs be to driven at 50mph for at least 20 mins twice a week. The 50mph needs to be constant for the 20minutes, otherwise the cleaning process is interrupted and won't continue.
This is pretty challenging for us; even on a motorway it's not always easy to drive at 50mph or over for 20 mins. The salesperson told DH that a lot of customers were having this problem with diesel cars. Has anyone else had this problem, and how did you overcome it? I really don't want to change the car, as we've only had it six months and I really like it. Thanks

OP posts:
missdaphnemoon · 04/10/2020 22:30

[quote missdaphnemoon]Regarding diesel dilution and DPF blockages on Discovery Sport, Range Rover Evoque and Jaguar E-Pace 2016-onwards, a technical description of the root causes is available as a downloadable pdf. Expands the information from JLR's leaked documents and corrects some untruths, such as "stopping the car during a regen causes dilution". Essential reading if you think you may have been mis-sold one of these cars - i.e. it was "not as described" - or are considering rejection because the car is "not of satisfactory quality" within the meaning of the Consumer Rights At 2015.

www.dropbox.com/s/d0bcrd7sve4l598/D8_Dilution_Explained.pdf?dl=1[/quote]
I'm just giving this a refresh as more cars reach the end of their initial lease and find their way into the used car market. It affects these nameplates:

Land Rover Discovery Sport 2.0L diesels 2016-on
Range Rover Evoque 2.0L diesels 2016-on
Jaguar E-Pace 2.0L 2017-on

Unless you drive long distances at high speed these vehicles are likely to experience DPF problems causing a) increased servicing demands, and b) DPF clogging, possibly leading to expensive failure. It transpires that in town driving the DPF could need to "self-clean" every 100-120 miles, a process that JLR now admits takes 40 minutes (doubling its original statements) driving at 40-70 mph (26 miles or more).

Original JLR disclosure - www.discosportforums.co.uk/download/file.php?id=5997
Updated Guide - www.dropbox.com/s/d0bcrd7sve4l598/D8_Dilution_Explained.pdf?dl=1
USA Class Action (alleges that JLR knew about the fault and failed to notify owners before sale) - www.classaction.org/media/shaaya-v-jaguar-land-rover-north-america-llc.pdf

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